The Gospel

[hebrews_beauty]

Apparently I misunderstood somewhere. Sorry.

Edited May 4, 2006 by hebrews_beauty

[Brandli5]

THe bible certainly does say we must repent of our sins, and ask forgivness of our sins. That is the commuication and the way we are to pray to the lord. If we do not talk with JEsus, then we do not have a strong relationship with him. We must grow in faith and therefore talk with him in prayer, read about him, and share the faith.

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." -1 John 1:8

(2). Repent (be sorry for and turn from your sins, to a new life in Christ).

"Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out." -Acts 3:19

(3). Salvation is available only through Jesus Christ.

"Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes unto the Father, but by me." -John 14:6

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." -1 Timothy 2:5

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." -Acts 4:12

[Guest Daave]

Only Believe

Only Believe

Only Believe

If only believing doesn't change my heart, then there is no new birth.

If only believing doesn't create the desire for me to leave the old and cleve to the new, it's decieving, not believing.

If only believing makes me hate sin, and cling to the cross, and trust in what Christ there did; it was God's reveling and my recieving.

Only Believe

Only Believe

Only Believe

Daave

[germanJoy]

IMO, there are two kinds of gospel messages, to wit: "gospel of belief and gospel of obedience". Many christians preach only one kind while neglecting the other. In other words, many believe on OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved, the product "gospel of belief") while rejecting WOYS (Work Out Your Salvation, the product of "gospel of obedience") instead of believing both positions.

Johnz, "the gospel of belief" is what you have quoted i.e., John 3:16-21 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.....

In addition, we need to also quote "the gospel of obedience" i.e., John 3:36 He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

This means "believing" and "obeying" the Son is the assurance of eternal life. In other words, if you work out your salvation, you qualify to be once saved always saved. For a man is justified by works also and not by faith alone. Faith is working with a man's works and as a result of the works, faith is perfected. (James 2:22-24)

God bless you.

germanJoy

Edited May 10, 2006 by germanJoy

[Guest Daave]

"gospel of belief and gospel of obedience".

Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

Matthew 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15. And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Romans 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace,

Romans 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

Romans 15:29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.

12. If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

18. What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

2 Cor 4:4. In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

2 Cor 9:13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;

2 Cor 10:14 For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:

2 Cor 11:7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

Galations 1:6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Eph 6:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Phil 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

1 thess 2:8 So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you, not the gospel of God only, but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us.

9. For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.

I have looked far enough to know that there is no "gospel of belief and gospel of obedience"

God Bless and Good Night,

Daave

[johnz]

There is no Gospel of works (obedience). There is no such thing. There is only one Gospel, one WAY: Jesus.

Look at Romans 9:30-33

30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law.For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33 As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."

Why did the Gentiles obtain righteousness? Because they sought it by faith.

Why did the Jews not obtain righteousness? Because they did not seek it by faith but by works.

Allot of people put 50% of thier faith in jesus and 50 % in themselves. It does not work that way.

Galatians 1:6-9

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

You I plead with you, turn fully to Christ.

2 Cor 4

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them

2 Cor 3

But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament (LAW=WORKS), because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

2 Cor 5

20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

At the same time God took your sins, put it on Jesus and took Jesus's righteousness and offered it to you.

Hebrews 4:1-10

1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest,' " although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"; 5 and again in this place: "They shall not enter My rest." 6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, "Today," after such a long time, as it has been said: "Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts." 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

There is soo much you can get from these verses, but to keep it short focus on vs 10. IN order to enter in God's rest you need to CEASE FROM YOUR WORKS.

Turn to Christ. Put all you faith in his grace, in what he has done.

Much love,

In Christ,

John.

[Guest beenblessed]

There is no Gospel of works (obedience). There is no such thing. There is only one Gospel, one WAY: Jesus.

Look at Romans 9:30-33

30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness of faith; 31 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Why? Because they did not seek it by faith, but as it were, by the works of the law.For they stumbled at that stumbling stone. 33 As it is written: "Behold, I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense, And whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame."

Why did the Gentiles obtain righteousness? Because they sought it by faith.

Why did the Jews not obtain righteousness? Because they did not seek it by faith but by works.

Allot of people put 50% of thier faith in jesus and 50 % in themselves. It does not work that way.

Galatians 1:6-9

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

You I plead with you, turn fully to Christ.

2 Cor 4

3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them

2 Cor 3

But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament (LAW=WORKS), because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

2 Cor 5

20 Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. 21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

At the same time God took your sins, put it on Jesus and took Jesus's righteousness and offered it to you.

Hebrews 4:1-10

1 Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed the gospel was preached to us as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in those who heard it. 3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: "So I swore in My wrath, 'They shall not enter My rest,' " although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all His works"; 5 and again in this place: "They shall not enter My rest." 6 Since therefore it remains that some must enter it, and those to whom it was first preached did not enter because of disobedience, 7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, "Today," after such a long time, as it has been said: "Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts." 8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

There is soo much you can get from these verses, but to keep it short focus on vs 10. IN order to enter in God's rest you need to CEASE FROM YOUR WORKS.

Turn to Christ. Put all you faith in his grace, in what he has done.

Much love,

In Christ,

John.

Johnz,

You are doing a good work on these boards. Keep on preaching the truth of God's Word in love with grace and mercy - glorifying your Father in all you say and do!

Sowing and watering the seed is our job, but it is the Lord that gives the increase!

Blessings!