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[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Of course it is a party thing.  There is the EVIL one, the one you are considering re-joining, and there is the stupid one, which has been letting the EVIL one get away with everything.

I noticed you didn't answer any of my questions.  All were about what the EVIL party supports.  So go ahead and vote your conscience and go Dem.  

When the Tribulation occurs, it will function through a party.  The EVIL one.  I don't care what it will be called, but it will prophetically be OPPOSED to everything that is called God. 

2 Thess 2:4 - He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Anyone who thinks this refers to Trump isn't thinking straight.  Trump opposes everything that is EVIL.  

Biden is an empty vessel, supporting all the EVIL that we see in the EVIL party.  Trump proved himself as a real friend of Israel when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, in just months, when 5 presidents before him promised to do it, but all failed.  He did it in under $500,000 when all the other presidents estimated the cost to be somwhere in the billions.  

Trump is pro freedom, pro America, pro family.  He is anti communist/Marxist/socialist, anti crime.

Take your pick.

I did not answer your questions because you did not ask me any.

I made this thread about man  who  points to himself as though he were God.That is what this thread is about.Its not about your party or the other party.I am not a member  of a party.

Now the person I'm looking at in scripture gives Israel an army ,devides land ,and moves his embassy to Jerusalem.If you think those things are good and godly then I'm sure you will support such a person .If you believe those things are wrong then you would not support such a person.

 

As for my pick.I choose Christ.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Of course it is a party thing.  There is the EVIL one, the one you are considering re-joining, and there is the stupid one, which has been letting the EVIL one get away with everything.

I noticed you didn't answer any of my questions.  All were about what the EVIL party supports.  So go ahead and vote your conscience and go Dem.  

When the Tribulation occurs, it will function through a party.  The EVIL one.  I don't care what it will be called, but it will prophetically be OPPOSED to everything that is called God. 

2 Thess 2:4 - He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Anyone who thinks this refers to Trump isn't thinking straight.  Trump opposes everything that is EVIL.  

Biden is an empty vessel, supporting all the EVIL that we see in the EVIL party.  Trump proved himself as a real friend of Israel when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem, in just months, when 5 presidents before him promised to do it, but all failed.  He did it in under $500,000 when all the other presidents estimated the cost to be somwhere in the billions.  

Trump is pro freedom, pro America, pro family.  He is anti communist/Marxist/socialist, anti crime.

Take your pick.

PS

If you don't know what I mean by pointing to himself as though he were God .It's like this 

 

“I kept Israel safe, remember that. I kept Israel safe,” he said in a video posted to Truth Social. “Nobody else will, nobody else can, and I know all of the players.”

 

When God made a covenant with Israel ,he made it perfectly clear that if they do not keep his commandments and live by his judgements,then he will cause their enemies to overcome them and they will go into exile as seen on the day of the Lord.

If they keep his judgements ,then he will cause their enemies to flee before them.They wouldn't even need to defend themselves as seen after the millinium.

 

Now if Trump believes he is the only one who can keep Israel safe as he says,not only is that disrespecting God,it also opposes God if God sees fit to cause their enemies to overcome them.

According to scripture,the person who who puts them self in this position is consumed  at Christs coming.It also appears he causes his own kingdom to come under attack as well.

Edited February 19 by Shilohsfoal

[FreeGrace]

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I made this thread about man  who  points to himself as though he were God.

Though he has a big ego, so what?  He's NEVER even hinted at thinking he is God.

Now, Geo Soros, that's another story.  He really does think he is god.  One of the most evil men in the world, supporting all kinds of evil.

Trump is a highly successful businessman who proved that he knows how to run our country.  In spite of 4 years of unbelievable attacks, lies, etc, he did more for America than any other president in 8 years.

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

That is what this thread is about.Its not about your party or the other party.I am not a member  of a party.

And that's ok.  Like I agreed with another poster, we have an EVIL party and a stupid party.

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Now the person I'm looking at in scripture gives Israel an army ,devides land ,and moves his embassy to Jerusalem.

Could you let me take a peek at the verses you allude to, please?  All I'm aware of is the person (beast) in Scripture confirms a covenant with Israel.  

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

If you think those things are good and godly then I'm sure you will support such a person .If you believe those things are wrong then you would not support such a person.

As for my pick.I choose Christ.

He's not on the ballot.  If you don't want to vote, don't.  

However, I seriously doubt that Biden will be on the ballot.  More likely the idiot from Calif or Michele.  And the Dems are so desperate, they will probably make sure Trump won't be either.

So, we'll have another 4 years of the EVIL party.  Our votes won't matter.  Satan is getting his way, just as Scripture prophesies.  But that will end rather dramatically, as shown in Rev 20.  Can't wait to see that.

[FreeGrace]

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS

If you don't know what I mean by pointing to himself as though he were God .It's like this 

“I kept Israel safe, remember that. I kept Israel safe,” he said in a video posted to Truth Social. “Nobody else will, nobody else can, and I know all of the players.”

This has nothing to do with prophecy.  It is from a successful president speaking to the country, most of which are NOT believers anyway.  When he said "nobody else will or can, he was speaking of other humans, presidents, all of whom promised but failed to keep them.  He kept his promise.  

This isn't even close to prophesy of the beast.

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

When God made a covenant with Israel ,he made it perfectly clear that if they do not keep his commandments and live by his judgements,then he will cause their enemies to overcome them and they will go into exile as seen on the day of the Lord.

If they keep his judgements ,then he will cause their enemies to flee before them.They wouldn't even need to defend themselves as seen after the millinium.

Well, "after the Millennium" isn't even part of this discussion.  Because after the Millennium will be the eternal state.

Your comments refer to God's promise of His hand of discipline on Israel for disobedience.  And has nothing to do with what Trump did for them, or his support for them. 

btw, believers who don't support Israel are supporting Satan's plan to  destroy all of them.  Do you know why?

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Now if Trump believes he is the only one who can keep Israel safe as he says,not only is that disrespecting God,it also opposes God if God sees fit to cause their enemies to overcome them.

Again, it is absurd to think he was thinking he is better than God.  Maybe you just missed the FACT that while president he truly supported the first amendment and freedom of speech, including freedom of religion and defending all the unfair attacks against Christians.

Maybe you have been filled with the lying garbage of the lunatic left's fake news outlets.  They have been unrelenting in their lying against him, even suggesting he is like Hitler.  What garbage.

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

According to scripture,the person who who puts them self in this position is consumed  at Christs coming.It also appears he causes his own kingdom to come under attack as well.

Anyone who thinks Trump is the beast of Rev 13 is sadly deceived.  Just look at who so strongly opposes him.  The EVIL far left, who are definitely in Satan's camp.

During Trump's 4 years, the world had peace, and no one got out of line.  But look at things now.  Biden and the EVIL left are supporting Iran, who supports all the terrorists around the world, and Hamas, who attacked Israel.  

The world is in chaos within 3 years of Biden's term.  He has made it all worse.  

The Bible says that the beast (a/c) will unify the word and bring in a global one world government.  Who supports that?  Biden, Dems, most of the world's leaders, and even RINO republicans.  And all of them resist Trump.

He's not the evil man you've been deceived to believe.  But it doesn't matter.  Prophecy will unfold just as Scripture says.  

[Neighbor]

16 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

As another poster has pointed out, there are 2 parties, the EVIL one and the STUPID one.  The evil one gets away with anything, and the stupid one seems not to notice, mostly.

 

I think that poster may have been myself quoting my favorite senator of all time, Everett Dirksen. I so used to love it when he and John McCain would be on C-Span at the same time. My own questions of them got through several times on C-Span and they were just so interesting to hear respond thoughtfully to all that had inquiries.

This time around I just don't know if I can vote my usually Republican party line top to bottom, as my party seems to have left the building for fear of Trump-ism.

The idea that my own grandkid will be fighting off Russian invasion ( Likely at much of Europe) soon because the Republicans of today refused to fund weapons for Ukraine is just intolerable a thought. One that overrides all the Democrat's evil nonsense.

I used to call them the Demoncrats but  the then head mod at WCF deleted that term, saying I could not call them Demoncrats. To me they are what I called them, and yet it seems the stupid party of which I am a (Financially) contributing member  doesn't have a brain at all.

It all does point out that my hope certain is in my Lord and savior Yeshua alone. In that I can take much solace and have much joy within my heart. As the Gaither song goes, hold on my child joy comes in the morning-

[Neighbor]

BTW- Thinking about it our younger USA Presidents did not do all that well as compared to our very oldest ones. I am 80 myself and could be presidential material if all one needs is a still functioning brain.

Now wisdom, that does come with age and experiences of lifetimes. The serious tactical battle planning error of a young President back in 1961 still haunts us all to this day.

Had Nixon beat Kennedy and followed Eisenhower's plan of attack upon Cuba there would not have been a Bay Of Pigs invasion fiasco, and all of history for the USA and the entire continent would be very different today.

The Monroe Doctrine failed then, under a young President, and the USA lost controlling influence over all of the Americas. Now it is a free for all  including at our own borders; north, south, and all the seacoasts.

 

Added post script: He (God) makes nations great, and destroys them;
He enlarges nations, and guides them.
 He takes away the understanding of the chiefs of the people of the earth,
And makes them wander in a pathless wilderness.
 They grope in the dark without light,
And He makes them stagger like a drunken man. -From Job 12

[FJK]

7 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

The Monroe Doctrine failed then, under a young President, and the USA lost controlling influence over all of the Americas.

IIRC, the Monroe Doctrine was being used at that time to justify keeping Soviet nuclear missile installations out of  Cuba.

Since there aren't any there to this day I'd say it was successful.

[FreeGrace]

35 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I think that poster may have been myself quoting my favorite senator of all time, Everett Dirksen. I so used to love it when he and John McCain would be on C-Span at the same time. My own questions of them got through several times on C-Span and they were just so interesting to hear respond thoughtfully to all that had inquiries.

I'm starting to quote him as well.

35 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

This time around I just don't know if I can vote my usually Republican party line top to bottom, as my party seems to have left the building for fear of Trump-ism.

Why all the worry over Trump anyway?  His 4 years of huge success in spite of all the lying and deception toward him by the far left only shows how smart he is.   It is the permanent party in Washington DC that is so scared of him that they are doing everything they can to keep him off the ballot, including illegal things.

Did you read the questions I asked.  That should guide your voting.  

35 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

The idea that my own grandkid will be fighting off Russian invasion ( Likely at much of Europe) soon because the Republicans of today refused to fund weapons for Ukraine is just intolerable a thought. One that overrides all the Democrat's evil nonsense.

Hardly.  Ukraine has no effect on our national security.  However, our totally OPEN borders absolutely does.  The Dems are actively destroying our country.

35 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

I used to call them the Demoncrats but  the then head mod at WCF deleted that term, saying I could not call them Demoncrats. To me they are what I called them, and yet it seems the stupid party of which I am a (Financially) contributing member  doesn't have a brain at all.

That is why there is the EVIL party and the stupid party.  The Dems are Satan's "useful idiots", a term used by Russian communists of those they have deceived into supporting their ideas and policies.

And all of this plays right into the hand of prophecy.  Satan is the master deceiver and he has deceived the whole world.

1 John 5:19 - We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

Rev 12:9 - The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

We are very very close to the Tribulation, if not already in it!

 

[Neighbor]

12 minutes ago, FJK said:

IIRC, the Monroe Doctrine was being used at that time to justify keeping Soviet nuclear missile installations out of  Cuba.

Since there aren't any there to this day I'd say it was successful.

Yeah sure. The USA gave up it's Nuclear bases at Turkey to get  those Russian ships to turn around.

It now has almost no influence upon  it's own hemisphere.

[FJK]

5 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

It now has almost no influence upon  it's own hemisphere.

I think that is an exaggeration, we still have much more influence over our hemisphere than anyone else which still makes the most powerful and influential nation in it.

We are losing influence in it today, but that certainly doesn't stem from anything related to the use of the Monroe doctrine in 1960.  It has to do with growth in the power of other nations, China in particular, in recent decades.

FWIW, I would prefer we just stay out of other countries business and take care of our own here at home first.  We really don't need anything from the rest of the world, we have all we need right here at home.