luigi Posted June 4, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,801 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alive said: This was true at first in Jerusalem, but the Lord made sure the bulk were scattered…although believers did so in small groups through the centuries, its never been the norm. That would mean a light under a bushel. So what you are saying is that what they were at the beginning was and is not the Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted June 4, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.47 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) On 6/4/2023 at 9:26 AM, luigi said: So what you are saying is that what they were at the beginning was and is not the Way. No--I am saying it can be, but does not have to be. History bears this out. I have seen it in my time here and it does not work to further the Kingdom. I have seen it as a form of cloistering. This is largely my opinion and not to be taken seriously. Edited June 5, 2023 by Alive typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted June 4, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,801 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alive said: No--I am saying it can be, but does not have to be. So Jesus who believed in this Way (His Way) who lived this Way with His apostles, maybe did not have to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi Posted June 5, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,801 Content Per Day: 1.03 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Alive said: No--I am saying it can be, but does not have to be. History bares this out. I have seen it in my time here and it does not work to further the Kingdom. I have seen it as a form of cloistering. This is largely my opinion and not to be taken seriously. Actually, you may be somewhat correct. According to the criteria in Luke 14:25-27, the individuals in Acts 2:44 who had sold all they had (and left everything in this world behind them), and shared everything in common appear to have met the criteria for discipleship. Individuals who did not and do not leave everything in this world behind them would simply not meet the criteria for discipleship. They could still be believers in Christs Way to love one another, but to a lesser degree, with worldly concerns. I consider myself in this lesser degree of faith category, as I'm sure over 99% of people who claim to be Christians are today. Edited June 5, 2023 by luigi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
com7fy8 Posted June 5, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 873 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 520 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Well, I would say prayer got them with God so they would do what He did with them. This might not show to others, but this was essential to getting God's results. On 6/3/2023 at 7:15 AM, FJK said: How would an outside observer tell one from another by just observing their appearance and how they went about their daily activities? The observer might need to observe someone for a while. Or, it could be obvious, right away. More obvious could be > preaching Jesus keeping company with other believers Edited June 5, 2023 by com7fy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,635 Content Per Day: 12.17 Reputation: 3,385 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2023 Acts 2.42 contains a pattern of activities among the early believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,635 Content Per Day: 12.17 Reputation: 3,385 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2023 12 hours ago, com7fy8 said: Well, I would say prayer got them with God so they would do what He did with them. This might not show to others, but this was essential to getting God's results. The observer might need to observe someone for a while. Or, it could be obvious, right away. More obvious could be > preaching Jesus keeping company with other believers I am reminded also of Malachi 3.16 as regards speaking often to one another, and the Lord hears it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
com7fy8 Posted June 6, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 873 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 520 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, farouk said: I am reminded also of Malachi 3.16 as regards speaking often to one another, and the Lord hears it......... Malachi 3:16 > "Then those who feared the LORD spoke to one another, And the LORD listened and heard them;" @FTK > So, then, I see how the early church could have been speaking to one another, and that in agreement with Jesus who was with them. And what they agreed upon would be done, Jesus says, in Matthew 18:19. Edited June 6, 2023 by com7fy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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