The Way Of The Lord Is Righteousness And Judgment

[Mr. M]

Genesis 18:19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him,

and they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do righteousness and judgment; that the Lord may bring

upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

 

2 Samuel 8:15 And David reigned over all Israel; and David

executed righteousness and judgment unto all his people.

 

Psalm 103:6 The Lord executes righteousness and judgment

for all that are oppressed.

 

Psalm 106:3 Blessed are they that keep judgment,

and he that does righteousness at all times.

 

How are we expected to walk in righteousness and judgment,

while being taught to "judge not"?

Here is the commandment of the Lord, combining the two.

John 7:24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

 

And again,

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, 

for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself;

for you who judge practice the same things.

 

To walk in lawlessness...

James 2:

8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, 

“You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 

9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin,

and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 

 

The conclusion of the matter...

1 Corinthians 11:

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord,

that we may not be condemned with the world.

 

Galatians 6:3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something,

when he is nothing, he deceives himself.

 

1 Corinthians 2:

15 But he who is spiritual judges all things,

yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 

16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord 

that he may instruct Him?” 

But we have the mind of Christ.

To be led by the Spirit is to keep judgement,

and do righteousness at all times.

[Eman_3]

Have you ever learned about the Euthyphro Dilemma? One interpretation is "is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just".

[Michael37]

17 minutes ago, Eman_3 said:

Have you ever learned about the Euthyphro Dilemma? One interpretation is "is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just".

Good post @Eman_3. This is an excellent question to ponder.

Background:

Euthyphro, a Socratic dialogue written by Plato, takes place in the weeks leading up to the trial of Socrates (399 BC). The dialogue unfolds between Socrates and Euthyphro, a priest who claims to understand the definition of piety. Here are the key points:

1. Setting: The conversation occurs at the porch of the archon basileus (the ‘king magistrate’) in Athens.
2. Context: Socrates is preparing to face charges of impiety brought by Meletus. Euthyphro, on the other hand, is prosecuting his own father for chaining a worker who later died.
3. Purpose: Socrates seeks Euthyphro’s help to define piety, which will aid him in his courtroom defense. If Euthyphro provides a satisfactory definition, Socrates can use it.
4. The Dilemma: The dialogue revolves around the question: Is something pious because the gods approve of it, or do the gods approve of it because it is pious? This unresolved issue has sparked extensive theological and meta-ethical debates throughout history¹.

In summary, Euthyphro grapples with the nature of piety, justice, and the gods, while Socrates challenges his definitions and explores the essence of this fundamental concept². You can read the full dialogue here³. [Copilot]

[Willa]

We are supposed to judge so to evaluate, but we are not to pass judgement upon to condemn.

Luk 6:37  "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Act 15:19  Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to 

1Co 10:15  I speak as to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say.

 

[Mr. M]

8 minutes ago, Willa said:

We are supposed to judge so to evaluate, but we are not to pass judgement upon to condemn.

Leadership must act on that evaluation with all humility.

Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault,

ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness;

considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, 

comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, 

who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 

2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. 

Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, 

but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears,

they will heap up for themselves teachers; 

4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

Both by an unwillingness to exercise this authority and a refusal to 

receive such correction, this word is being fulfilled in our time.

[Mr. M]

16 minutes ago, Willa said:

We are supposed to judge so to evaluate, but we are not to pass judgement upon to condemn.

Note: the emphasis of the OP is on self-evaluation...

[Mr. M]

6 hours ago, Eman_3 said:

Have you ever learned about the Euthyphro Dilemma? One interpretation is "is good and just because God wills it or whether God wills it because it is good and just".

Not really on topic for the OP, 

but how would you apply the scriptures

that have been cited to this "dilemma".

7 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Here is the commandment of the Lord, combining the two.

John 7:24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

 

And again,

Romans 2:1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, 

for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself;

for you who judge practice the same things.

 

To walk in lawlessness...

James 2:

8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, 

“You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 

9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin,

and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 

 

The conclusion of the matter...

1 Corinthians 11:

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord,

that we may not be condemned with the world.

 

[Mr. M]

30 minutes ago, Willa said:

We are supposed to judge so to evaluate, but we are not to pass judgement upon to condemn.

Luk 6:37  "Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Act 15:19  Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to 

1Co 10:15  I speak as to sensible people; judge for yourselves what I say.

 

James 4:

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.

11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother 

and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law.

But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 

12 There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. 

Who are you to judge another?

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Not really on topic for the OP, 

I thought it was a direct result of the Thread Title and OP, inquiring into the determination of righteousness and judgment.

[Mr. M]

4 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I thought it was a direct result of the Thread Title and OP, inquiring into the determination of righteousness and judgment.

Then I would ask you the same question I asked @Eman_3, how would you apply the scriptures used in the OP to the dilemma?