farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thanks to the contributors to the thread so far........... (iIt's not long been started, so it seems to be of some interest.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 @ayin jadeI hope this link does not bother you; but do you have any wisdom for this topic? you seem like you would attempt a balanced outlook, if I may says so......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,798 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2022 I was never a smoker so I do not have experience in the hardship of quitting. I do know that vaping is worse than most folks think. Perhaps the only thing that can help folks quit is to call on the Lord to help them. As for whether it is a sin or not, I think that is one of those grey areas where its a sin for some but not others. I dont like smoke and avoid smokers when I can (health issues), but I dont look down on folks who smoke. Thanks for the compliment btw farouk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 minute ago, ayin jade said: I was never a smoker so I do not have experience in the hardship of quitting. I do know that vaping is worse than most folks think. Perhaps the only thing that can help folks quit is to call on the Lord to help them. As for whether it is a sin or not, I think that is one of those grey areas where its a sin for some but not others. I dont like smoke and avoid smokers when I can (health issues), but I dont look down on folks who smoke. Thanks for the compliment btw farouk Thoughtful response; thanks @ayin jade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, ayin jade said: As for whether it is a sin or not, I think that is one of those grey areas where its a sin for some but not others. PS: @ayin jadeThe great preacher Spurgeon is supposed to have been a smoker; I don't see how this is supposed to have detracted from his most valuable ministry. (I read someplace that in parts of North America it was widespread - prior to the American Civil War - for women to smoke after church services.) I do think that a lot of the "moralizing" that goes on is actually more cultural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,250 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,981 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2022 During Spurgeon's time, I don't think we realized how destructive smoking was/is. When I was young and started smoking I didn't hear people talking about it being harmful. Most every adult I was around smoked something. If you really want to quit, get to know someone very well who has stage 4 lung cancer and spend some time with them and watch them die. It's very ugly. I know several people who have stopped this way when family members died. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.83 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 hours ago, farouk said: PS: @Not of the World I reckon I was thinking about the aspect of the person being able to cut down steadily on the amount of nicotine added to the vape. (I'm not sure it's a "religious" thing, necessarily.) Maybe try switching to a cigarette with less nicotine to get started??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, other one said: During Spurgeon's time, I don't think we realized how destructive smoking was/is. When I was young and started smoking I didn't hear people talking about it being harmful. Most every adult I was around smoked something. If you really want to quit, get to know someone very well who has stage 4 lung cancer and spend some time with them and watch them die. It's very ugly. I know several people who have stopped this way when family members died. Good points there; yes, see someone near and dear with lung cancer (one hopes it won't come to that): it concentrates the mind wonderfully................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Not of the World said: Maybe try switching to a cigarette with less nicotine to get started??? @Not of the World I was thinking particularly of ppl that smoked cigarettes already but used vaping to cut down gradually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted November 21, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,561 Content Per Day: 12.13 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Alive said: Ismoked and did lots of drugs when a teen. When the Lord rescued me, he took all that away that very day. No effort on my part. I was 19. @Alive Sounds like quitting cold turkey worked for you............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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