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Why is Ekklesia still translated as "Church?"


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2 hours ago, Alive said:

How often can you cause an Arminian to study more.

More than you are probably aware!

I ran across some good black Friday deals on volume sets. I was about to press the enter key to order a 6-volume set by John Gill. I changed my mind and purchased the set by Clarence Larkin instead. I already have some works by John Gill (reformer), which are excellent.

Anyway, the point is. I was surprised how many top-notch scholars and theologians were reformed (Calvinist). During this little check, I discovered that John MacArthur was a reformed Calvinist. I have his entire collection. Go figure.

In another brief study for a class, I was also surprised about the number of reformed Baptists and their history. My take is that because I disagree on one point does not mean I am right; the rest of their work and interpretation are still outstanding.

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1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

That's a great observation!  Yes, as I see it, there is only one church per municipality. Even though we have a lot of different denominations, etc., it is one body.  Even though the expression s not one locally, it doesn't mean that we're not one in Spirit, and should accept and fellowship with one another accordingly.

Yes; although, there should also be repentance for the division caused by having denominations.

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2 hours ago, David1701 said:

Yes; although, there should also be repentance for the division caused by having denominations.

In the brightness of His love, glory & grace, all divisions will vanish!

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15 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

Thanks!  And does that mean I will no longer have to bow to royal members?  :red-neck-laughing-smiley-emoticon:

No bowing allowed but observing the GOLDEN RULE and fulfilling the ROYAL LAW is advised.

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9 hours ago, Michael37 said:

No bowing allowed but observing the GOLDEN RULE and fulfilling the ROYAL LAW is advised.

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Of course - that's my intention.  And through Christ living in me, I hope to do just that!

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19 hours ago, David1701 said:

It's interesting that "ekklesia" (congregation) is never used in the plural in a town; but, it is always used in the plural in a region.  The implication is that there should only be one "ekklesia" in any given town or village, but regions could have many.

I used to meet with a group that took a real stand on the fact of "one church - one city."  We met as the "Church in __________" (whatever locality we were in)  It's a scriptural concept, but can also fall into the trap that Paul outlined in 1st Corinthians 1:12, Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am with Paul,” or “I am with Apollos,” or “I am with Cephas,” or “I am with Christ.” Of course, all those things they were saying were true, but there's a little arrogance that can come with that declaration, therefore it becomes a division.

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20 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

In the brightness of His love, glory & grace, all divisions will vanish!

When the Lord returns...

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4 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I used to meet with a group that took a real stand on the fact of "one church - one city."  We met as the "Church in __________" (whatever locality we were in)  It's a scriptural concept, but can also fall into the trap that Paul outlined in 1st Corinthians 1:12, Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, “I am with Paul,” or “I am with Apollos,” or “I am with Cephas,” or “I am with Christ.” Of course, all those things they were saying were true, but there's a little arrogance that can come with that declaration, therefore it becomes a division.

The Brethren, in the UK, do this, which is unintentionally ironic, when you have competing Brethren assemblies (e.g. Open Brethren and Closed Brethren), in the same town.  Having said that, the principle is correct; it's just that its implementation needs the grace of God.

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1 hour ago, David1701 said:

When the Lord returns...

Could be, unless there's another great awakening . . .

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1 hour ago, David1701 said:

The Brethren, in the UK, do this, which is unintentionally ironic, when you have competing Brethren assemblies (e.g. Open Brethren and Closed Brethren), in the same town.  Having said that, the principle is correct; it's just that its implementation needs the grace of God.

Exactly!  Humans just can't seem to do it without letting the flesh get in the way, getting prideful then feelings of exclusivity come in.  None of that is (obviously) of the One Spirit!

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