Who tried to kill Christ?

[Shilohsfoal]

I've heard there was a child born who would rule all nations with a rod of iron but someone tried to kill him as soon as he was born.

 

Who tried to kill the child soon as he was born?

[NConly]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I've heard there was a child born who would rule all nations with a rod of iron but someone tried to kill him as soon as he was born.

 

Who tried to kill the child soon as he was born?

Herod. But I don't think it was done as stated. All kids under two were killed so that leads me to believe it was a while before the decree came down.

[Shilohsfoal]

7 hours ago, NConly said:

Herod. But I don't think it was done as stated. All kids under two were killed so that leads me to believe it was a while before the decree came down.

 

Your right,it was Herod (king of Judea).

Mathew 2:13

When they had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. “Get up,” he said, “take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him.”
 

 

No one else searched to kill the child.

[Shilohsfoal]

Since everyone knows it was the king of Judea who tried to kill Christ,

I wonder why no one ever considers the king of Judea as the one who tries to kill the child?

 

Revelation 12

³ And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

⁴ And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

⁵ And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

 

 

No one ever considers the obvious.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Michael37]

7 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Since everyone knows it was the king of Judea who tried to kill Christ,

I wonder why no one ever considers the king of Judea as the one who tries to kill the child?

No one ever considers the obvious.

FYI @Shilohsfoal , see footnotes for sources that do make the connection.

According to my web search results, some commentaries do interpret Revelation 12:4 as referring to Herod's slaughter of children. For example, one commentary on Revelation 12:4 states that "just as the dragon Herod sought to take away the life of Jesus quickly after his birth" ². Another source states that "John alludes to it [Herod's slaughter of children] in the Apocalypse (Rev. 12:1-4)" ⁴. Is there anything else you would like to know?

Source: Conversation with Bing, 27/04/2023

(1) Revelation 12:4 - Bible Verse Meaning and Commentary. https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/revelation-12-4.html Accessed 27/04/2023.
(2) A Pagan Records the Slaughter of the Innocents by Herod. https://preachersinstitute.com/2020/11/23/pagan-records-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-by-herod/ Accessed 27/04/2023.
(3) Revelation 12:4 Commentary - A Testimony of Jesus Christ. https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/revelation/revelation-12/revelation-12-4.html Accessed 27/04/2023.
(4) Revelation 12: A Preterist Commentary | Revelation Revolution. https://www.revelationrevolution.org/revelation-12-a-preterist-commentary/ Accessed 27/04/2023.
(5) Revelation 12:6 Commentaries: Then the woman fled into the wilderness .... https://biblehub.com/commentaries/revelation/12-6.htm Accessed 27/04/2023.
(6) Massacre of the Innocents - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents Accessed 27/04/2023.

[Shilohsfoal]

42 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

FYI @Shilohsfoal , see footnotes for sources that do make the connection.

According to my web search results, some commentaries do interpret Revelation 12:4 as referring to Herod's slaughter of children. For example, one commentary on Revelation 12:4 states that "just as the dragon Herod sought to take away the life of Jesus quickly after his birth" ². Another source states that "John alludes to it [Herod's slaughter of children] in the Apocalypse (Rev. 12:1-4)" ⁴. Is there anything else you would like to know?

Source: Conversation with Bing, 27/04/2023

(1) Revelation 12:4 - Bible Verse Meaning and Commentary. https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/revelation-12-4.html Accessed 27/04/2023.
(2) A Pagan Records the Slaughter of the Innocents by Herod. https://preachersinstitute.com/2020/11/23/pagan-records-the-slaughter-of-the-innocents-by-herod/ Accessed 27/04/2023.
(3) Revelation 12:4 Commentary - A Testimony of Jesus Christ. https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/revelation/revelation-12/revelation-12-4.html Accessed 27/04/2023.
(4) Revelation 12: A Preterist Commentary | Revelation Revolution. https://www.revelationrevolution.org/revelation-12-a-preterist-commentary/ Accessed 27/04/2023.
(5) Revelation 12:6 Commentaries: Then the woman fled into the wilderness .... https://biblehub.com/commentaries/revelation/12-6.htm Accessed 27/04/2023.
(6) Massacre of the Innocents - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents Accessed 27/04/2023.

 

For several days I've had people trying to convince me that the king of Judea could not possibly have seven heads and ten horns.They say it must be seven kingdoms.

Not one.

 

Even though Benjamin netanyahu has stated that he will pass legislation so that israelis will be microchiped and he wants Israel to have a cashless society,they can't see the connection between the one who would seek to kill the child and the one the woman will have to flee to the wilderness from for 1260 days.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Michael37]

9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

For several days I've had people trying to convince me that the king of Judea could not possibly have seven heads and ten horns.They say it must be seven kingdoms.

Not one.

 

Even though Benjamin netanyahu has stated that he will pass legislation so that israelis will be microchiped and he wants Israel to have a cashless society,they can't see the connection between the one who would seek to kill the child and the one the woman will have to flee to the wilderness from for 1260 days.

Some folk do find metaphors hard to get their head around. There are numerous metaphors for Satan.

Conceptual imagery is the basis of communication. Letters are symbols used to create language, and meaning is only possible when an association is made between what is written or spoken and the object that is being described.

The depiction of Satan as a red dragon with seven heads, each with a crown on them, and ten horns is deeply symbolic, but it is actually the seven-headed beast from the sea in Rev 13 that corresponds to the seven empires that oppress God's People throughout history.

Herod of course was a type of antichrist acting under the authority of Satan.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Some folk do find metaphors hard to get their head around. There are numerous metaphors for Satan.

Conceptual imagery is the basis of communication. Letters are symbols used to create language, and meaning is only possible when an association is made between what is written or spoken and the object that is being described.

The depiction of Satan as a red dragon with seven heads, each with a crown on them, and ten horns is deeply symbolic, but it is actually the seven-headed beast from the sea in Rev 13 that corresponds to the seven empires that oppress God's People throughout history.

Herod of course was a type of antichrist acting under the authority of Satan.

I haven't counted seven empires that oppress Gods people.I see one country that is increasingly oppressing God's people.

https://apnews.com/article/christians-easter-attacks-netanyahu-jerusalem-e287dd6bad32573d1656eaea07223782

 

[Michael37]

6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I haven't counted seven empires that oppress Gods people.I see one country that is increasingly oppressing God's people.

https://apnews.com/article/christians-easter-attacks-netanyahu-jerusalem-e287dd6bad32573d1656eaea07223782

 

Throughout history, starting with Egypt . . .

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

Throughout history, starting with Egypt . . .

You said 7.

I only see one nation persecuting God's people in the ends times in scripture.

Mathew 10:23

When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
 

You believe Egypt will be persecuting God's people throughout all the cities of Israel where the Jews live and reside?