Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, In1 said:

Perceptions' everything ...

Simple presented biblical truth is everything

"The Beast" rises out of the "Sea" is he the creature from the black lagoon, smiles!

[In1]

3 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Simple presented biblical truth is everything

"The Beast" rises out of the "Sea" is he the creature from the black lagoon, smiles!

It is perception that gives you your biblical truth (though really Jesus is the truth) ... your soul prepares the table you eat from, whether it becomes a snare, or not ... it's all about the soul ...

What relationship is there between Babylon and the waters she sits upon ...

Edited June 13 by In1

[truth7t7]

4 hours ago, In1 said:

It is perception that gives you your biblical truth (though really Jesus is the truth) ... your soul prepares the table you eat from, whether it becomes a snare, or not ... it's all about the soul ...

What relationship is there between Babylon and the waters she sits upon ...

It's God the Holy Ghost that dwells within me that gives me perception

Jesus Is The Lord

John 14:26KJV

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

God prepares the table I eat from

Matthew 6:31-33KJV

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Edited June 13 by truth7t7

[In1]

15 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

It's God the Holy Ghost that dwells within me that gives me perception

Jesus Is The Lord

John 14:26KJV

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

God prepares the table I eat from

Matthew 6:31-33KJV

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

We are all subject to the how our soul perceives things ... Nicodemous's enter a second time into their mothers womb ... or those Peter said wrest scripture to their own destruction ...

Edited Friday at 07:29 PM by In1

[truth7t7]

5 minutes ago, In1 said:

We are all subject to the how our soul perceives things ... Nicodemu's enter a second time into their mothers womb ... or those Peter said wrest scripture to their own destruction ...

I Disagree, "God" the Holy Spirit guides the indwelled believer into truth

John 16:13KJV

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

[In1]

24 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree, "God" the Holy Spirit guides the indwelled believer into truth

John 16:13KJV

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

 Jer 1:17 Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.

God's not the author of confusion ...

 

Edited Friday at 10:03 AM by In1

[DeighAnn]

19 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Where is there any 'righteousness' to be found in the destroying of souls who NEVER HEARD the words of God through no fault of their own?

If our belief doesn't have GOD being JUST to all, and merciful to all and giving ALL souls a chance to COME TO REPENTANCE, especially when we are told it is HIS WILL that all should, then our belief cannot be GODS TRUTH, can it? 

The words of GOD have been purified 7 times meaning we will find NO CONTRADICTIONS in them, and if our belief contains any, then we must go back to find the place we first left the straight and narrow path and get back on it.  If we don't, we will never arrive at His Truth.  

When every verse put before us is believed JUST AS it is written, literally, whether  in a straight forward manner or in using a figures of speech (words used in special ways meant to give us MORE truth, not less, by painting in our minds eye a clearer picture and one harder to be changed by the wisdom of man), then we know we are on the right path.  If we refuse to acknowledge any 'conflicts' in our beliefs, in order to hold on to them and we do it time and again, we become willfully ignorant...



8  And the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah, saying, 9  Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother: 10  And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart. 11  But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. 12  Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts. 13  Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith the LORD of hosts: 14  But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations whom they knew not. Thus the land was desolate after them, that no man passed through nor returned: for they laid the pleasant land desolate.


 
18  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20  But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21  Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23  But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.




8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.



 17  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


LORD OF LORD AND KING OF KINGS is how He is returning...HOW can all the kingdoms of the world become HIS, if they all go up in smoke and disappear forever  at His return???  When does He sit upon HIS THRONE, if He is at the right hand of the Father UNTIL He returns?   We can try and say 'they are one' so He is on His throne now, but THAT THRONE isn't the throne of DAVID, never has been, never will be and the simple truth is, IT ISN'T WRITTEN in that manner, so we are not free to take it that way.  Christ is with GOD in heaven on GODS Throne, Christ at the right hand of Him.  THAT is the truth we are given time and again.  



Matt 10 28 tells us the first death is not a final death for anyone, not even the dead...as we know only one soul has been judged to the 2nd death so far (except for those who refused to be born of woman who are reserved in chains...but we don't know their names like we do the son of perdition).  

 

1 Corinth 15:22  For as indeed in Adam all die, so also in Christ, ALL will be made alive

Roman 14:9  Unto this for Christ died and lived again, that BOTH [the] dead and living He might rule over.  


When will He 'rule over' the dead, if not at His return??

[truth7t7]

13 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

Where is there any 'righteousness' to be found in the destroying of souls who NEVER HEARD the words of God through no fault of their own?

If our belief doesn't have GOD being JUST to all, and merciful to all and giving ALL souls a chance to COME TO REPENTANCE, especially when we are told it is HIS WILL that all should, then our belief cannot be GODS TRUTH, can it? 

The words of GOD have been purified 7 times meaning we will find NO CONTRADICTIONS in them, and if our belief contains any, then we must go back to find the place we first left the straight and narrow path and get back on it.  If we don't, we will never arrive at His Truth.  

When every verse put before us is believed JUST AS it is written, literally, whether  in a straight forward manner or in using a figures of speech (words used in special ways meant to give us MORE truth, not less, by painting in our minds eye a clearer picture and one harder to be changed by the wisdom of man), then we know we are on the right path.  If we refuse to acknowledge any 'conflicts' in our beliefs, in order to hold on to them and we do it time and again, we become willfully ignorant...



8  And the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah, saying, 9  Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassions every man to his brother: 10  And oppress not the widow, nor the fatherless, the stranger, nor the poor; and let none of you imagine evil against his brother in your heart. 11  But they refused to hearken, and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped their ears, that they should not hear. 12  Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts. 13  Therefore it is come to pass, that as he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not hear, saith the LORD of hosts: 14  But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations whom they knew not. Thus the land was desolate after them, that no man passed through nor returned: for they laid the pleasant land desolate.


 
18  Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19  When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20  But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21  Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22  He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23  But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.




8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.



 17  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.


LORD OF LORD AND KING OF KINGS is how He is returning...HOW can all the kingdoms of the world become HIS, if they all go up in smoke and disappear forever  at His return???  When does He sit upon HIS THRONE, if He is at the right hand of the Father UNTIL He returns?   We can try and say 'they are one' so He is on His throne now, but THAT THRONE isn't the throne of DAVID, never has been, never will be and the simple truth is, IT ISN'T WRITTEN in that manner, so we are not free to take it that way.  Christ is with GOD in heaven on GODS Throne, Christ at the right hand of Him.  THAT is the truth we are given time and again.  



Matt 10 28 tells us the first death is not a final death for anyone, not even the dead...as we know only one soul has been judged to the 2nd death so far (except for those who refused to be born of woman who are reserved in chains...but we don't know their names like we do the son of perdition).  

 

1 Corinth 15:22  For as indeed in Adam all die, so also in Christ, ALL will be made alive

Roman 14:9  Unto this for Christ died and lived again, that BOTH [the] dead and living He might rule over.  


When will He 'rule over' the dead, if not at His return??

Already asked and answered, maybe twice

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Already asked and answered, maybe twice

Yes, but there are those who may not have read it and since you keep putting the same things forth, the same things in opposition to them must also be put forth. 

 After all the squeaky wheel gets the oil and when only one side is talking it is the side that will take over...hence the many 'alreadys' seen here...and surely will be seen some more...