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In the Holy words of God we see the mention of the book of life, which contains the names of “the living.”

But we also see the mention of other books, which the dead are judged out of as is also written.

Notice the first resurrection is to the “blessed and Holy”as is mentioned in Revelation 20:4-6 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.6 “Blessed and holy”is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”


Notice there are 2 separate resurrections mentioned in Revelation chapter 20. ….11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and “the books”were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, “according to their works.”

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.15 And whosoever was not found written in “the book of life”was cast into the lake of fire.


I would say the first resurrection is to “the living”because we are told they are “blessed and Holy”and also the second death has no power over them.

Notice it is“the righteous” who have their names written in the book of “the living”.

It is written in Psalm 69:28 “Let them be blotted out of the book of “the living,”and not be written with “the righteous.”

It is also written that Jesus said God is not a God of “the dead”, but of “the living”. 

And we see in Daniel 12:1 the first to be delivered are those whose names are written in God’s book “of life.”

And we know by the words of God that the first judgment begins with the house of God.

So there is an order of the judgment determined, the first is to the saints; as is also written in Daniel 7:22 and Daniel 12:2.

But notice we are told in Revelation 20:5the rest of the dead were not resurrected until after the thousand years are fulfilled. And also notice they are judged out of the “other books”according to their works. 

And notice only those who do not have their names written in the book “of life”are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death.

So you either have your name written in the book of life, or your name is blotted out of the book of life.

And we know by the words of God what gets your name blotted out of God’s book of life, and that is the mark of sin. 
 

Exodus 32:33 33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.”

So in order to keep your name from being blotted out of the book of life, you must have your sins blotted out of the other book; which I will call the book of the dead.

It is written in Nehemiah 4:5 “And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders.”

But God is able to blot out our transgressions…

Psalm 51:1
Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy loving kindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.

Psalm 51:9
Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities.

Isaiah 43:25
I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

Isaiah 44:22
I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.

Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted,that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So those are "blessed and holy”whose sins have been blotted out, as is also written.

I believe one of the other books contains all the sins that sinners have committed, that is those sins that have not been blotted out.

This in turn causes their names to be blotted out of the book of life. It is written in Psalm 109:13-14

“Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the Lord; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.”

And we read in Jeremiah 18:23 “Yet, Lord, thou knowest all their counsel against me to slay me: forgive not their iniquity, neither blot out their sin from thy sight, but let them be overthrown before thee; deal thus with them in the time of thine anger.”

So because of their sins, their names are blotted out of the book of life.

This again confirms what “the mark”of the man/beast is because those who worship the red Dragon and the beast image by serving sin do not have their names written in God’s book of Life.

It is written in Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the face of the earth shall worship him, “whose names are not written in the book of life”of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

I believe one of the other books mentioned contains the words and law of God, by which God shall judge the world. Just as Christ is the Word of God by which all the world shall be judged.

Notice what Jesus says here….John 5:22-29

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death “unto life.”

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have “done good,”unto the resurrection “of life;”and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”


Paul said in Romans 2:12 “For as many as have sinned without the law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.”

And we are also told that there is One Lawgiver who is able to save and to destroy; and that One Law giver is Christ.

Now even though no flesh shall be justified by the works of the law, this does not mean that those who have their names written in the book of life are not required to overcome and walk in righteousness.

It is written in Revelation 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”


We either produce good fruit unto Life by serving righteousness, or fruit unto death by serving sin. 
 

Romans 7:5 “For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins,which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.” 

And the opposite fruit is shown here in Romans 6:22 “But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.”

But the only way we can bear good fruit is by abiding in Christ as Jesus said in John 15:4 “Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.”

When we overcome we get the victory over the “mark of sin,”and we also get the victory over the name, which is “Death.”

And this victory is only achieved by having faith in Jesus Christ, and by His sacrifice for our sins we have the forgiveness of sin; that is to say we have our sins “blotted out.”

And when we are born again from above we are then given a new white garment and a new name which pertains to “the living,”even the name of Life that is found in Christ; which is The Lord our Righteousness.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 3:12
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 

Keep your garments clean from the “mark” and stain of sin.
 

Be good and be blessed.

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Not sure where I heard this, but I heard someone recently state that all human's names are written in the Book of Life from birth. And if they are then covered by the blood of the Lamb and therefore saved, then their names are not blotted out. 


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29 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Not sure where I heard this, but I heard someone recently state that all human's names are written in the Book of Life from birth. And if they are then covered by the blood of the Lamb and therefore saved, then their names are not blotted out. 

Sounds like the false doctrine of Universalism.

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14 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Sounds like the false doctrine of Universalism.

Hmmm, why do you think that?  To my understanding Universalism says everyone is saved in the end, but this speaker was saying all people start out that way - then their names get blotted out of the Book of Life if they don't accept Christ.

But there's John 3:18 that says, "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."  So not sure how this lines up with that . . .

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35 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Not sure where I heard this, but I heard someone recently state that all human's names are written in the Book of Life from birth. And if they are then covered by the blood of the Lamb and therefore saved, then their names are not blotted out. 

That's a widespread teaching based on this:

Psa 69:27-28  Add iniquity to their iniquity, And let them not come into Your righteousness. 
Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, And not be written with the righteous. 

Rev 3:4-5  You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.  (5)  He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

The letter to Sardis includes a call to repentance for the following reason:

Rev 3:1  "And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, 'These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

Here we have a contrast:

#Those named for living because of works whilst actually dead, spiritually

with

#Those who have not defiled their garments and walk with Christ in white as overcomers whose names are never blotted from the Book of Life.

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1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

Not sure where I heard this, but I heard someone recently state that all human's names are written in the Book of Life from birth. And if they are then covered by the blood of the Lamb and therefore saved, then their names are not blotted out. 

It would be scriptural to say that those born again of the Spirit have their names written there.

Those who abide and overcome maintain that status.

32 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Rev 3:4-5  You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy.  (5)  He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

 


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1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

Hmmm, why do you think that?  To my understanding Universalism says everyone is saved in the end, but this speaker was saying all people start out that way - then their names get blotted out of the Book of Life if they don't accept Christ.

But there's John 3:18 that says, "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."  So not sure how this lines up with that . . .

I may have misunderstood your first post.  I thought you were saying everyone’s name is written in the book of life, therefore all would be saved.  But you were just saying from birth, they all start out that way.

I don’t agree with that either because we are all firstborn with a sin nature, which is why we are born under that condemnation “of sin.”  Just as it is written, we were “by nature”the children of wrath.

Also, think about this.  If we all had our names written in the book of life from natural birth, then why would we need to be born again of the Spirit and pass from death to Life? (spiritually speaking)

Now I do believe Gods “elect”have their names written in the book of Life from “before the foundation of the world.” As God knows whom He has chosen before they are born.

Notice ….

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain “from the foundation of the world.”
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life “from the foundation of the world,”when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”
 
So there seems to be some who have their names written in the book of life “before”the world began.
 
Notice God’s elect are chosen “before the foundation of the world.”
 

Ephesians 1:3-5

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3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him “before the foundation of the world,” that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having “predestinated us”unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,”

Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus “before the world began,”
 
So I do believe God’s “elect”have their names written in the book of Life even “before”they were born.

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2 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

So I do believe God’s “elect”have their names written in the book of Life even “before”they were born.

. . . And before their sins are blotted out, by your own reasoning.


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8 hours ago, Michael37 said:

. . . And before their sins are blotted out, by your own reasoning.

The reasoning is, God has the foreknowledge of those whom He has chosen, thus He knows the names that are written in His book of life.

God has the foreknowledge of both the vessels He made for destruction, and the vessels He made for glory.

Romans 9:21-24

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21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto “honour,”and another unto “dishonour?”

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the “vessels of wrath” fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the “vessels of mercy,” which he had “afore prepared unto glory,”

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

 


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4 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

The reasoning is, God has the foreknowledge of those whom He has chosen, thus He knows the names that are written in His book of life.

God has the foreknowledge of both the vessels He made for destruction, and the vessels He made for glory.

Romans 9:21-24

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21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto “honour,”and another unto “dishonour?”

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the “vessels of wrath” fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the “vessels of mercy,” which he had “afore prepared unto glory,”

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?”

 

These are the vessels of wrath.

Matthew 23:

34 Therefore, indeed, I send you prophets, wise men, and scribes: some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city, 35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 

36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Romans 9-11 should be read as a complete instruction from Paul to his generation. He is explaining the application of what is sometimes referred to as "remnant theology", i.e. why so many of his fellow countrymen were blinded to the truth. There need be more reference provided to extend this to the world.

Romans 11:1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life? 4 But what does the divine response say to him? I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal. 5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

After the destruction of the temple, this is the word of the Lord for Israel.

Romans 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Two temples, two judgments.

Isaiah 40:1 “Comfort, yes, comfort My people!”
Says your God.
2 “Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
That her warfare is ended,
That her iniquity is pardoned;
For she has received from the Lord’s hand
Double for all her sins.”

 

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