The fellowship of the Mystery

[Stewardofthemystery]

The fellowship of the mystery that was hid in God is this, that in the beginning God was in His Word (Christ); by which God created all things.  But the fellowship of the mystery is also that God was in Christ reconciling us unto himself by Jesus Christ; so that we also may be enjoined into this fellowship with the Father and His Son by having God and His Word (Christ) dwelling in us via the Holy Spirit of God.

 

Let's look at some scriptures to confirm this Mystery…

 

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:”

 

2 Corinthians 5:18-19 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”

God was in Christ, the Father was in the Son….

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.”
 

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” John 14:11 “Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”

And we also are to have fellowship with them….

Ephesians 3:3-6 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the

Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”

 

God and His Word (Christ) are also in us….

 

John 14:20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 17:11
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 17:21
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

We are enjoined into this fellowship by the Spirit of God…

1 Corinthians 12:13 “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.”

Ephesians 4:4 “There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;”

Enjoined in the fellowship with both the Father and His Word, or Son Jesus Christ…

1 Corinthians 1:9 “God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.”

1 John 1:1-7  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

 

4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

 

Amen

 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

Amen, there is the fellowship  the mystery between them, and also the mystery which pertains to Christ in us. I will just add this to your post, I had posted something on part of the upper portion of this earlier this week but I think it fits nicely. I tried avoiding verses you already posted but there some sprinkled about. Great things to look at! 

Okay, I will start here and sort of springboard off of it with Peter words, I think this makes for great practice too which is why I love these sorts of posts.

1 Peter 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
1 Peter 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Peter 1:6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and  full of glory:
1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
1 Peter 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at  the revelation of Jesus Christ

Now Paul's

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ,  according to  the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Romans 16:26-27 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

Col 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
Col 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Col 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Col 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily

Again, Peter on this part

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

And Paul also here

Ephes 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Ephes 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Ephes 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Ephes 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Peter speaking of..." these who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you"

Paul in the present... " If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward"

Peter speaking of the prophets which had the Spirit of Christ in them searching into what was signified to them, and the same prophesied of a time that the LORD would pour out his Spirit upon all flesh, and Paul tells them what not being in the flesh means by the same here

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. 
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

Jesus said,

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Next verse, "WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him"

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

The Word of life said, "It is I" HANDLE me and see

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: HANDLE me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

John says, "Our hands have HANDLED", of the Word of life

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have HANDLED, of the Word of life;

Next verse, the life was manifested

1 John 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you THAT eternal life, which WAS WITH the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

Jesus is THAT eternal life that WAS WITH the Father , and their fellowship is with the Father AND with his Son

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: 
and truly our fellowship is WITH the Father, AND WITH his Son Jesus Christ.

"WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him" John 14:23 

John 17:3 And THIS IS life eternal, that they might KNOW THEE the only true God, 
AND Jesus Christ, whom THOU hast sent.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may KNOW HIM that is true, and we are IN HIM that is true, EVEN IN HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, AND eternal life.

THAT eternal life, which WAS WITH the Father

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, 
BUT BY me.

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is IN HIS Son.

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Jesus said,

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

John 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

And that life is to be "in us" the same is also shown as a mystery

Col 1:26-27 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

There is the fellowship of the mystery between Father and Son even as there is the riches of the glory of this mystery of Christ in you.

It says, To wit, God was in Christ 

Jesus said, I am not alone, because the Father is with me John 16:32

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:  but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Jesus also said,

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

He prayed also that we would be one as he and the Father are one.

John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Both Father and His Son

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: 
and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

He that hath the Son hath the Father also

1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

To continue in the Son, and in the Father

1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Even the doctrine of Christ is not his own.

My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. (John 7:16-17)

I could have been laid out much better I think but I have been tired lately and that will inevitably show up in the obvious places. But I think there is enough to touch down on the same things in various other places as well.

Good thread, I don't like opening threads so I am glad you open up some interesting ones that leave the door open to comment more or less. 

Our God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ  richly bless you

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by AFlameOfFire

[Mr. M]

On 11/22/2023 at 7:15 AM, Stewardofthemystery said:

The fellowship of the mystery that was hid in God is this, that in the beginning God was in His Word (Christ); by which God created all things.  But the fellowship of the mystery is also that God was in Christ reconciling us unto himself by Jesus Christ; so that we also may be enjoined into this fellowship with the Father and His Son by having God and His Word (Christ) dwelling in us via the Holy Spirit of God.

 

Let's look at some scriptures to confirm this Mystery…

 

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:”

 

2 Corinthians 5:18-19 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”

God was in Christ, the Father was in the Son….

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.”
 

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” John 14:11 “Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.”

And we also are to have fellowship with them….

Ephesians 3:3-6 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the

Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”

 

God and His Word (Christ) are also in us….

 

John 14:20  At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 17:11
And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 17:21
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”

We are enjoined into this fellowship by the Spirit of God…

1 Corinthians 12:13 “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.”

Ephesians 4:4 “There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;”

Enjoined in the fellowship with both the Father and His Word, or Son Jesus Christ…

1 Corinthians 1:9 “God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.”

1 John 1:1-7  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

 

4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.”

 

Amen

 

@AFlameOfFire, @Stewardofthemystery

Manifestation of the Mystery.

Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

For everyone believe's all these things that you both have posted as they 

apply to themselves, but do they believe this for all?

 

1 hour ago, AFlameOfFire said:

Col 1:26-27 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

22 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

@AFlameOfFire, @Stewardofthemystery

Manifestation of the Mystery.

Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

For everyone believe's all these things that you both have posted as they 

apply to themselves, but do they believe this for all?

 

 

There's a few mysteries, one the fellowship between the Father and the Son and that which pertains to Christ in us right? And the scriptures speak of he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his.

I am not sure how you might mean believe this for all because there is also the mystery of iniquity which is let and it speaks of the manifestation of the children of God and the children of the devil

Considering the mystery of iniquity itself and also a manifestation of two spirits in two divisions it shows this

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by AFlameOfFire
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[Mr. M]

8 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

There's a few mysteries, one the fellowship between the Father and the Son and that which pertains to Christ in us right? And the scriptures speak of he that hath not the Spirit of Christ is none of his.

I am not sure how you might mean believe this for all because there is also the mystery of iniquity which is let and it speaks of the manifestation of the children of God and the children of the devil

Considering the mystery of iniquity itself and also a manifestation of two spirits in two divisions it shows this

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

 

The "fellowship" of the mystery means just that, and I am 

saying that the manifestation of that in truth among the beloved,

i.e. those whom you have fellowship with, is in Ephesians 5:21.

Earlier in the epistle, Paul wrote:

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit

in the bond of peace.

This should lead to 5:21.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Mr. M

[Mr. M]

16 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

I am not sure how you might mean believe this for all because there is also the mystery of iniquity which is let and it speaks of the manifestation of the children of God and the children of the devil

Considering the mystery of iniquity itself and also a manifestation of two spirits in two divisions it shows this

1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

No, I was not suggesting that we have fellowship with the devil's children.

That should have been obvious.

What fellowship is there between light and darkness?

2  Co 6:14-16

This was made clear from the OP

3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

And re-iterated by you

Both Father and His Son

1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: 
and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

So in summary, after all that has been cited, Ephesians 5:21,

if you believe that "Christ in you" is among the least of your fellowship.

1 Co 12:

22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no [h]schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Mr. M

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

2 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

No, I was not suggesting that we have fellowship with the devil's children.

That should have been obvious.

What fellowship is there between light and darkness?

2  Co 6:14-16

 

I wasn't suggesting that you were suggesting that at all, you titled your post, "Manifestation of the mystery"

and said, " "For everyone believe's all these things that you both have posted as they 

apply to themselves, but do they believe this for all?

Which is why I said I did not understand what you mean for all in the context of "manifestation of the mystery" which you highlighted, so  I figured that was your context but I have no idea about what you meant by it.

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

14 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

The "fellowship" of the mystery means just that, and I am 

saying that the manifestation of that in truth among the beloved,

i.e. those whom you have fellowship with, is in Ephesians 5:21.

Earlier in the epistle, Paul wrote:

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit

in the bond of peace.

This should lead to 5:21.

We sure try to, or else we can just use that little ignore feature (that the apostles did not have back in their day) and that works wonders too 

[Mr. M]

Just now, AFlameOfFire said:

I wasn't suggesting that you were suggesting that at all, you titled your post, "Manifestation of the mystery"

and said, " "For everyone believe's all these things that you both have posted as they 

apply to themselves, but do they believe this for all?

Which is why I said I did not understand what you mean for all in the context of "manifestation of the mystery" which you highlighted, so  I figured that was your context but I have no idea about what you meant by it.

Yes, and hopefully that has been clarified to mean all "in the fellowship",

as per the topic. The topic was not "all the mysteries mentioned in the NT",

just that pertains to our fellowship. If you are in true fellowship within

a group, then...Eph. 5:21. I don't get the complications of such a simple assertion.

[Mr. M]

Just now, AFlameOfFire said:

We sure try to, or else we can just use that little ignore feature (that the apostles did not have back in their day) and that works wonders too 

That is a dangerous proposition under the Anointing, which I do not believe

exists in an online forum. Again, I am referring to a true fellowship, i.e. in 

a home, like in the NT.