SavedOnebyGrace Posted April 4 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,059 Content Per Day: 14.39 Reputation: 5,193 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4 According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted April 4 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said: According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? Ge. 1:1, In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Darkness, for God only knows how long. Must have been every cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted April 5 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,059 Content Per Day: 14.39 Reputation: 5,193 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, HAZARD said: Ge. 1:1, In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Darkness, for God only knows how long. Must have been every cold Must have been very cold, ice cold! There's a lot we don't know about the prehistory of this solar system and earth in particular. From a scientific standard, there have been magnetic pole shifts, continental shifts, mass creation of species and mass extinctions, etc. All that in one verse, Genesis 1:1. I'd like to hear how YEC explain that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NConly Posted April 5 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,336 Content Per Day: 2.77 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5 At the very least 50% of what science teaches is theory not fact they can prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted April 5 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,824 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,813 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5 7 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said: According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? The Ice Age would not have been in Genesis 1. It would have been somewhere after the cataclysmic Great Flood - after the climate changed and huge animals began to go extinct. God would not have created animals on the sixth day and then killed them the same day. The evidence for what gigantic glaciers did to landmasses is great and had to have happened post Flood. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 5 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.71 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5 10 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said: According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? Have you thought what caused an ice age? Why should a warm planet suddenly become covered in ice, and why should that ice ever melt? Both answersingenesis and creation.com have articles that examine this. In a nut shell. The breakup of the tectonic plates durring the global flood produced enormous volcanic activity. We see thousands of miles of volcanic rock. This warmed the sea, while the volcanic aerosol particles cooled the atmosphere and land. Dry winds over warm seas causes evaporation, most air rising over cold land causes precipitation, snow, cold winters and cooler summers would permit snow to remain and build up until there were sheets of ice. As volcanic activity settled down, subsided, the aerosols would be washed out of the atmosphere allowing the land to warm up while the seas would cool down, resulting in less evaporation, less precipitation, less snow and I e and a retreat of the ice. The flood explains why the ice age began and ended. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted April 5 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted April 5 14 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said: According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? There is no ice age recorded in Genesis 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted April 5 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,453 Content Per Day: 8.13 Reputation: 615 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5 14 hours ago, Jayne said: 21 hours ago, SavedOnebyGrace said: According to Genesis 1, when was the Ice Age? The Ice Age would not have been in Genesis 1. Interesting question! The plural of 'water' in v.2, in the Hebrew, refers to melting water. v.2 - The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Red words would explain a deep ice cover over the earth, resulting in the darkness. The word "hovering" is: NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin a prim. root Definition to hover NASB Translation hovers (1), moving (1). Some Hebrew scholars say this is describing the process by which birds hatch their eggs, through warmth. So the Spirit of God was melting the ice pack, to prepare for the restoration. The word "tohu" occurs 10 times in the OT, 3 times with "wabohu". The following words are how "tohu" was translated elsewhere in the OT: chaos, desolation, futile, waste place (3), confusion, formless (2). But Jer 4:23 cannot be ‘formless’ since it describes the total destruction of land by a besieging army that destroys nations (from context). So should be 4 x for “wasteland/place”. None of these words can be applied to original perfect creation of the earth. ALL of these translations describe very negative conditions. And all objects HAVE form. No object lacks form. That was a terrible translation. 14 hours ago, Jayne said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Wizard Posted April 6 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 773 Content Per Day: 0.83 Reputation: 327 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/05/1962 Share Posted April 6 The Bible for the first 4,000 years deals with a section of the middle east where the people of Israel lived. Precious little is said about the rest of the world. Kings from the East are mentioned. Famine, droughts and earthquakes are mentioned, but what was happening to the polar regions or the North American continent is never addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedOnebyGrace Posted April 6 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,059 Content Per Day: 14.39 Reputation: 5,193 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/30/2023 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 6 20 hours ago, Jayne said: The Ice Age would not have been in Genesis 1. It would have been somewhere after the cataclysmic Great Flood - after the climate changed and huge animals began to go extinct. God would not have created animals on the sixth day and then killed them the same day. The evidence for what gigantic glaciers did to landmasses is great and had to have happened post Flood. If you can trust the scientific research of ice cores, it dates Noah's Flood to the time approximately coinciding with the biblical time period, within the margin of error or biblical interpretation of the text. This is a good confirmation of Noah's Flood and the science relating to the analysis of ice cores. So what else can we determine? There was a Great Flood at the end of the Last Ice Age 12,900 years associated with the Younger-Dryas Catastrophic Floods of 12,000 years ago. I routinely call this Lucifer's Flood but that is speculation on my part. There seems to be about 6000 years between these global floods. But God has said He would not destroy Earth again by floods. I believe Him. There are flood narratives worldwide. Some of these appear to be older than the biblical account, maybe even 12,000 years old. I'm not sure what to make of that. I don't like ignoring evidence. 18 hours ago, Who me said: Have you thought what caused an ice age? Why should a warm planet suddenly become covered in ice, and why should that ice ever melt? Both answersingenesis and creation.com have articles that examine this. In a nut shell. The breakup of the tectonic plates durring the global flood produced enormous volcanic activity. We see thousands of miles of volcanic rock. This warmed the sea, while the volcanic aerosol particles cooled the atmosphere and land. Dry winds over warm seas causes evaporation, most air rising over cold land causes precipitation, snow, cold winters and cooler summers would permit snow to remain and build up until there were sheets of ice. As volcanic activity settled down, subsided, the aerosols would be washed out of the atmosphere allowing the land to warm up while the seas would cool down, resulting in less evaporation, less precipitation, less snow and I e and a retreat of the ice. The flood explains why the ice age began and ended. Actually, neither Noah's Flood nor Lucifer's Flood have anything to do with plate tectonics. The floods from 12,900 years ago associated with the Younger-Dryas Catastrophe were the melting of the polar ice caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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