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  1. Could Jesus be referring to a pyramid

    Zechariah 4 : 7 thru 9 Is most definitely NOT referring to a pyramid at all. Zerubbabel was one of the Jewish captives that returned to Judah after the Babylonian exile and he was governor of Judah. He immediately began work on the rebuilding of the temple. But as construction began, the Jews than were building ran into opposition, hindrance, and discouragement from the surrounding neighbors. The passages here are speaking symbolically as an assurance that the temple which had been started, would indeed be finished and the final stone put into place, in spite of the opposition because the rebuilding of the temple had God's blessing upon it. This passage is speaking of the temple in Judah. A cornerstone is the first stone and the most important stone put into place on the foundation of which all the other stones are matched to it and are built upon it. Cornerstones are carefully inspected, and if it is flawed in any way, all the other stones after it will be off and the building will fall. Such flawed cornerstones were rejected by builders. The capstone or top stone is the last stone put in place, and no other stones are needed. The Psalms 118: 22 passage is symbolically speaking of Jesus as the cornerstone in which the Jewish leaders rejected. The Jewish leaders were symbolically referred to as the builder's. The other biblical passages that speak of Jesus as the stone that makes men stumble; is spoken of as a figurative expression of spiritual downfall. To those who reject him, he is a stumbling stone in the way that they fall over. And a crushing stone of judgment to the disbelieving.
  2. Sabbath keepers may pride themselves in not going to their paying jobs, or doing their daily or weekly chores, on the weekend or whatever day they want to declare is a sabbath. Do not even unbelievers do this much? Just sitting in a chair or laying in bed all day or avoiding certain physical activities and doing nothing on a set day from sundown to sundown does not change a person's life. It gives the appearance of holiness, but only from the outside. It does not change the inside of a person's heart. And I can assure you, that no one spends from sundown to sundown immersed in their bible or prayer that whole time for a person has to take time out of that to tend to the necessary daily needs for themselves and family. Nor is a person able to fully sit and do nothing for a full 24 hours. And besides that, sabbath keepers can find loopholes to give themselves an excuse to do whatever they want so long as it gives the appearance of following the sabbath. Your quick to point to the gospels for proof, but the meaning has become distorted by not reading further scripture that explains that the sabbath in the old covenant is a ceremonial law, which the epistles explain became obsolete when Jesus died on the cross, canceling the old covenant in favor of a new one which is far superior. Demanding that others practice the letter of the law violates other scriptures which tell us that none of us when it comes to the ceremonial laws has the right to dictate to or judge another person. If you want to set aside a special day, then do it for yourself.
  3. Cobalt mentioned but didn't ask you about what sacrifices were. He doesn't need you to go look it up and find out; he already knows the answer. That is not what he is asking you. What he is asking is; what do you ( Bro. Tan ) do physically, yourself in that 24 hour period that you call Sabbath. The laws show us that we are sinful and in need of a savior because we can't keep those laws, nor can we save ourselves. Following a set of external conformity does not make us acceptable to God. External conformity is the action of trying to cleanse ourselves of unrighteousness, by our own power through following a set of external rules. When we as humans do this, we struggle and labor, to no avail, because we can't save ourselves from sin and death. The battle was won for us when Jesus died on the cross. When we believe that Jesus is the “I AM” and that he paid the cost for us on the cross we are declared righteous in the sight of God. John 8 :24 That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." When we believe, we enter his rest. A person is still trying to become righteous, by following the old covenant of external do's and don'ts, that could never save us. That is why God canceled the old one created a new covenant that is far superior to the old one. For if we were able to follow those old laws, there would have been no need for Jesus to die on the cross. In Acts Peter got up to speak in the meeting of apostles and elders in Jerusalem. He was certainly addressing the concern about Jewish laws that some people in those days were declaring was necessary for salvation. Peter corrected them. Acts 15 : 10-11 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved When Peter had finished, James spoke up Acts 15 : 19-20 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. Acts 15 : 28-29 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell. Notice that nothing more is required of the believers. So the question is, why are you trying to put a yoke on the necks of others that you aren't even willing to explain how you, yourself follow it. Or even willing to explain how you think it should be followed. Just saying it is done on day X is not an explanation.
  4. What Is Repentance?

    The parable of the pharisee and the tax collector in Luke; 18 I think is an excellent example of what true repentance looks like and what self righteousness looks like. True repentance happens when a person recognizes that there is sin in their heart and he/she is sad about it and has the desire to be done with sin. In other words the person's mind and attitude changed towards the sin in their heart so that the person sincerely desired to NOT commit them anymore. There is also a sincere desire to turn to God and recognize that he/she needed God's mercy.
  5. In old the old testament, God's spirit was not given to everybody. Only to those God had chosen to minister to the people of Israel and Judah. God spoke through prophets to the people. But after Jesus rose from the dead, he sent the holy spirit to all. Not only does the holy spirit guide and comfort each of us, but also emboldens us with ability to share the gospel with others and take it to every nation, language, tribe and tongue to the ends of the earth. The holy spirit comes upon all, the moment they believe and confess that Jesus is Lord and Savior Just like the people at Pentecost and centurion and his companions that Peter witnessed to. (Acts chapter 2 and chapter 10 ). Peter quoted Joel and indicated that . . .the latter days had begun in his life time for the holy spirit had been given to both Jew and gentile alike in his lifetime and the holy spirit has been poured out on all who believe since then. The holy spirit comes and resides in our hearts the moment we believe and are born again. No need to wait for the catastrophic events of tribulation. Acts 2 : 1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. Acts 10 : 44, 45 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. John 14 : 16 thru 18 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will bec in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. John 14 : 25,26 “All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
  6. Deception

    The bible doesn't say where the antichrist will come from or who that will be. It only gives a description of his attitude and actions. So to say he will arise from here or there, is purely speculation. 2 Thessalonians 2 : 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. The time when certain things were not done in church or church members were told they couldn't do. A lot of it is legalism and that isn't anything new for legalism occurred in bible times. Declaring certain activities sinful, when the bible shows they are not. Clapping of hands in church for example. Which like singing and dancing, are a form of joyful worship from the heart. Psalms 47 : 1 Clap your hands, all you nations; shout to God with cries of joy This is a general statement, not intended to be aimed at anyone specifically. There is such a thing as being too holy. It is an attitude of some people that others are not taking bible and God as serious as they are. They demand that others conform to their view of what is righteous or not. This is self righteousness at its core. A holy than thou, attitude. I don't disagree that candy wrappers are noisy. But things like that are not huge issue; because there are far more activities that people are very complacent about that lurk in the heart, such as . . . unclean thoughts, unkind thoughts about someone. Anger, resentment, jealousy, covetousness, people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God. These things I've above listed is far more sinful and destructive than someone opening a candy wrapper , chewing gum or other minor activities. A paraphrase of Romans 2 : 1 “Well,” you may be saying, “what terrible people you have been talking about!” But wait a minute! You are just as bad. When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are talking about yourselves, for you do these very same things. What is deceptive about the things I've listed above is that people in general, can not see these things in themselves, so they feel all is well. But there are things even more deceptive and destructive that have been creeping into mainstream Christianity is heresy, false doctrine, new age ideas and teachings all with a straight face, and without the slightest fear. The sign of end times . . . 2 Timothy 3 : 1 – 4 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— The person that is truly a Christian does not need to concern himself with who the antichrist is, and besides that, he will not be revealed and recognized until the appointed time. What we should be focused on is to see that we ourselves are daily improving and growing in Christ. That we love him more and more with.
  7. The folks that have mentioned the pic and the misquoted passage; did NOT mention it because they were against you having a gun or using a gun for self defense. When a person is speaking. How he or she perceives the message being spoken isn't as important as how the message is being conveyed by the hearer. It is how the hearer interprets the message spoken that is critical. What sort of message does it say to an unbeliever that is already struggling with trying to understand who Jesus is and why we are to believe the bible. If we as Christians don't take the bible and the gospel message seriously and respectfully, how can we expect an atheist to except it? Luke 22 : 36 But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Both a sword and a gun are weapons and they have their place. Is it not possible to convey this without misquoting scripture? As we read the gospels, a weapon welding king was exactly what the people in bible times were expecting that would through a physical weapon and means free them from a foreign government. And the pic to an unbeliever's mind reinforces this idea instead of what the bible says about being set free from sin's control over us. It is possible to be lighthearted without being disrespectful of the scriptures and the gospel message.
  8. No matter who is speaking, the listener always has two choices.. one is to believe what is said, and the other is doubt. There isn't really any inbetween. If there is any question in a person's mind about something; that is doubt. No matter how minor. A person that truly believes that what the other person said is true; there is no doubt in their mind, at all. None. Pregnancy, I think is a good analogy of this. Either a woman is pregnant, or she is not. No such thing as slightly pregnant. We know the gospel is true; because first, God's has testified that this is so through his written word. He tells us that he sent his son, to die on the cross to atone for our sins. Jesus also testified that he is the way, the truth, and the life. And the holy spirit also testifies to this in our hearts. Just as we can taste good food, so can our hearts and minds taste truth when we hear it. The person that believes, has a changed attitude towards sin and how God feels about.
  9. Nothing wrong with owning a gun or needing to defend self, and family. While I get the verse is a paraphrased thought and not from an actual bible. I agree, it in its own way gives the impression that whoever thought it up is showing dis-respectfulness in regards to the gospel especially coming from a Christian. And the pic, definitely does not portray Jesus as our savior.
  10. Two questions

    Because of Adam's sin, all humans thereafter have been born with a sin nature. Meaning that we have a propensity to sin. There is no one on this earth that has not sinned. All have sinned. We are cut off from God. A sinful human is eternally separated from God. Mankind can not atone for himself/herself because sin and death stands in the way. Our sins are very grievous. Jesus saw that we were weak, sinful and lost and desperately in need of someone to atone for us. But the only way for that to happen was for God to do that himself for us. Jesus himself is sinless making him the perfect sacrifice to pay the penalty of death. Jesus when he was on earth was fully God and fully man who represented humanity. God promised that he would provide a way back to him. Freeing us from the sinful nature that carried the death penalty. He did this so that we could spend our eternity with him. No he didn't have to, but because he loves us; he was willing to die in our place. Agreed sojo, Jesus, death on the cross was victory over sin and death. Not only did he die on the cross, but he rose again.
  11. What does this verse really mean?

    A person performing miracles or using Christian vocabulary isn't a proof that one is true Christian. People can say Lord and not really mean it. That is lip service. People can attend church and read a bible, and still not be a true Christian. Just doing these things without putting true faith in Jesus' life, and death on the cross and truly trusting him to save them. makes them mere rituals. Often people think that if they attend church every Sunday, sing Christian songs and read the bible... all is well. There are people that like the religious leaders of bible times, just follow a set of rituals thinking their rituals or good works is all they need. That is self righteousness. They are righteous in their own eyes. The passage calls this wrong because these things rely on mans ability to get into heaven. Relying on man's own abilities is sinful. For God's word says we can't save ourselves from sin and death. We begin to truly know him when we fully and truly believe in who Jesus is and his work on the cross for us. Admitting that we are sinful and helpless to save ourselves and in need of a savior. And fellowshipping with him. This is the only way to get right with God. It is Gods will that we call on the name of Jesus Christ to save us from sin and death John 6 :29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
  12. YOUTUBE, the anti-Christ

    I am not familiar with youtube t.v but there is still a lot of good things to watch or read online, not every site, or video is bad. The same with t.v there is still good programming available. All one needs to do is make use of the t.v guide to find programs one is interested in that they feel is appropriate for viewing. That is why there is a remote, don't like something..change the channel or turn the t.v / computer off. The thing about youtube clips here on worthy is that some of the side suggestions are inappropriate for our young readers that visit as well as not really being appropriate on a Christian board.
  13. Third Kingdom ("Lying Wonders")

    The person that teaches or prophecies, has enormous amount of responsibility and accountability to get it right and not just utter nonsense. Those who utter nonsense in order to fool or subvert others away from hearing the gospel or prevent them from believing in the truth are putting themselves in a very bad situation. That person so to speak is playing with fire. Bar-Jesus is NOT God's son, Bar-Jesus was a man on the island of Salamis that was a sorcerer and a false prophet; he was also called Elymas . And this person did not want the proconsul to hear the gospel that Paul was preaching. Any time someone just tosses out a few lines of scripture and mixes it with nonsense in the hopes of making it sound like fact is subverting others from hearing the truth. All prophecy in the bible points to God's son and the gospel. The bible is not some fantasy novel that we read for entertainment. It is there to explain what sin is, and why we are in need of a savior and how to get right with God. The word gospel means “good news”. There is forgiveness of sin, and redemption available from God to all who will except it. Everyone has the ability to except the gospel or reject it. It is a free gift that is being offered. It is up to each individual to decide upon. The book of revelation is a final warning and reminder of God's judgment on sin. Those who except God's offer of forgiveness and salvation are guaranteed eternal life. Those who reject it, have nothing to look forward to but the awful condemnation. All have sinned, there is no one on this earth that has not sinned. And God's law says that death is the payment for sin for all. But since we aren't able to save ourselves. In other words; get rid of the sin and guilt that goes with sin. No matter how we try, we can NEVER cleanse ourselves of this by our own strength and power. And for this reason, God himself took on the payment of sin; by being born as a jew, born of a woman, died on the cross a horrible death to atone for all of mankind and then rose again. He paid the cost. All that is required of us, is to believe this and turn from a sinful life. Be reconciled back to God. No one can force you to except this, and God will not force you.
  14. Intellectual faith? HELP

    Faith is simply believing. It is hearing what God has said and believing and trusting him. It isn't rocket science. A person either does or does not believe the gospel ( good news ) Little children believe and trust their parents, when parents tell them things because they know that without question a loving mommy and daddy will keep them safe. They never have to wonder. That is what it means to have child like faith. God has used something the world considers foolish because it doesn't agree with their own philosophies and ideals. God has chosen faith (believing what he says ) as the way to him so that none of us could ever brag in his presence that we got to heaven by our own strength and ideas no matter how brilliant those ideas may be. When we believe the gospel with sincerity we are assured eternal life, because God's word says that all who come to him through his son, is promised eternal life. He paid the entire cost. The finished work on the cross. He is the perfect and complete sacrifice. Being saved isn't a feeling; it is the knowledge that he has paid the cost for you. God is faithful so we never have to wonder. 1 John 5: 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. When we sincerely believe the gospel in our hearts, the holy spirit assures us with his presence in us. He reminds us of our assurance that we indeed have eternal life. God will never lie to us. We have assurance through a changed life. When we were unbelieving, we didn't care if we were doing the wrong thing. Sinful actions didn't bother us; But after faith, we begin to care more and more about what God thinks of sin and how we might please him instead of pleasing ourselves. Blaming unbelief on being intellectual is a cop out; an excuse to continue in certain sins that people want to hold onto. God is dealing with man's sins and working on restoring us to himself. That is what the whole bible is about. But if we are set on holding onto any sin, we can not feel at ease on whether we have eternal life because it keeps us from fellowshipping with God. As we fellowship with him, his presence in our changed hearts and minds, assures us we have eternal life. When we come to the cross we must be willing to give up ALL sins, not just some.
  15. Am I bound for hell?

    No one is forcing you to believe the gospel message, and neither is God. Whether to believe or not is entirely up to you. The choice is yours, and yours alone. The gospel message is very short and simple. The bible tells us that for the cost of sin, is death. When Adam sinned, God told him that if he did, he would surely die. Death is the payment for sin for all mankind. All mankind has sinned, there is no one on this earth that has not sinned. Sin separates us from God. This is what the new testament is all about The cross is offensive for these reasons, It requires us to believe that God has provided a way to escape the death penalty through simply believing that Jesus paid the debt for us with his shed blood on the cross in our place. He paid the cost for us, because we can't pay that cost ourselves. It requires us to turn from any and all sins. That is...to change your mind and attitude towards sin in your own life (repentance) and turn to God (fellowship). That we are in need of a savior. It requires us to put complete trust in God, and allow him to guide us through life. God has chosen faith in his son as the means of the way to him. We can't get to him any other way, no matter how brilliant the idea is. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except through his son. The word gospel means “good news”. There is peace and forgiveness from God; available to all who will except it. This is a testimony from God himself and the Holy Spirit on how we get right with God. When a person does not believe the gospel message, they are rejecting God and have nothing to look forward to but the awful condemnation and judgment because of the unbelief. But the person that DOES believe what God has said is the way to him, is guaranteed eternal life. It is Christ who atones for us.
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