Thornbird Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 204 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/05/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 hours ago, missmuffet said: We are to move on when our truth of the Gospel and what is literally printed in the Holy Bible is not welcome. We don't argue. Those who have seen the truth and their minds and eyes have digested it are responsible. Jesus taught using parables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornbird Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 204 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/05/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2022 “All these things spoke Jesus unto the multitude in PARABLES; and without a parable spoke He not unto them.” Matt 13:34 “But without a PARABLE spoke He not unto them…” Mark 4:34 “This PARABLE spoke Jesus unto them; but they understood not what things they were which He spoke unto them.” John 10:6 “And when He was alone, they that were about Him with the twelve asked of Him the parable. And He said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God, but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables." “That seeing they may see, and not perceived: and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted and their sins should be forgiven them. And He said unto them, Know ye not this parable? And how then will you know all parables?” Mark 4:10-13 “And the disciples came, and said unto Him, Why do you speak unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto YOU to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but unto them it is NOT given.” Matthew 13:10-11 Not everyone understood Jesus message. Because they weren't meant to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Thornbird said: Jesus taught using parables. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, teddyv said: For example? This is kind of a vague charge to make (i.e. link to a thread) What do you mean by "the true literal Word of God"? Is that equivalent to the gospel? The actual words that you read. Don't make up your own meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.52 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, debrakay said: I think the part of this scripture that disturbs me more is the part about the "elect" being deceived. The Greek word is eklektos which means favorite, elect, chosen. When false teachers and prophets start showing full blown signs and wonders even some of God's chosen will be deceived. The KJV uses the word "seduce" (lead astray) instead of "deceive". Matthew 13:22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. It means that the deception will be so strong that even the elect would be deceived, if that were possible. It's implied that such a thing is not possible. Mark 13:22 (KJV) For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornbird Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 204 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/05/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, missmuffet said: The actual words that you read. Don't make up your own meaning. 55 minutes ago, missmuffet said: Parables are not literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,993 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,691 Content Per Day: 11.76 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Thornbird said: Parables are not literal. Parables can present a challenge for the student of the Bible. Jesus told parables to: reveal the truth to those who wanted to know it and to conceal the truth for those who were indifferent. Most are explained. There is also some challenging scripture in the book of Revelation. A person can always go to a trusted Bible scholar who has studied the book of Revelation and get the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) A few months ago, I wrote this on another topic: Source: https://www.so4j.com/false-teachers/ Edited January 3, 2022 by Saved.One.by.Grace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-B Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,974 Content Per Day: 2.21 Reputation: 1,636 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/03/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Selah7 said: Hi, debrakay — Actually, the Elect (Chosen) will be the only ones NOT deceived. They will never bow a knee to the AC and will endure to the very end. I agree 10 hours ago, debrakay said: That is not what the scripture says to me. ...I'm afraid I think it is rather dangerous to rely on self-interpretation of Scripture. I don't know if you are a teacher @debrakaybut I'm hoping this is not something you teach others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 3, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,379 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,560 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 3, 2022 16 hours ago, other one said: Problem is who gets to decide what is false and what is not. It would seem that it is the one who is yielded to God to the precepts that is learned more is given; So then the one that 'has' more will be given as promised Mark 4:24-25 24 And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. 25 For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath. KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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