choir loft Posted August 22, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,209 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) According to some traditions Adam had two wives. The first one was Lilith. The creation of an unNamed woman is chronicled in Genesis 1:27. This person is also called “the night monster” in Isaiah 34:14. Lilith was supposedly evicted from Eden because of some infraction of God’s LAW. Tradition isn't too clear on the issue. Lilith is also identified with either a screech owl or some sort of errant demon spirit that bothers men in the evening (a succubus?). The Isaiah passage suggests two interpretations. Anyway, Adam’s first wife is supposed to have been Lilith or Lilit depending upon spelling and the version you read. The tradition of two wives and of the disparity in their creation may actually be due to the occurrence of three creation stories in the first two chapters of Genesis. Each of them is slightly different as are the gospels. 1st creation story: Genesis 1:1 - Genesis 1:9 2nd creation story: Genesis 1:10 - Genesis 2:3 3rd creation story: Genesis 2:4 - Genesis 2:25 Adam’s second wife was Eve. She was created in Genesis 2:22 and named in Genesis 3:20. In Genesis 3, Eve is the first person to yield to satanic temptation. She then proceeds to seduce her husband into following her into SIN. Consequently both are evicted from Eden and judged accordingly. Adam is forced to sweat and work for the rest of his life and Eve suffers pain when she brings children into the world because she also brought SIN into the world. So, the question arises: are women as great as they like to think they are? Also, shall we follow their lead (into SIN)? Are they daughters of Lilith or children of Eve? What’s the difference? What say you? that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Edited August 22, 2022 by choir loft spelling corrections 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 22, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,858 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2022 Adam was made front the dust of the earth, and Eve was made from Adam's rib. So technically men are dirt and women are prime rib. BTW Lilith is a fallen angel. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ayin jade Posted August 23, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.21 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 Your first words says it all. according to tradition Tradition is not the bible. What say I? I say its bunk. Adam had one wife not two. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted August 23, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,193 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,469 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Genesis 3:20 (KJV) [20] And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Well there's another- God answered that question... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael37 Posted August 23, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,952 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,870 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 12:55 AM, choir loft said: According to some traditions Adam had two wives. Such are corrupt traditions. Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choir loft Posted August 25, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,209 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 2:35 PM, other one said: Adam was made front the dust of the earth, and Eve was made from Adam's rib. So technically men are dirt and women are prime rib. BTW Lilith is a fallen angel. I like your joke about dirt and ribs. I find no reference in scripture which declares Lilith is a fallen angel. If you have one, please share it. If you have a traditional reference, please share its source. According to my limited investigation, Isaiah's reference to Lilith the night monster has something to do with a screech owl. Some people find the night calls of the owl somewhat disturbing. I can understand this sort of reference. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choir loft Posted August 25, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,209 Content Per Day: 0.38 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/10/1947 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 6:28 PM, Michael37 said: Such are corrupt traditions. Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; Yours is an accurate observation. The church today is inebriated with corrupt traditions. All it seems one has to do is attend a church sermon to learn a few more. There is scarcely room here to even list them all. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 26, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,132 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,858 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 8/25/2022 at 7:22 AM, choir loft said: I like your joke about dirt and ribs. I find no reference in scripture which declares Lilith is a fallen angel. If you have one, please share it. If you have a traditional reference, please share its source. According to my limited investigation, Isaiah's reference to Lilith the night monster has something to do with a screech owl. Some people find the night calls of the owl somewhat disturbing. I can understand this sort of reference. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... One has to look into Jewish writings to find such. My personal belief comes from direct demon contacts in back in the 70s. Jewish beliefs put her as Adams first wife, or the head demois. Demons didn't come into being until Nephilim started to die, so must be a fallen angel. Of course may well just be a good story (fairytale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted August 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,820 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,806 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2022 choir loft, The whole of Isaiah 34 is about God's wrath against the nations - particular Edom. God's judgment is coming it says and the land is going to be land desolate. The passage YOU are referring is about how nothing but wild animals will be able to live there when God gets through with it. And it lists the creatures. Nothing in that passages teaches about a demon or woman named Lilith. Here's what David Guzik says about the Hebrew word "lilith". "The Hebrew word for night creature is lilith, which is the feminine form of the word "night." Old Jewish superstitions make Lilith a beautiful demon of the night, who seduced men and killed children. It is possible that Isaiah uses the term to describe the demonic habitation of Edom after God's judgment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 26, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 5:55 AM, choir loft said: According to some traditions Adam had two wives. The first one was Lilith. The creation of an unNamed woman is chronicled in Genesis 1:27. This person is also called “the night monster” in Isaiah 34:14. Lilith was supposedly evicted from Eden because of some infraction of God’s LAW. Tradition isn't too clear on the issue. Lilith is also identified with either a screech owl or some sort of errant demon spirit that bothers men in the evening (a succubus?). The Isaiah passage suggests two interpretations. Anyway, Adam’s first wife is supposed to have been Lilith or Lilit depending upon spelling and the version you read. The tradition of two wives and of the disparity in their creation may actually be due to the occurrence of three creation stories in the first two chapters of Genesis. Each of them is slightly different as are the gospels. 1st creation story: Genesis 1:1 - Genesis 1:9 2nd creation story: Genesis 1:10 - Genesis 2:3 3rd creation story: Genesis 2:4 - Genesis 2:25 Adam’s second wife was Eve. She was created in Genesis 2:22 and named in Genesis 3:20. In Genesis 3, Eve is the first person to yield to satanic temptation. She then proceeds to seduce her husband into following her into SIN. Consequently both are evicted from Eden and judged accordingly. Adam is forced to sweat and work for the rest of his life and Eve suffers pain when she brings children into the world because she also brought SIN into the world. So, the question arises: are women as great as they like to think they are? Also, shall we follow their lead (into SIN)? Are they daughters of Lilith or children of Eve? What’s the difference? What say you? that's me, hollering from the choir loft... The Bible tells us that Eve was Adams first wife. Why should we see it any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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