TheBlade Posted December 28, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,217 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,120 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Not in the torah it is in Midrashic texts (textual interpretation) and its folklore. Its not true but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 28, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The woman spoken of in Genesis 1:27 is Eve. Lilith is an unbiblical myth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,868 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Maybe it's Cain's wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeFivew Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 9:21 AM, choir loft said: There was war in heaven.....if the book of Revelation is to be believed. Revelation is the last book of the Bible. Jesus said He saw satan "fall like lightning" in the gospel of Luke (written before Revelation). The gospels were written after the Tanach (OT) and before Revelation. In Genesis chapter 3 the Bible narrative introduces the serpent as the demonic temper of Eve. Genesis is the first book of Torah/Pentateuch. The writing of Genesis predates the writing of both Revelation and the gospel of Luke. The Eden story predates the chronicle of the Nephilim - described in Genesis chapter 6 and Numbers 13. Your statement "demons didn't come into being until Nephilim started to die" is incorrect for three reasons. First, the Bible suggests the existence of demons predated the placement of Eve and Adam in Eden. Why? Because Revelation describes war in heaven and Jesus testifies that He saw satan fall from heaven as a result of the victory of the war against it. Revelation says a third of the spirits of heaven fell with satan to the earth. Jesus saw it happen and satan first appears on earth in Genesis chapter 3. We are looking at a war in time-less eternity as described in temporal history on earth. Everything is backwards. At the end of the Bible we are told of a war that happened before Eve and Adam were created. We are told the demon army fell with satan bringing Woe unto the inhabitants of earth. Second, the Bible clearly states the Nephilim were descents of Anak (Numbers 13:33) a human. Whatever or whomever the Nephilim really were isn't clearly defined. What we DO know about them is that they were mortal and born of flesh. They may have acted wickedly (a reason for the flood), but they weren't the source of demonic authority nor were they demons themselves. Third, your statement regarding your personal demonic worship in the 70's CONTRADICTS THE BIBLICAL RECORD. You cannot use your personal experience to justify false interpretations of the Bible. You can't because your experience is in doubt. It's doubtful because demons are known to be liars and known to represent themselves as beings of light and truth. (2 Corinthians 11:14). Be advised I'm not saying you didn't have an experience. I'm saying it wasn't a truthful one because of that which inspired it. (Do you believe everything you see on TV? The same principle applies with regard to demonic inspiration.) Demons cannot be trusted to interpret the Bible. Please refrain from using demonic experience as an interpretive tool for scripture. You do yourself and everyone else a disservice. It also promotes the demonic agenda to disqualify God's Honest Truth. (Genesis 3:4) Please consider my words. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeFivew Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2022 Is it possible that there was more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? Let us make man in our own image. It doesn't say a man, and a woman. It's almost as though it was about mankind. Was there likely more than one Eve, and more than one Adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 29, 2022 DNA geneticists have determined that our ancestry comes from one man and one woman at the beginning of history, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,868 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, heartwashed3 said: The woman spoken of in Genesis 1:27 is Eve. Lilith is an unbiblical myth. In Ezekiel 34, her is mentioned as an owl who lays eggs and they hatch, doesn't seem like a human certainly women don't lay eggs and hatch. Not sure where the name Lilith came from. 34:15 There the owl will make her nest; she will lay and hatch her eggs and gather her brood under her shadow. Even there the birds of prey will gather, each with its mate. Edited December 29, 2022 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, BeyondET said: In Ezekiel 34, her is mentioned as an owl who lays eggs and they hatch, doesn't seem like a human certainly women don't lay eggs and hatch. Not sure where the name Lilith came from. 34:15 There the owl will make her nest; she will lay and hatch her eggs and gather her brood under her shadow. Even there the birds of prey will gather, each with its mate. I don't see the name "Lilith" in that verse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,868 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, heartwashed3 said: I don't see the name "Lilith" in that verse. Some translations have Lilith in it, not sure why but afew do. Though it is the verse before that in 14 Like this one Amplified Bible 14 The creatures of the desert will encounter jackals And the hairy goat will call to its kind; Indeed, Lilith (night demon) will settle there And find herself a place of rest. Edited December 29, 2022 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartwashed3 Posted December 29, 2022 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 2 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 800 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/02/1973 Share Posted December 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Some translations have Lilith in it, not sure why but afew do. Though it is the verse before that in 14 Like this one Amplified Bible 14 The creatures of the desert will encounter jackals And the hairy goat will call to its kind; Indeed, Lilith (night demon) will settle there And find herself a place of rest. Might be the transliteration of a word that means something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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