Worthy News: Robertson: God May Smite Down Town That Voted Out Anti-Ev

[other one]

Self appointed hammer of God. He needs to quit telling everybody what God is gonna do to specific geograghical locations and worry about his race horse (yes...used for gambling). I'm not so sure God is a "lets go down to the horse track and make a wager" type of God. Pat has feet of clay like the rest of us and he hasn't the authority to pronounce God's punishment.

Dan

Two points:

1. He was not pronouncing God's judgement on anyone, just giving them some advice.

2. Where is the scripture that says one can't own a horse and make a wager or two if one has the money to use as entertainment or as a business investment? I can't think of anywhere it says that. help me out to understand.

[eagleswings]

at least pat roberston has guts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which i don,t see many self proclaiming christians have, thier too afraid of not being liked i suppose...... hence the church has no kind of voice, and when one does stand up and proclaim truth ohhhhhhh how the so called christian masses arise to critisize and people wonder why no wants to go to "church" anymore............... what do they see......... a bunch of fighing mean people!!!! back biters gossipers and strife and jealousy...............and the bible says where these are is Every Evil Work......................

[dgolvach]

Self appointed hammer of God. He needs to quit telling everybody what God is gonna do to specific geograghical locations and worry about his race horse (yes...used for gambling). I'm not so sure God is a "lets go down to the horse track and make a wager" type of God. Pat has feet of clay like the rest of us and he hasn't the authority to pronounce God's punishment.

Dan

This response is typical of how liberals go about trying to win a baseless argument. You don't like what Roberson says, so instead of showing him to be wrong scripturally, you try to find a fault in him. Even if he did do something wrong, his statement is still true.

Also, since you have attacked him for owning a race horse used for gambling, I am assuming you believe gambling to be a sin. Could you show us the scripture and verse in the Bible that says gambling is a sin? I am not asking you this so much to defend gambling, but because you are making a charge that Roberson should be discredited for gambling. The Bible says that sin is the transgression of the law in 1 John 3:4. Romans 4:15 says, "For where no law is, there is no transgression." Unless you can find a scriptural basis that gambling is a sin, and Roberson transgressed God's laws by placing a bet, you have nothing on him.

I didn't say Pat was the anti-christ. I just said that perhaps he should quit acting as if God gave him devine revelation about the pending doom of certain locations. If you don't understand what gambling can do to a family or an individual perhaps you should open your eyes.

As for me being a liberal? LOL LOL LOL

"He that hastens to be rich hath an evil eye,

and considers not that poverty shall come upon him."

Proverbs 28:22

compiled by Diane Dew

STATISTICS /FACTS

At least 12 million Americans are compulsive gamblers. (Gamblers Anonymous)

One in 4 American men and 1 in 8 women plan to gamble in the next Super Bowl. (Gallup poll, "Psychology Today")

Two-thirds of Americans have gambled, and 80% approve of gambling as a means of collecting taxes. (Report by the Federal Commission on the Review of the National Policy Toward Gambling)

The average compulsive gambler has debts exceeding $80,000 (Dallas Morning News, 1/4/84)

"To gamble is to take a calculated risk for monetary or personal gain." (Dictionary of Pastoral Care and Counseling).

Gambling exploits the poor, as "the poor bet a much larger share of their income." (National Bureau of Economic Research)

Thirty to 50 percent of money collected by casinos annually comes from about 4 percent of the population.

Legalized gambling increases illegal gambling by 300 percent. (Organized Crime Section of the Department of Justice)

"Winning money is the most important reason why people say they visit a casino." (Survey in American Demographics, May 1997)

"Participation rates increase steadily and sharply as the number of legal types of gambling increases. Social betting more than doubles from 35% in states with no legal games to 72% in states with three legal types; the illegal gambling rate more than doubles from nine percent to 22%; and commercial gambling increases by 43%, from 24 to 67 percent." (The Final Report of the Commission on the Review of National Policy Toward Gambling, 1976)

Getting killed by lightning is seven times more likely than winning a million dollars in a state lottery. (Harper's, July 1983)

Only 40 cents of every lottery dollar goes to the state budget. Direct taxation costs only 1 cent on the dollar.

Crime rates for counties with casinos are 8% higher than the crime rates of counties without casinos. (Las Vegas Sun, 6/17/99)

Crime within 30 miles of Atlantic City rose by 107% in the nine years following the introduction of casinos to the area. (Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency, Aug. 1991)

The rate of compulsive gambling among teens is growing at twice the rate of that of adults. (Dr. Howard J. Shaffer, Director of the Harvard Medical School Center for Addiction Studies)

Crime rates in casino communities are 84% higher than the national average. (U.S. News & World Report, 1/15/96)

Pathological ("compulsive") gambling is recognized as a diagnosable mental disorder. (The American Psychiatric Asso. and the American Medical Asso.)

Nevada ranked first in crime rates among the 50 states in both 1995 and 1996. (FBI Uniform Crime Report statistics)

More money is spent on gambling than on elementary and secondary education. (Christianity Today, 11/25/91)

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"But ye who have forsaken the Eternal, ye who ignore his sacred hill, spreading tables to Good Luck, pouring libations to Fate, I make the sword your fate."

Isaiah 65:11

Moffat translation

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"Thou shalt not covet."

(Exodus 20:17)

The Hebrew word for covet is chamad, defined in Brown, Driver and Briggs' lexicon as a "bad sense of inordinate, ungoverned, selfish desire." It is the same word used for "desire" in Genesis 3:6 - "when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired (chamad) to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat...."

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Bible Study

on Covetousness

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QUOTES ON GAMBLING

Gambling:

"The winner's shout,

the loser's curse."

William Blake

"Gaming corrupts our dispositions, and teaches us a habit of hostility against all mankind."

Thomas Jefferson

"The best throw at dice is to throw them away."

Mark Twain

I. Get-rich-quick schemes are a hoax.

A. They bring poverty, not wealth.

Prov 28:22 (cp. Prov 22:16)

"He that hastens to be rich hath

an evil eye, and considers not

that poverty shall come upon him."

B. The divinely established means of "getting ahead" is by work.

Gen 2:15; 3:19

Exo 20:9

2 Thes 3:10, 11

Eph 4:28

Prov 6:6; 12:11; 20:4

II. The greed (covetousness) that motivates individuals to gamble is sin.

Ex 20:17

Prov 11:28; 15:16; 23:4-5

Gal 5:21

Eph 5:3-5

Phil 4:11-13

Col 3:5

1 Tim 6:6-11, 17-19

III. Gambling is destructive.

A. Spiritually. It affects our walk with God.

1. It indicates a lack of trust in God's ability to provide.

Mat 6:25-34

Luke 12:15

Heb 13:5

1 Tim 6:6-9

2. True riches are spiritual and eternal.

Phil 4:19 "riches in glory in Christ"

Jas 2:5 "rich in faith"

1 Tim 6:18 "rich in good deeds"

Eph 2:4 "rich in mercy"

3. We should look to God as our Source of supply:

Phil 4:19

Eph 3:20

4. Gambling expressly denies God's sovereignty and care.

Mat 10:30

Prov 3:5-6)

5. A form of covetousness, gambling violates the tenth commandment.

Exo 20:17

6. Christians are called to a walk of holiness (separation from the world).

Eph 5:3

1 Thes 5:22

7. Gambling destroys contentment.

I Tim. 6:6, 10

Col. 3:2

Jn 6:27

Matt. 16:26

B. Societally. Gambling destroys families and communities.

1. Gambling robs money from the family, for which parents have a responsibility to provide.

2 Cor 12:14

2 Thes 3:12

1 Tim 5:9

Prov 15:27

2. Gambling distorts our love for our neighbor, exploiting the most vulnerable members of society: the poor.

Phil 2:3-4

Zech 7:9-10

3. Gambling is a bad example to others.

1 Corin 10:31-33

4. Gambling encourages stealing, which increases court costs; stresses out marital relationships by burdening finances ("He who is greedy for gain troubles his own house..." Prov 15:27); and forces reliance upon public assistance, bankruptcy, etc.

C. Personally. Gambling is self-destructive.

1. Gambling destroys our work ethic.

Gen 2:15; 3:19

Exo 20:9

2 Thes 3:10, 11

Eph 4:28

Prov 6:6; 12:11; 20:4

2. Gambling is rooted in greed, the love and craving for money, which is "the root of all evil."

Mat 6:31

1 Tim 6:10

3. Gambling is addicting. God wants us to be free!

Rom 8:21

2 Corin 3:17

Gal 5:1, 13

1 Pet 2:16

2 Pet 2:19

Dan

[Fiosh]

Of course, sometimes the guy does make sense:

Pat Robertson Comments on the Election of Pope Benedict XVI

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va., April 20, 2005

[dgolvach]

My neighbor's dog just went potty in my front yard and I can't find my scooper. I suppose its devine retribution for questioning anything that St. Pat says. Afterall ...he is on TV! We should never question the statements of TV prophets!

" GOD MAY SMITE THEM DOWN" "DON'T BOTHER PRAYING TO GOD"

Does anybody understand whats wrong with this guy making such a statement? What about the faithful men, women and children (minority)who live in this town? Are they on God's smite list as well? Well...hmmmmm....I guess if good ol' Pat says so. After all...he is the head of the 700th club. As for him having guts? Its much easier for someone who will never have to worry a day about a roof over his head or if he will have enough $$$$$$$$ for himself or hid kids and grandkids ect. (not that thats a sin)to be brave. I don't hate the guy. I hate it when he starts calling for people's deaths and for God to smite down a town that has a liberal majority. It is very irresponsible .Hugo Chavez is a good example. Of course he is not the nicest fellow around but we still have to play ball with him. We get 15 to 17% of our oil from him. Its a very delicate situation at this time and Pat calling for his assassination does not help the situation. Millions of people who aren't as wealthy as Pat could be effected in a very negative way. Ask yourself...does Pat care? Robertson is on national TV and has a large audience. He needs to watch his public mouth and stop with the "thus sayeth the Lord" stuff and tend to his own glass house that we all have.

Dan

[TEXASGRANDMA]

My neighbor's dog just went potty in my front yard and I can't find my scooper. I suppose its devine retribution for questioning anything that St. Pat says. Afterall ...he is on TV! We should never question the statements of TV prophets!

" GOD MAY SMITE THEM DOWN" "DON'T BOTHER PRAYING TO GOD"

Okay there is a big difference in saying God may smite them down and praying for God to smite them down. I think he is warning people if they leave God out of their lives, they also leave out His protecting presence.

Okay so the dog went in your yard. Take a chill pill.

betty

[dgolvach]

My neighbor's dog just went potty in my front yard and I can't find my scooper. I suppose its devine retribution for questioning anything that St. Pat says. Afterall ...he is on TV! We should never question the statements of TV prophets!

" GOD MAY SMITE THEM DOWN" "DON'T BOTHER PRAYING TO GOD"

Does anybody understand whats wrong with this guy making such a statement? What about the faithful men, women and children (minority)who live in this town? Are they on God's smite list as well? Well...hmmmmm....I guess if good ol' Pat says so. After all...he is the head of the 700th club. As for him having guts? Its much easier for someone who will never have to worry a day about a roof over his head or if he will have enough $$$$$$$$ for himself or hid kids and grandkids ect. (not that thats a sin)to be brave. I don't hate the guy. Im sure hes a true Christian and will be in heaven. I hate it when he starts calling for people's deaths and for God to smite down a town because it has a misguided liberal majority. It is very irresponsible .Hugo Chavez is a good example. Of course he(Hugo) is not the nicest fellow around but we still have to play ball with him. We get 15 to 17% of our oil from him. Its a very delicate situation at this time and Pat calling for his assassination does not help the situation. Millions of people who aren't as wealthy as Pat could be effected in a very negative way. Ask yourself...does Pat care? Will he have to worry about a winter heating bill or a car fuel cost? Robertson is on national TV and has a large audience. He needs to watch his public mouth and stop with the "thus sayeth the Lord" stuff and tend to his own glass house that we all have.

Dan

[dgolvach]

See now my computor is repeating itself and I got Doggy dung in my front yard! SORRY PAT!

Dan

[TEXASGRANDMA]

See now my computor is repeating itself and I got Doggy dung in my front yard! SORRY PAT!

Dan

[Gerioke]

See now my computor is repeating itself and I got Doggy dung in my front yard! SORRY PAT!

Dan

I'm with you on this one. Pat is coo coo. Gambling is a cancer to society. Gambling is legal in Nova Scotia. There are VLTs in almost every bar and restauran in the province. When I worked as a bartender at the local legion I saw a lot of people dump their entire paychecks into those machines. The people who play them the most are the people who can afford it the least.

The sin is were we rely on the lottery corporation for our big chance instead of leaning on God.