walter Posted February 23 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/04/2024 Status: Offline Share Posted February 23 How can a cup of coffee prove anything? Is it possible for any life to come about without assistance from any intelligent source? When I have a cup of coffee do I get assistance to make the coffee from nobody, meaning "all by itself" ? Every step to make the coffee I do myself, some of the steps I don't have to do because the coffee machine does it for me, but the coffee machine was designed and made by somebody. so does any step get done with the assistance of [ nobody ] even the tiniest step? [ No! ] Is there not any assistance that happens all by itself? [ No! ] Does the coffee cup show up on the counter by itself? does the spoon show up so you can stir the coffee? Does anything show up all by itself? Does anything get done in the process of making a cup of coffee? Does anything happen all by itself? If a billion years of time passed would the sugar or cream ever get into the coffee cup "all by itself" ? No! A human being is very complex. If we can't even get sugar in our coffee cup all by itself, How does the oxygen cycle exist? The water cycle exist? Every life on Earth? Gravity? You name it? If you ever want to know what Life on Earth would look like without "Any" assistance just look at any other planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted February 23 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,104 Content Per Day: 9.70 Reputation: 13,591 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 23 Welcome Walter. Glad to have you here. Your statements would be affirming the bible. We could talk more after you post in the main area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter Posted February 23 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/04/2024 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 23 how do I get to the main area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 23 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 958 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,646 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,084 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, walter said: Is it possible for any life to come about without assistance from any intelligent source? Seems to me the question should not be can it be possible, but instead has it happened. God is not proved as a creator nor the creator one way or another by either possible answer. Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted February 24 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,046 Content Per Day: 1.61 Reputation: 592 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24 It seems obvious to me that a creator is the ONLY possiblity. Despite many science experiments, no one has ever seen life come from non-life, nor has anyone seen order come from disorder. Those who claim God's existence cannot be proven is like someone choosing their eyes very tightly so they can claim they don't see anything, therefore it must not be there. It takes ALOT of faith to deny the mountains of evidence for God. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Adrien Posted February 24 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 470 Content Per Day: 4.43 Reputation: 404 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/22/2024 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24 Physicists arrive to a place in their research that reveal order in the universe. Laws that exist and sequences that are not random, opposing chaos. I find this fascinating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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