Theistic Evolution

[RV_Wizard]

Just now, Diamond said:

Yet there is a massive amount of disputes over the translation and interpretation of the Bible. 

Of some things, yes.  Some are very literal.  They are not the Ten Suggestions.  Genesis 1 is a simple narrative.  The Revelation is full of symbolism.

[Diamond]

43 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Perhaps you are using a different Bible.

What is your point? Did you watch the cosmos PBS program that talks about how the elements are made in stars. We know God made the sun and the moon and the stars. Science tells us a lot about how God did all of this? Theistic evolution is actually very interesting. We start with hydrogen and helium in the beginning. This is how that works. 

Hydrogen and helium transform into heavier elements through a process called nucleosynthesis, which primarily occurs in stars.

My son is a computer engineer working on a factory that make silicon carbide and other  for use in nanotechnology. They are making resisters to use in the electronics of a car. 

He is working on quality control so that they will last for the life of the car. Do you trust science when they build you a car to drive. Do you trust them to determine how much you can rely and depend on your car for transportation? 

 

Here’s a brief overview of how it works:

1. Stellar Nucleosynthesis: In the cores of stars, hydrogen atoms fuse together under extreme temperatures and pressures to form helium. This process releases a tremendous amount of energy, which powers the star. As stars evolve, they can fuse helium into heavier elements like carbon and oxygen through processes such as the triple-alpha process¹.

2. Supernova Nucleosynthesis: When massive stars exhaust their nuclear fuel, they explode in supernovae. These explosions provide the necessary conditions for the formation of even heavier elements, such as iron, gold, and uranium, through rapid neutron capture processes¹.

3. Neutron Star Collisions: Collisions between neutron stars can also create heavy elements. These events are rare but incredibly powerful, producing elements like gold and platinum¹.

4. Cosmic Ray Spallation: High-energy cosmic rays can collide with atoms in space, breaking them apart and forming lighter elements like lithium, beryllium, and boron¹.

These processes collectively contribute to the diversity of elements found in the universe today.

[Diamond]

16 minutes ago, RV_Wizard said:

Some are very literal.

All of the Bible is literal. What people do not understand is that a day is both 24 hours and billions of years at the same time. It is just too complicated for them to grasp. 

Scholars and theologians argue that such an interpretation is not supported by the text itself and requires significant reinterpretation to fit modern scientific knowledge.

So we have to go back 1,000 years to show that the Bible was interpreted this way before science jumped on the bandwagon to support the theology. In this case, we use Einstein special theory of relativity. 

We go back to see what people like Maimonides said about this long before modern science came along. 

Some people just can not handle a more complicated understanding of the Bible. So that is why we have a literal Bible that even a child can understand. 

[Diamond]

11 hours ago, Sparks said:

Yeah, the cool thing about being God is that all He needs to do is say.  He speaks, and things happen.  If He says let there be light, there will be light.

What's really cool is that He does what He does in a way we can understand.

God challenges job on this 

Job 38:4, reads, “Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone— while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?”. 

The angels and morning stars rejoice in what God is doing. God wants us to know and understand what He is doing. That is why we have out Bible and that is why we have science. 

[RV_Wizard]

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

What is your point?

The point is, God made them in a day.

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

Do you trust science when they build you a car to drive.

If I did, would I need a warranty?

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

What people do not understand is that a day is both 24 hours and billions of years at the same time.

Time, space and matter were created on the first day.  Einstein agreed with God on that one.  Billions of years only exists in science fiction novels.

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

Scholars and theologians argue that such an interpretation is not supported by the text itself and requires significant reinterpretation to fit modern scientific knowledge.

Christians don't alter God's word to conform to the claims of science.  Science is the study of the natural world.  It can neither prove nor disprove the supernatural.

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

So that is why we have a literal Bible that even a child can understand. 

Except we don't.  God's word is hidden from the godless.  2 Corintians:3-4  But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

12 hours ago, Diamond said:

That is why we have out Bible and that is why we have science. 

The Bible reveals the nature of our Creator.  Science studies the nature of the creation.  You will never get supernatural revelations from the study of the natural word.

[Diamond]

On 8/10/2024 at 10:45 AM, NConly said:

And the Bible confirms that certain science is true before science discovered it.

A lot of Science began as theology. Science just confirms what a lot of people already believe.