Zebulon....The Bird Thing...

[Guest Calamity]

If anyone answered what you were talking about with the birds in Genesis, I missed it, but came across this. Read the first few paragraphs when you get time, if you want to, and see if it answers it any...

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c023.html

[Guest zebulon]

Calamity

The writer makes some interesting suggestions, but when he says Adam most likely wrote of his own accounts, he defies the scriptures which tell us Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible, according to all that God showed him on the Mount. So, there's one pretty big strike against accepting these explanations.

The reason there are two distinctly different creations for the fowl of the air, one from Gen 1 (from waters) and one from Gen 2 (from the dust of the ground) and on two different days of creation entirely, is because the Book of Genesis was formed by the Hebrews from 2 texts sources. There are, in fact, over 5 creation texts, but only 2 were so totally intact that they could be merged to make the one book Genesis, and were presumed to have been written by Moses. Hence the discrepency regarding the fowl. There are errors in scripture, though I've never found one of any great significance (ie, most are numerical errors, so n' so have x number of cattle or men in an army, then in another book the figure differs, for example). There's a slight confusion between two Gospel accounts as to whether Jesus told the disciples to sleep while he went to pray, or told them to stay awake. People who simply have to have an inerrant Bible down to the last letter simply wash over such things and find work-arounds. I find it easier to just realize that we have 4 differnt Gospel perspectives, and there will be some differences. Between the 4 Gospels, different writers have Jesus saying different things at the same events. It doesn't "undo" the Word of God, it merely amplifies it for our understanding. But minor flaws don't undo the Word and its trustworthiness anyway, because whether God made the fowl of the waters or of the dust, it does not effect the message of Salvation, which is the only truly essential element of the scriptures.

[Guest Calamity]

Yes - I noticed the Adam part too.

Something I haven't noticed before, because I use KJV almost all the time, is the different ways that Gen. 1:20 reads in the other versions. In the KJV, it sounds like the birds came out of the water - which is what I thought. In the other versions, it sounds different:

KJV

Genesis 1

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

Genesis 2

19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

NIV

Genesis 1

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky."

Genesis 2

19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.

ESV

Genesis 1

20And God said, "Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds[1] fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens."

Genesis 2

19So out of the ground the LORD God formed[1] every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name.

NKJV

Genesis 1

20Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens."

Genesis 2

19Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.

I never noticed this before!

[Guest zebulon]

Yeah, Ive noticed this too... and to scary degrees on some very key passages in other versions just butchered, unfortunately.