truth7t7 Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: Do you believe everyone who calls Jesus lord will enter the kingdom of heaven or only those who do God's will and listen to what his son has taught? Are you suggesting I'm not following God's will? Edited May 24, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Joulre2abba said: The speculation train has completely gone off it's track and tries to move forward by spinning it's wheels in the tall thick grass. Why would the people marvel at seeing missiles? Have they been living under a rock that missiles are something that they've never seen before? By injecting actual scripture.. In the OT Elijah called fire down from heaven.. however that does not mean that it was modern weaponry of missiles (mwm). Even with putting the action into the future.. that still doesn't mean that mwm would be used. The text doesn't compare the fire to be like or as something else. So the reader is grammatically stuck with "fire". Besides the fire comes out of their mouths. So if missiles are coming out of their mouths as you use your modern assertions.. the two witnesses would have to be transformed into (I'm not a war arsenal expert) whatever military apparatus the missiles are put in till they are blasted out. Yet Rev.11:3 states that the two witnesses will prophesy .. and that they are clothed in sackcloth. Clearly they are people. I wonder what your brain imagines when you read in Rev.19:12 that Jesus' eyes are a flame of fire. What is being talked about there.. bursted fireworks instead of gloriously glowing pupils? I believe the two witnesses will be Enoch/Elijah who never experienced death, fire from their mouth means that at their spoken words like Elijah calling fire down from heaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: Are you suggesting I'm not following God's will? No, this isn't about you. This is about the two Christians who are killed and thier dead bodies lay in the street where also thier Lord was crucified. Do you believe those two Christians will enter the kingdom of heaven even though they do the exact opposite of what Jesus tells Christians to do in the gospel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: No, this isn't about you. This is about the two Christians who are killed and thier dead bodies lay in the street where also thier Lord was crucified. Do you believe those two Christians will enter the kingdom of heaven even though they do the exact opposite of what Jesus tells Christians to do in the gospel? I Don't have a clue what you are suggesting in the (Two Witnesses) being Christians not doing God's will? You have made several claims regarding the (Two Witnesses) 1.) false prophet, 2.) gentiles, 3.) renegade Christians? Please post scripture to support your claims made, thanks Edited May 24, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, truth7t7 said: I Don't have a clue what you are suggesting in the (Two Witnesses) being Christians not doing God's will? You have made several claims regarding the (Two Witnesses) 1.) false prophet, 2.) gentiles, 3.) renegade Christians? Please post scripture to support your claims made, thanks You have not read where the two witnesses torment and kill people? Is that what your asking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: You have not read where the two witnesses torment and kill people? Is that what your asking for? Yes scripture clearly teaches the (Two Witnesses) are "Prophets" of God, and they will bring plagues upon the "Wicked" just as Moses/Aaron in Egypt Revelation 11:6 & 10KJV 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Revelation 9:20-21KJV 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. Edited May 24, 2022 by truth7t7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, truth7t7 said: Yes scripture clearly teaches the (Two Witnesses) are "Prophets" of God, and they will bring plagues upon the "Wicked" just as Moses/Aaron in Egypt Revelation 11:6 & 10KJV 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Revelation 9:20-21KJV 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. So, do you believe Jesus taught those two Christians to torment and kill other people and can you show any scripture showing Jesus telling anyone they should kill anyone? Likewise do you know of any scripture where Jesus says his disciples shouldn't kill anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted May 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said: So, do you believe Jesus taught those two Christians to torment and kill other people and can you show any scripture showing Jesus telling anyone they should kill anyone? Likewise do you know of any scripture where Jesus says his disciples shouldn't kill anyone? God is righteous in judgement, you think the first born dying in Egypt, was everybody holding hands and skipping down the yellow brick road to the Kingdom of OZ? Perhaps Jesus was judgemental in his turning over tables in the temple, while chasing out the money changers with a whip? Don't forget Ananias & Sapphira who fell dead at the apostles feet, for lying to the Holy Spirit? The unsaved wicked being tormented eternally with fire and brimstone, before the holy angels and Jesus Christ? Revelation 14:9-10KJV 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: The (Two Witnesses) will bring God's plagues in righteous judgment, upon the antichrist and the wicked world Jesus Is The Lord Edited May 24, 2022 by truth7t7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted May 25, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, truth7t7 said: God is righteous in judgement, you think the first born dying in Egypt, was everybody holding hands and skipping down the yellow brick road to the Kingdom of OZ? Perhaps Jesus was judgemental in his turning over tables in the temple, while chasing out the money changers with a whip? Don't forget Ananias & Sapphira who fell dead at the apostles feet, for lying to the Holy Spirit? The unsaved wicked being tormented eternally with fire and brimstone, before the holy angels and Jesus Christ? Revelation 14:9-10KJV 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: The (Two Witnesses) will bring God's plagues in righteous judgment, upon the antichrist and the wicked world Jesus Is The Lord The two witnesses are in Jerusalem are they not? The prostitute whom the beast attacks is Jerusalem is it not? Is it not the prostitute who recieves the cup of the wine of the wrath of God? https://biblehub.com/revelation/16-19.htm The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. Those two witnesses who tormented others will be in that cloud that rises from Jerusalem on that day. Edited May 25, 2022 by Shilohsfoal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted May 25, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) In one's life time huh, who could say that when simply tomorrow is no garentee Edited May 25, 2022 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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