Is this talking about the Millenium?

[Christ's Free Servant]

[Guest LadyC]

yes.

[Trinity]

I believe so

[Christ's Free Servant]

I believe so

Ok, then maybe you can help me understand something. If this is so, then that means after Christ returns, and we meet him in the air and we get glorified bodies and there is the final battle (I think that is the order) and we have the final judgment then we reign with him for 1000 years, right? Will it be all believers or just those who survived the tribulation? If all, are we going to be married and have kids? It sounds like that. Will we do this with glorified bodies? Will all the babies who have been aborted be there and will they grow up? I've never understood this and I don't think anyone has ever ventured there much to try to explain it. Will there be non-believers there who survived the tribulation? Is that who we will rule over? So we would have glorified bodies but they would be normal humans? Will we really be building houses and living in them and working like we work now? How will it be different? So, the "never be married or given in marriage in heaven" does not apply to these 1000 years? So, what about the people who have already been with Jesus? Is this one of the great mysteries of the Bible? You don't hear too many sermons on this subject. I don't think I've ever sat through a Bible study on it, either, and I was raised in the same denomination as you, Trinity. We talked a lot about the Lord's return, but there was always this feeling of just being with the Lord forever in heaven, and no one talks much at all about the 1000 years. What do you make of it?

[yomotalking]

I'm not sure.

That's a good question......can't wait to hear the responses.

[Trinity]

Um... You see, this is where Theologized Doctrine come in to play... I find that the post-trib view has difficulties with this, that is why you probably haven't heard it explained before. this verse is one of the main reasons why i left the Post-trib stance, Besides that i was already on the edge it pushed me over when they didn't have an answere for that verse, or a refute for the other reasons.

But if you would like to hear my answere i am more then willing to share

If not then its ok too

Edited February 17, 2006 by Trinity

[Christ's Free Servant]

Um... You see, this is where Theologized Doctrine come in to play... I find that the post-trib view has difficulties with this, that is why you probably haven't heard it explained before. this verse is one of the main reasons why i left the Post-trib stance, Besides that i was already on the edge it pushed me over when they didn't have an answere for that verse, or a refute for the other reasons.

But if you would like to hear my answere i am more then willing to share

If not then its ok too

Sure, I would love to hear your view. I am not die-hard anything when it comes to things that can have so many different interpretations. I only believe post-trib because of things that the Lord has shown me through his word about that time, but then I don't understand everything he has shown me, either. I'm always learning and I love to hear different viewpoints. I'm not going to debate with you. I'd just like to read your opinion and then compare it to other things I have learned and then see if it adds up for me. So, please feel free to share. I'm listening.

[Trinity]

Just what i wanted to hear, i didn't want to debate either I am not die-hard anything i just lean towards Pre trib

I believe that the Rapture will come first, then those who become saved during the Tribulation will be the those who enter into the Millennial Kingdom and populate the Earth.

Only a few will enter into the millennial kingdom according to the book of Revelation when you equal out how many times it says how many people will die it comes out to 1 out of 7 people will live to the end-(Armageddon) counting all believers and non-believers.

and we have the final judgment then we reign with him for 1000 years, right?

And

We talked a lot about the Lord's return, but there was always this feeling of just being with the Lord forever in heaven, and no one talks much at all about the 1000 years.

Yes, we have the final Judgment, but at the Final Judgment there are two groups.

A.) Those who judge, and those who watch the judging on different thrones. You know what we are? Those who judge, as you just clarified.

B.) Those others who don

Edited February 18, 2006 by Trinity

[deafcanada]

Just what i wanted to hear, i didn't want to debate either I am not die-hard anything i just lean towards Pre trib

I believe that the Rapture will come first, then those who become saved during the Tribulation will be the those who enter into the Millennial Kingdom and populate the Earth.

Only a few will enter into the millennial kingdom according to the book of Revelation when you equal out how many times it says how many people will die it comes out to 1 out of 7 people will live to the end-(Armageddon) counting all believers and non-believers.

and we have the final judgment then we reign with him for 1000 years, right?

And

We talked a lot about the Lord's return, but there was always this feeling of just being with the Lord forever in heaven, and no one talks much at all about the 1000 years.

Yes, we have the final Judgment, but at the Final Judgment there are two groups.

A.) Those who judge, and those who watch the judging on different thrones. You know what we are? Those who judge, as you just clarified.

B.) Those others who don

[Christ's Free Servant]

Trinity,

I have another question, then. If only those who were saved during the tribulation reign with Christ during the 1000 years, then where are the rest of us? If we are supposed to be with Christ forever, then how will we be with Christ if he's here reigning with those who were saved out of the tribulation?

You know that verse that says that when Christ comes back that those who have gone on before will be raised first and then those who are alive and remain will be caught up with him in the air and then we shall ever be with the Lord. That is talking about all of us. So, how can some be here reigning with him and others of us be some place else if we are all joined together with him at his second coming?