Original Sin

[chrismarc]

We all have this from day 1 - yes or no?

[WOJ]

Romans 5:12 states that

[branchesofHim]

Psalm 51:5 "Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me."

We were all born in this world with the original sin of Adam passed down to us through the blood line. That is why Jesus had to be born of a virgin. Had he been a descendant of Adam, he would have been born guilty of sin and would not have been a spotless sacrifice on the cross. He would have needed a redeemer, but since his Father is God, he didn't have the guilty of the original sin and since he lived a perfect life, his sacrifice was acceptable.

Amen Butero. Truth indeed.

[tah]

Yes..

Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

[Elihu's Girl]

Yes. Psalm 51:5, Genesis 8:21

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

I agree with Cardcaptor, with an EMPHATIC NO! We are each responsible for our own sin. What we inherited from Adam was death and separation from God. Please read Genesis again. Death was passed to the progeny of Adam - not his sin. Yes we were formed in the iniquities of OUR FATHER, but his sin was NOT passed on to his progeny. This has to do with the "image of God" in which he created man. Every man is created "in the image" of God. So that when God looks into a mirror, He sees His reflection, it is not marred, as some seem to think. In the mirror, God sees Christ, who redeemed us from death, and took our sin in his own body to die to it, so that now we might also die to sin and live for Christ. We who know Christ as personal savior and redeemer are hidden IN CHRIST when God looks in that mirror.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Guest silent_cry]

We do not inherit sin from the bloodline of the mother, but of the Father. Since that is the case, Jesus was not guilty of the original sin, though he had an earthly mother. While we are conceived in sin, that is because of the Father's blood line.

How does that work? I understand that the bible was written from a patriarchal stance, but how is it relevant that we inherit sin from fathers but not from mothers. I personally don't believe in original sin. Adam and Eve were given the ability of choice, and THAT is how sin entered in it all. Children have no sin until they actually sin. They cannot comprehend the idea of sin. How can you break a law if you do not know it exists?

it is my position that children of Christians are under their covering until they are old enough to accept or reject Christ on their own. Children of unbelievers, such as the Canaanite children that God ordered Joshua to destroy were unclean.

I disagree completely with the idea that children of unbelievers are "unclean". I don't know what the context of the story you are mentioning is, but I cannot imagine a God who would cast away a child simply because that child was born into a non-christian home. And what if one of the parents is christina and the other is not? That is the case for me, I am christina but my wife (separated) is not. is one parent enough to "cover the child"?

In short, I disagree completely with the idea of original sin. My daughter is perfect until God decides otherwise.

[tah]

Yes..

Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

For me it is just that simple...

breaking laws that we do not know exist is still breaking the law..

all I have to do is go to a different state and If I am not familiar with their laws I could very easily break them..

Every one understands how you feel about your child..

Your little one is probably safely covered by Your faith but I firmly believe that when she knows right from wrong and can understand then she is responisble before God..

All my precious little ones were...and still are only accountable to Him..

That is why I trained them the best I knew how from the earliest days

of their little lives to fear the Lord for that is the beginning of wisdom...

We have a grave responsibility to our kids and we need to take it very very seriously...

God has allowed us to have them for a season and we had better make every minute counts..

I do not think we understand the consequences of sin..

I need to be careful not to tell God He is unjust ...

We may not like His judgments but He is never unjust...

[nanasimmons]

Any one who doesn't believe that children are born with sin, hasn't seen very small children play together,It can get pretty ugly without a referee. You don't have to teach them to lie, you have to teach them to tell the truth,to share,to be nice ect...

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings,

Romans 7:6-11 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Paul, here, says that before the "law" he was "alive". Was he alive physically or spiritually? Alive to God or dead to God? But when he "understood" the "law", sin taking occasion, slew him. He became aware of his deadness to God. So as a child departs from the womb, does he/she know the law? How ridiculous, of course not. But the child is born in death, he/she is born spiritually dead to God, having been separated from God through the sin of Adam. Did the child sin to receive such separation? Of course not. His death was a result of Adam's sin. But the child must come to a place when they learn of the commandment. Then they are responsible for it and if they continue in that sin, they shall die of their own accord. As it is written: By your own sin shall you die.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie