yomotalking Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,838 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/29/1991 Share Posted October 8, 2005 ........To be honest, I'm not sure. I suppose that the instant you accept Jesus into your heart, He comes, and you are saved. But some people disagree. They say you have to "seek" God until you find him, (that could be years, or the rest of your life) .......and then, once you've done that, you can ask Jesus in........ I disagree. I know their Childern want to become Christians, but they suppose they have to havea big "thing" happen to them, before they can become Christians.... I'm not so sure. Of course, I felt happy after, but there was no big "thing" that made me. What are your views on the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iryssa Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 117 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,860 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/13/1984 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I believe "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." (Rom. 10:9) I see no scriptural evidence to suggest that you have to someow work your way to a point where you can be saved. God has a plan, and the Holy Spirit is going to draw people to Himself at the right moment, whatever that may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,254 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,983 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2005 I believe "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." (Rom. 10:9) I see no scriptural evidence to suggest that you have to someow work your way to a point where you can be saved. God has a plan, and the Holy Spirit is going to draw people to Himself at the right moment, whatever that may be. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> However I might add that the phrase confess with your mouth "Jesus is Lord" is a real mouth full and once you get below the very surface becomes not so simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 151 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/06/1966 Share Posted October 8, 2005 God also knows the intent in your heart and hears it as well. For some, slavation comes immediately and for others it takes a while. I don't know why this is, but I believe its God's will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeward Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 108 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2005 Conversion is instant. Growth is ongoing. Grace and Peace to you, Yomo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I would think that once you've confessed your sins, that would remove all obstacles. A lot of people sin without thinking they are sinning. Because of pride, ignorance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeward Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 108 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2005 (edited) You're right, Gerioke. There are tons of obstacles in the walk. Landmines if you will...ie., pride, fear, depression, rejection, jealousy, anger, guilt, loneliness, lust, etc., etc., etc. And then there's Satan throwing his fiery darts. Aaargh, it is difficult! But be of good cheer brother, for you know we have a mighty and concerned helper in our God. Our Father, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, the word, prayer. Edited October 8, 2005 by Homeward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iryssa Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 117 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,860 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/13/1984 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Conversion is instant. Growth is ongoing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said! That pretty much covers it, and very succinctly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodischild Posted October 8, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/24/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1977 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Conversion is instant. Growth is ongoing. Grace and Peace to you, Yomo <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomotalking Posted October 9, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,838 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/29/1991 Author Share Posted October 9, 2005 What some people say is: It's not right to go for salvation, because you do not fully understand what you are doing. I remember once talking to friends who don't believe in Instant Conversion. I said something,and he got a bit narky, and said "We're not like you!!!" (Meaning, praying, and recieving Christ, then, right there.) I was a bit hurt. He said it like I was an alien from space. But you guys, how do you see this? I don't know....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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