yomotalking Posted January 13, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,838 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/29/1991 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I quite often hear people talking about the 7 Deadly Sins, but what are they? And I thought the Lord regarded all sins the same...except the blasphmey of the Holy Ghost..... So what makes these so different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted January 13, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2006 The only sins which are not deadly are the ones that have been forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcorey Posted January 13, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 363 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 13, 2006 I quite often hear people talking about the 7 Deadly Sins, but what are they? And I thought the Lord regarded all sins the same...except the blasphmey of the Holy Ghost..... So what makes these so different? Pride Envy Anger Sloth Greed Gluttony Lust I think it might be Roman Catholic as they have menial and mortal sins. And I think most sins can be put into any one of these catagories. But I may be wrong on that. But all sin is sin in God's eyes. in Him; corey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoburbite Posted January 13, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 418 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/13/1965 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The Seven Deadly Sins are not something directly quoted by scripture. I found this great website for you, and I'm copying it here. The phrase 'Seven Deadly Sins' is a part of Roman Catholic folklore and church tradition where some sins which they personally deemed as ruin to spiritual progress, was labled deadly or capital, but this teaching has no foundation in the scriptures. The list consisted of the following: 1. Pride 2. Avarice (Greed) 3. Envy 4. Wrath 5. Lust 6. Gluttony 7. Sloth These particular sins are nowhere listed as a group, for they are as every other sin, and are warned against throughout the scripture in many different ways. God does not single these out as deadly above all others. In other words, the sin of pride is no more deadly than the sin of not loving God with all thy heart and soul. The sin of wrath or anger is no more deadly than the sin of disobedience to any of God's commands. They are all deadly transgressions, and so to list seven as deadly 'as if' the other sins are not, does a terrible disservice to the Holiness and justice of God. It is written that the wages of sin is death, not that the wages of these seven sins is. Nevertheless, these sins are some of the more popular sins which man has much difficulty in overcoming, and so we will take a brief look at them in order to understand how they war against the Spirit, and how we may overcome them in Christ. 1. PRIDE: This is the unwillingness to look at one's faults honestly, or of esteeming ourselves greatly based on an excessive consciousness of abilities or worth. This is vanity, and is often euphemistically called, 'self respect.' Proverbs 16:18 "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." This is the root cause of many other sins. The Godly virtue which this transgression wars against is Christian humility and a contrite spirit (Matthew. 5:5, Proverbs 16:19), where man has a spiritual aversion to being subject to God or His laws. It is a hindrance to the Christian's recognition of the Sovereignty and Grace of God. To combat this sin, we should strive to see ourselves as the sinners that we really are, and not to compare ourselves to others, that we might appear to ourselves better or more righteous. 2. AVARICE: This is simply Greed. This sin is the inordinate love of possessions and desire for either material wealth, or to gain more than one needs. Proverbs 15:27 "He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian charity (Matthew 10:21, Acts 20:35), and usually ignores the spiritual in favor of the temporal. To combat this sin we should seek to understand that generosity means sacrifice, and letting others to receive credit or praise. To give wanting nothing in return, is the true charity which combats greed. 3. ENVY: This sin is that of jealousy or perverted love because it is the love and desire to own what belongs to someone else (exodus 20:17). This transgression is the discontentment over another's superiority over us in possessions or some good fortune. Envy is the resentment of the good others will or have received. Matthew 27:17 "Therefore when they were gathered together, Pilate said unto them, Whom will ye that I release unto you? Barabbas, or Jesus which is called Christ? For he knew that for envy they had delivered him." Proverbs 23:17 "Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian contentment (Hebrews 13:5, Philippians 4:11) and true loving of our neighbor as ourselves. We combat this sin by being noble and honestly joy over our neighbor's good fortune, as if it were our own. That is loving our neighbor as ourselves (James 2:8) and being meek in spirit. 4. WRATH: This is the transgression of anger or strong exasperation in rage at something or someone. It is often the result of our impatience or of having our pride hurt. James 1:20 "For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God." Colossians 3:8 "But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian Love and patience (Hosea 14:4, Luke 6:36) in dealing with the faults of others. We combat this sin by reigning in the passion of the flesh, not neglecting charity and love, and being patient where we show kindness and compassion to others, forgiving their transgressions seven times seventy. 5. LUST: This is the sin of having an inordinate and intense longing or appetite for something such as money, or sexual cravings. It is often manifested in a self-destructive drive for some pleasure regardless of it's value, merit, or legality. Matthew 5:28 "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." 1st John 2:16 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian self control. The Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak (Galatians 6:7-8, 1st Corinthians 9:27), and so to combat this sin we should seek to remove from our realm or sight all temptations or snares which we might fall into because of our weakness. 6. GLUTTONY: This sin manifested in someone who indulges himself excessively in eating or drinking. Proverbs 23:21 Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian moderation (Philippians 4:5) and sound judgment. We can combat the sin of gluttony by temperance in accepting the natural limits of pleasures and by praying for strength to reduce our desire to eat. We should learn to quit eating before we are feeling stuffed or full. 7. SLOTH: This sin is the inclination to being lazy or to abhor the work ethic. Man is to provide for himself and his household, and being idle is a contradiction to this command of God. Proverbs 19:15 "Slothfulness casteth into a deep sleep; and an idle soul shall suffer hunger." Ecclesiastes 10:18 "By much slothfulness the building decayeth; and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through." The Godly virtue which this sin wars against is Christian zeal and Work (1st Corinthians 15:58, 2nd Timothy 4:5) ethic. We can combat this sin by repentance and in praying to God for an ardent and energetic interest or desire to respond to God's commands against our disdain for physical exertion. And so we see from the scriptures that these so called 'seven deadly sins' are simply a small part of an extensive collection of sins or transgressions of God's law, the breaking of any of which will cause death. 1st Corinthians 15:56-57 "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." The true Christian who has been born from above need not fear any of the myriad of sins, all of which will bring the wages of death, for we have the victory over them through our Lord Christ Jesus. God gave the ten commandments encapsulating the 'whole law' not the seven deadly sins. And the true believer should understand that unless Christ has been the propitiation for all of our sins from the least to the greatest, then we will see death as the wages of such sins. But if Christ has washed all our sins away, then no sin is deadly to us. Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." 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ray Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 281 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 789 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/03/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2006 Wow! I have wondered about this too. Thanks for the great answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisterinchrist Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 111 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/13/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1953 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Those were good explanations, I had often wondered about them myself. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 119 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/25/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 14, 2006 The deadly sins in Roman Catholic theology are those that will send you to hell. Basically you have mortal sins and venial sins venial sins you have to pay for yourself in purgatory. The seven deadly sins will fall under the catagory of Mortal Sins. One scripture catholics willuse to support this unbiblical view is: 1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life--to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryt Posted January 14, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 52 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,230 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 1 Joined: 08/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Hi Yomo, While the RCC has its 7 deadly sins the bible does talk about seven particularly offensive sins in proverbs.Pr 6:16 These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: Pr 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, Pr 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pr 6:19 A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.Pride is mentioned first, and lying is mentioned twice. LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomotalking Posted January 15, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,838 Content Per Day: 0.40 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/29/1991 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 How did the RCC come up with the idea, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Posted January 16, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 961 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 16, 2006 The deadly sins in Roman Catholic theology are those that will send you to hell. Basically you have mortal sins and venial sins venial sins you have to pay for yourself in purgatory. The seven deadly sins will fall under the catagory of Mortal Sins. One scripture catholics willuse to support this unbiblical view is: 1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life--to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. Sorry Shane, but this isn't even close to what the Catholic Church teaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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