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We all learned in school that decaying plants and dead animals were buried under sediment,  and then with time and pressure became a sludge made up mainly of carbon and hydrogen, when then turned into oil.  It's an interesting theory, but like many theories that get taught in our schools as proven facts, it isn't true at all.

The theory of “fossil fuel” is just a theory. There is no evidence of crude oil/gases being
created by decaying creatures or plants. What do we really know? We do know that
Titan has carbon based oil. This has been proven. We do know that the universe has
multitudes of gases which are carbon based in the absence of plants/animals. The theory of fossil fuel is yet another erroneous conclusion that the lemmings blindly adhere to with little or no objective analysis.

Oil doesn’t come from living things. All you need to do is study the Russian research since the 1950s to figure that out. It is an artificial theory designed to apply the label of limited resources to keep the price artificially high. Dig past the fossil layer? Oil. Dig into the bedrock? Oil. Dig under the ocean floor? Oil. Dig in shale? Oil. Time to wake up to reality.

Wrong! Oil does not come from any living thing. This is a lie that was formed during a convention in Geneva in the late 1800s in order to have us feel that it is very limited and running out. Science has bought into it, just as they have "macro-evolution."  source

I have contended for many years that oil production is an abiotic process that requires neither time, nor decaying plankton, nor evolutionary processes.  God created the earth with all the resources we would ever need, including oil, gold, silver, copper, diamond and precious gems, coal, natural gas, silicon, lithium and likely other resources we haven't even discovered yet.  Oil is discovered in landlocked areas; under deserts; under permafrost and even on Saturn's moon Titan.  Oil from life?  Not possible.  All of our resources come from one source: God.

 

 

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That source seems like a lot of different voices making various claims including the ones you included, but many others contrary so I'm not sure that is a particularly great source.


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A paleontologist explains why fossils didn't take millions of years.

The biblical view of the creation of all life forms and a sudden burial that turned them into fossils during a global flood actually fits better with the sudden appearance of diverse fossils as apparent in the Cambrian Explosion. During the biblical Creation week, God created multiple groups of organisms (diversity), all of them very complex. According to Genesis 3, the environment Adam and Eve encountered outside Eden was rather different from the one inside the garden, suggesting that God had placed animals and plants in many parts of the world. Based on the type of sediment that makes up the Cambrian layer, the type of organisms and the trace fossils like burrows and trail marks, palaeontologists interpret the Cambrian fossils as representing fauna that lived on the bottom of ancient seas. This is compatible with a worldwide flood washing sedimentary rock into the pre-flood oceans and burying organisms living on the bottom.

Marine animals appear in the lower layers of the fossil record. Such include sponges, trilobites and other arthropods, molluscs and many kinds of sea worm among others. Those organisms are called invertebratesbecause they lack a backbone. Fossils of vertebrates (animals with a backbone) like fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals occur in layers above in a succession that—according to palaeontology—suggests a gradual appearance over many millions of years. However, a closer look at both the fossils and the characteristics of the layers where they are found suggests an interpretation that doesn’t invoke millions of years may better explain how they were formed.

The different groups of vertebrate appear in succession but each group appears abruptly, not gradually. A gradual appearance would show intermediate forms between, for example, fish and amphibians, or reptiles and mammals, and between different groups of invertebrates. Also, the different groups of plants appear without gradual variation or connections among them. Sudden appearance is better explained in the biblical model of Creation in which multiple forms of animals and plants were created “according to their kind,” without intermediate or transitional forms.  source

There are those who believe that oil can be produced by biotic and abiotic means.  Reasons for abiotic oil production include:

Hydrocarbons are found in the line of arcs which are deep-seated crustal structural features.
Hydrocarbon areas tend to be rich at many depths.
Deep hydrocarbons show no biological evidence (for example, optical activity or disparity between the even- and odd-numbered alkanes).
Methane is found where a biological origin is not probable.
There is no link between the hydrocarbon characteristics across different areas of the world with the geological column.
There is associated helium (up to 10% in some U. S. reservoirs) alongside the hydrocarbons.
Many gas reservoirs, particularly in Germany, contain considerably in excess of 50% nitrogen (Barnard and Cooper 1983), which is nonbiological.
Other reservoirs in the U. S. contain consistent ratios of helium and nitrogen (Osborne 1986) which are also non-biological.
There are also many Russian dry gas reservoirs which not only contain 20% nitrogen, but also 30% hydrogen (Smith et al 2005).
There are also the thorny issues of mercury, vanadium and chromium within oils. Though they are present in North Sea oils, they are at relatively lower concentrations compared with world oil. These heavy metals are poisonous to life, but their presence calls into question both models for the origin of oil. 
source

In my opinion, the primary evidence that the commonly taught idea of fossil fuels is incorrect stems from the fact that the earth is NOT billions of years old.  However, things like gold, diamonds, coal, oil, gemstones, natural gas, silicon, lithium, copper and iron were in the earth from the time of creation.  Some call this Mature Universe Theory.  I consider it simply the best way to understand what the Bible teaches us.

When properly understood, MUT explains why there "may be" things with actual age, older than 6,000-10,000 years old. God made the universe with wisdom (Prov. 8:23-27), which includes making things with maturity, not just with the appearance of age, but real actual age. When God created, he not only created the sun, moon, stars, plants, tree, animals, etc., but all the complex intersecting processes functionally complete right from the start. In other words, they were able to fulfill the purpose for which they were created in the Day they were created. God's evaluation of his own work was that his completed creation was "very good" (Gen. 1:31). God spoke and a mature universe happened (Psa. 33:6-9).

MUT is clearly the teaching of Scripture. For instance:

(1) Mankind: Adam was not created as a mere infant, but having real age. He could:

(a) Rule: Adam understood God's blessing and was old enough to rule the earth/universe, and not eat Gerber's Baby food (Gen. 1:29-30).

(b) Work: Adam was placed in the Garden to care for it, to work in it (Gen. 2:15).

(c) Reason: Adam knew the difference between the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the other trees in the Garden (Gen. 2:16-17 ).

(d) Name the Animals: Where did Adam receive his Ph.D.? He didn't, he was created mature, as seen in the fact that his I.Q. had to be exceptionally high as he named the animals (Gen. 2:19).

(e) Witness: After Adam awoke from his divine-induced sleep (Gen. 2:21), he literally saw a mature woman (Gen. 2:22), whom he later named Eve (Gen. 3:20). He did not mistakenly think that she had already actually lived for some 20, 25, or 30 year period (she wasn't among those he previously named, cf. Gen. 2:19), but he himself witnessed a mature Creation; Adam literally witnessed the creation of Eve with actual age.

(f) Get Married: Adam and Eve were old enough to be married (Gen. 2:18, 20-25).

Therefore, Adam was created by God with real age, he had the ability to work, he had a matured I.Q., he could maturely reason, and he even married. He himself was a witness to the Mature Creation of Eve.  source

The book of Genesis is clear.  Everything God created was fully mature.  Tree bearing fruit existed on day three.  Adult elephants existed on day six.  Nothing needed to age, nothing evolved, and billions of years were not necessary to make the world ready to support the life that God created to inhabit the earth.

Thus, there are no fossil fuels.


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By the way, the first mention of the use of oil (not crude) was around 1700 BC in Genesis 31.


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6 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

 

The book of Genesis is clear.  Everything God created was fully mature.  Tree bearing fruit existed on day three.  Adult elephants existed on day six.  Nothing needed to age, nothing evolved, and billions of years were not necessary to make the world ready to support the life that God created to inhabit the earth.

Thus, there are no fossil fuels.

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What does it matter how old it is? Why can't it be formed by the flood?


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6 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

By the way, the first mention of the use of oil (not crude) was around 1700 BC in Genesis 31.

That is after the flood.


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https://www.icr.org/article/chemistry-oil-explained-by-flood-geology/

 

"Many working scientists, finding that it (creationism) does not help in ordering thought or designing experiments, are tempted to dismiss it as rubbish."

 

Reminds me of:

An elder in the Pentecostal Church at Moss, Norway, Martin Andersen, heard the following prophecy in 1937, in Moss:

'When oil comes out of the North Sea and along the Norwegian coast, things will begin to happen, and the return of Jesus is approaching.'

When these words had been proclaimed, people stood up in the congregation and asked the man to sit down and not speak such nonsense. 

 

https://prophecytoday.uk/study/prophetic-insights/item/189-two-prophecies-about-europe-1968-1937.html

 

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3 hours ago, RdJ said:

What does it matter how old it is? Why can't it be formed by the flood?

It could have been.  It need not have been.  For one thing, there is a LOT of oil underground.  It's hard to believe there was that much plankton and plants that could have been turned into hydrocarbons.  However God chose to do things, He certainly didn't need millions of years to get it done.

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1 hour ago, RV_Wizard said:

It could have been.  It need not have been.  For one thing, there is a LOT of oil underground.  It's hard to believe there was that much plankton and plants that could have been turned into hydrocarbons.  However God chose to do things, He certainly didn't need millions of years to get it done.

In that link I posted from the 80s he said it could also be from animals. Now they say only plankton. I'll look up why they say that. I still have the idea that it's dead giants and dinosaurs.

 

https://bnugent.org/the-origin-of-petroleum-proof-of-young-earth-and-bible-accuracy/

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The only way dinosaurs could become oil would be for a quick death with no predators to earth them and then encasement in sediment under tremendous pressure.  Since many reject the flood, there is no way to pretend dinosaurs were included.  Given the amount of minerals, jewels, gold and other precious commodities in the earth, intelligent people can only conclude that these were put there by God for man to use when he was ready to discover them.  Whether He put them there via a great flood, or created the world with them inside, ultimately only the Creator knows.

As I have stated, this is my opinion based on the things I have learned over the years.  The Bible only tells us that God is omniscient.  He knew what you and I would be discussing before Adam drew a breath.  I can tell you that we will never run out of oil.  What we are dangerously low on, however, is faith. 

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