Climate Change Is Extremely Political And Agenda Serving, Unfortunately It Is Also True

[believeinHim]

On 3/19/2023 at 2:37 PM, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, The_Patriot21.

Yeah, no one has been able to significantly change the weather. Even seeding the clouds for rain doesn't always work! 

We human beings often feel we're bigger and more important than we actually are. 

Most of the good that can be done and SHOULD be done is to clean up the air and water around our major cities! THAT'S where we might be able to make a difference! Too long have our major cities, like New York, NY, and Los Angeles, CA, trusted in nature to keep things clean, as we continually dump into water ways and landfills! It's like the issue major cities have had and may still have on occasion with smog.

On 3/19/2023 at 2:37 PM, Retrobyter said:

God said, "Spread out and fill the earth." Man said, "Let's congregate into large cities and build a tower to reach the skies!"

It certainly does feel that way, 

[The Barbarian]

3 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

 

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/pages/article/sea-level-rise-flood-global-warming-science

This is merely predicting an increase in periodic flooding of low-lying cities.   Which seemed pretty extreme in 2017 when it was published, but some of those predictions are already verified in 2023.

8 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.timeout.com/things-to-do/cities-that-could-be-underwater-by-2030

Never heard of those guys, but the headline doesn't fit the article.   Again, we are already seeing periodic flooding in places where it wasn't before.  But none of those cities are presented as being completely flooded by 2050, which is likely right.

10 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/29/climate/coastal-cities-underwater.html

Paywall, but the assertion that rising sea levels could "all but erase" certain coastal cities in the next century are what scientists are predicting.   Notice maps of projected rise don't show any major cities completely submerged.

12 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.livescience.com/what-places-disappear-rising-sea-levels

Never saw this source before, either, but the worst it says is that a couple of island nations could have most of their land underwater by the end of the century.  This is pretty much what the data says.   Misleading title,though.

17 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/world/rising-sea-cities-study-intl-hnk-scli-sci/index.html

As the title says, sea rise is proceeding a lot faster than expected.   This is true.  Would you like to see the data for that?

19 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/obama-climate-change.html

If you consider the displacement of hundreds of millions of people to be "terrifying" I suppose so.  China, for example, has a huge problem with many millions of people living in areas likely to be frequently or permanently flooded in this century.

21 minutes ago, Ps37 said:

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/23/990307470/john-kerry-says-climate-change-is-an-existential-crisi

This is a report on what John Kerry says.   I checked.  He's accurately quoted.    But it's existential for people living in those areas which will become subject to regular or permanent flooding.   Not so much for some others.   However, every dark age has been preceded by climate changes that caused large displacements of people.   So there some concern on that...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1177_B.C.:_The_Year_Civilization_Collapsed

[Ps37]

On 5/8/2023 at 6:23 PM, The Barbarian said:

I'm guessing you got this off some denier website without actually checking the details. 

On 5/8/2023 at 1:53 PM, Ps37 said:

What is the definition of "denier website"?

For example, one that tells you that Obama and Kerry said cities were going to be "submerged" in the next century or so.   You're a victim only as you let those guys tell you stories like that.

I've looked at the data.  While some areas of low-lying coastal cities would be flooded, none of them would be "submerged."

"to go below or make something go below the surface of the sea or a river or lake: "

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/submerge

I can't think of one that would even be completely flooded in this century.   This kind of hysterical exaggeration is a common characteristic of denier websites. 

 

Since you stated:

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I've looked at the data.  While some areas of low-lying coastal cities would be flooded, none of them would be "submerged."

"to go below or make something go below the surface of the sea or a river or lake: "

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/submerge

I can't think of one that would even be completely flooded in this century. 

it would seem the following might be "hysterical exaggeration:

"Rising Seas Will Erase More Cities by 2050": National Geographic

"15 cities that could be underwater by 2030": NY Times

 

First you state:

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I can't think of one that would even be completely flooded in this century. 

 

Then you state:

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the assertion that rising sea levels could "all but erase" certain coastal cities in the next century are what scientists are predicting. 

 

Seems like a bit of a moving target.

 

 

[The Barbarian]

2 hours ago, Ps37 said:

"Rising Seas Will Erase More Cities by 2050": National Geographic

"15 cities that could be underwater by 2030": NY Times

The titles were misleading, and didn't reflect the articles.   Which is why I suggested you pay attention to what scientists are saying, rather than newspapers and magazines.

A city doesn't have to be completely underwater to be unlivable; only key areas.    And as you see, the Nat. Geographic title was misleading.   Again, if you pay attention to the scientific literature you wouldn't be misled.

 

[Ps37]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

The titles were misleading, and didn't reflect the articles.

 

Kind of makes you wonder why "non-hysterical" "non-denier" outlets would print misleading titles.

 

In any event, when in the span of a few posts, someone can go from

 

On 5/8/2023 at 6:23 PM, The Barbarian said:

I can't think of one that would even be completely flooded in this century.   This kind of hysterical exaggeration is a common characteristic of denier websites.

 

 

to

 

16 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

the assertion that rising sea levels could "all but erase" certain coastal cities in the next century are what scientists are predicting.

 

I'm comfortable maintaining my level of skepticism.

 

[BibleWords]

On 10/13/2022 at 1:43 PM, David1701 said:

N.Z. is going to tax cow burps???  Perhaps the genius who came up with that idea would like a nice padded cell to live in, and a matching jacket that fastens up the back.  Alternatively, he could be a leader in the N.W.O..

There is no such thing as “climate change”, only climate changes.

Of course there are changes in everything because of the activities around us.

But there is no big green climate change monster that mankind can alter or create at all, or should worry about.

We Christians have read the back of the Book and we know who wins.

Destroying the climate is the least of mankind’s worries right now.

Maybe we should put hate, unbelief, disobedience, transgenderism, pornography, blasphemy, and a whole host of other sins before climate change.

Good grief.

[believeinHim]

17 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

@believeinHimI didn't write what you quoted. How did they get my name on that ? @The BarbarianI don't even know or understand what it means, what you quoted. 

 

I am confused. I didn't write what you quoted. How did they get my name on that ? I don't even know what it means what you quoted. 

Edited May 24, 2023 by believeinHim

[believeinHim]

17 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

I didn't write what you quoted, @The Barbarian, I don't even know or understand what it means...............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,@believeinHim...............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

I am confused, I don't even know what all of that means, @The Barbarian, I didn't write what you quoted.......,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[believeinHim]

17 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Man has succeeded in changing climate.   Mesopotamia was once a fertile and green land.   It's now semi-arid to desert.   It started with poor irrigation practices that caused salt buildup, and then by depleting nutrients from the soil.  

The Romans did something similar to Israel by cutting down all the forests; Israel is now changing the climate back by careful management.

 

@Retrobyteris the one who said that, Not me. I just gave him an emoji, That either means whatever it means, or not. I am not sure I grasp hardly any of this science stuff, In all honesty, Religion and Psychology is more my thing, And I study Religion more than Psychology. You are all kind of speaking Greek to me, I go with a gut feeling, And whatever Psychology tells me, Not really an actual exact knowledge of things, It's more like a feeling, or an intuition...........,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, @The Barbarian...............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Neighbor]

Hi, I just did it,- twice. How? By clicking  on a quote within a previous post that has a response within it instead of using the quote button.

The quote gets posted, but is attributed to the original writer that was being quoted in that previous post. And it just posts it as a new post.

Weird, but I have accidentally done it several times now.