Shilohsfoal Posted June 24, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alive said: Some folks think the Lord has a spare universe ready to roll in. I prefer to think that the New Sky and Earth is actually the same, but completely remodeled. Fire is often used in scripture as a purifying agent. I suspect that the fire is symbolic for God cleansing the Earth of all of the results of the fall. One has to at least consider the eternal aspects of the promises regarding the earth and the LAND. Yes,the land of Canaan promised to Abraham for an everlasting possession will still be the land of Canaan.It will probably look very different with a new Jerusalem.Ive read there will be fish of various kinds swimming around on the dead sea. Thats a pretty big transformation for the dead sea but it will still be the same sea in the same location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted June 24, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted June 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Yes,the land of Canaan promised to Abraham for an everlasting possession will still be the land of Canaan.It will probably look very different with a new Jerusalem.Ive read there will be fish of various kinds swimming around on the dead sea. Thats a pretty big transformation for the dead sea but it will still be the same sea in the same location. So, when I read 'New Heaven and Earth', I think 'renewed', which is reasonable considering how that word in the Greek is used and all of scripture taken as background. --------------------- But the NT has significantly used kainos with its more qualitative sense in order to give expression [Vol. 2, p. 670] to the fundamentally new character of the advent of Christ. The qualitative difference between old and new comes to light most clearly in the NT contrast between the old (Old, art. πάλαι, NT 2 (b)) and the new man (art. καινός NT 2 (c)). καινός G2785 (kainos), new; καινότης G2786 (kainotēs), newness; καινίζω (kainizō), renew; καινόω (kainoō), make new; ἐγκαινίζω G1590 (enkainizō), make new, consecrate; ἀνακαινόω G363 (anakainoō), renew; ἀνακαίνωσις G364 (anakainōsis), renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 24, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alive said: So, when I read 'New Heaven and Earth', I think 'renewed', which is reasonable considering how that word in the Greek is used and all of scripture taken as background. --------------------- But the NT has significantly used kainos with its more qualitative sense in order to give expression [Vol. 2, p. 670] to the fundamentally new character of the advent of Christ. The qualitative difference between old and new comes to light most clearly in the NT contrast between the old (Old, art. πάλαι, NT 2 (b)) and the new man (art. καινός NT 2 (c)). καινός G2785 (kainos), new; καινότης G2786 (kainotēs), newness; καινίζω (kainizō), renew; καινόω (kainoō), make new; ἐγκαινίζω G1590 (enkainizō), make new, consecrate; ἀνακαινόω G363 (anakainoō), renew; ἀνακαίνωσις G364 (anakainōsis), renewal. Renewed is how I read it.Same earth that is inherited by the meek.A new improved earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 24, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Looks like Gog is blowing up bridges around him trying to slow the hotdog salesman down. And so many people were putting their money down on Putin to be the great Gog.They may have to soon place their bets on the hotdog salesman . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 24, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Fun is over soon at its began.Hotdog salesman and Putin his breeches have come to an agreement. Putin his breeches will restore his war on the little sisters of the poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 8:56 AM, Shilohsfoal said: This is for those who predicted Gog invades israel before the millinium. Two years ago Gog had the second strongest army in the world. Then he had the second strongest army in Ukraine. Now he has the second strongest army in Russia. Next he will have the second strongest army in Moscow. Roflol You do not even understand that was 100 PERCENT a Pys-op do you? LOL. So, that General guy Wagner guy (whoever) fakes turning on Putin, and thus out comes all of those who threw in with him in a moments notice, who stood down for him to pass on through, and Putin got a read on every nation that would back him at his time of need. Also, we assume that Putin is the guy because the TIME is at hand, a cra cra revolutionary could overthrow him and be worse than him, and be a Jew hater. We are speaking in practical terms, I can see no one ever overthrowing this man AND the time is at hand. Psstt, it doesn't matter if its Putin or someone who overthrows him, (which no one really thinks will happen) Gog is the Russian leader who attacks Israel, along with Iran & Turkey. Also, Putin got a read o everyone who called that Wagner guy up and tried to hep overthrow his Gov. The USA I imagine they already knew about, maybe the UK called, Australia, etc. This was a Pys-op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: You do not even understand that was 100 PERCENT a Pys-op do you? LOL. So, that General guy Wagner guy (whoever) fakes turning on Putin, and thus out comes all of those who threw in with him in a moments notice, who stood down for him to pass on through, and Putin got a read on every nation that would back him at his time of need. Also, we assume that Putin is the guy because the TIME is at hand, a cra cra revolutionary could overthrow him and be worse than him, and be a Jew hater. We are speaking in practical terms, I can see no one ever overthrowing this man AND the time is at hand. Psstt, it doesn't matter if its Putin or someone who overthrows him, (which no one really thinks will happen) Gog is the Russian leader who attacks Israel, along with Iran & Turkey. Also, Putin got a read o everyone who called that Wagner guy up and tried to hep overthrow his Gov. The USA I imagine they already knew about, maybe the UK called, Australia, etc. This was a Pys-op. Wagner and the Wagner group got what it wanted.=Out. Wagner and the Wagner group are not under Putin's control nor the Russian military.They are moving to Belarus where they do not have to partake in Putin's war anymore.They are free. It humiliated Putin showing that he doesn't have complete control and not everyone who once supported him still does. Putin gained absolutely nothing from this but he is grateful to live another day. Edited June 25, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted June 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 25, 2023 51 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Wagner and the Wagner group got what it wanted.=Out. Wagner and the Wagner group are not under Putin's control nor the Russian military.They are moving to Belarus where they do not have to partake in Putin's war anymore.They are free. Putin's "War" is a USA and NATO War because the Greedy people like Biden and the rest of the Global Elitists saw MONEY SIGNS. They placed Virus Study Lab sites like Wuhan in Ukraine, they are going against their word to keep Ukraine a buffer zone nation. When Russia put Nukes in Cuba we went crazy, well that fir al intense purposes is what the Greedy Elites are doing in Ukraine. By the way you have ZERO CLUE what Wagner is doing it might be a bit of fakery. Still as stated before, this has ZERO to do with God's Word, Russia is going to attack Israel very soon. Ukraine is losing the War badly. You are still listening to the liars in DC, LOL. The same people who lie 24/7/365 to us, and about President Trump. 56 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: It humiliated Putin showing that he doesn't have complete control and not everyone who once supported him still does. Putin gained absolutely nothing from this but he is grateful to live another day. You have zero clue what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 26, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Revelation Man said: Putin's "War" is a USA and NATO War because the Greedy people like Biden and the rest of the Global Elitists saw MONEY SIGNS. They placed Virus Study Lab sites like Wuhan in Ukraine, they are going against their word to keep Ukraine a buffer zone nation. When Russia put Nukes in Cuba we went crazy, well that fir al intense purposes is what the Greedy Elites are doing in Ukraine. By the way you have ZERO CLUE what Wagner is doing it might be a bit of fakery. Still as stated before, this has ZERO to do with God's Word, Russia is going to attack Israel very soon. Ukraine is losing the War badly. You are still listening to the liars in DC, LOL. The same people who lie 24/7/365 to us, and about President Trump. You have zero clue what is going on. Russia can't even beat Ukraine and you think Russia is going to attack a nuclear superpower like Israel. Your crazy. You can't even understand Ezekiel 38 is talking about people who lives without walls and are perfectly secure under God's power. That's not the same people who live in the pleasant land today who are dying everyday and have built walls surrounding themselves worrying about staying alive.The people in the he pleasant land today are not secure and not safe and God wouldn't rescue them from anyone because they reject the son of God and sin constantly .Half the prope in Israel say there is no God and the other half day Jesus is not the Christ.2 percent of Israel's population believes in Jesus and most of those are Arabs. You go ahead and believe the non believers are God's people of you wish but when Iran and ten other Muslim countries in the middle east bashes them in the heads then you will realize you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 26, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Revelation Man said: Putin's "War" is a USA and NATO War because the Greedy people like Biden and the rest of the Global Elitists saw MONEY SIGNS. They placed Virus Study Lab sites like Wuhan in Ukraine, they are going against their word to keep Ukraine a buffer zone nation. When Russia put Nukes in Cuba we went crazy, well that fir al intense purposes is what the Greedy Elites are doing in Ukraine. By the way you have ZERO CLUE what Wagner is doing it might be a bit of fakery. Still as stated before, this has ZERO to do with God's Word, Russia is going to attack Israel very soon. Ukraine is losing the War badly. You are still listening to the liars in DC, LOL. The same people who lie 24/7/365 to us, and about President Trump. You have zero clue what is going on. Uh oh,you may be right. Gog believes he can take Ukraine in a couple of days. https://www.businessinsider.com/vladimir-putin-russian-forces-could-take-kyiv-ukraine-two-days-2022-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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