Magic

[Apoptosis]

I beg to differ, I used to be in contact with demonic spirits as a young person, and I have witnesses that have seen the demons move objects around.

At the time I was tricked into thinking it was me doing it, we could not see the demons.

In Medicine we call that psychosis, and when in a group we call it mass hallucination.

Demonic influences can also do these things, Apoptosis...no hallucination about it.

So could a hallucingenic drug that alters brain chemistry or a good wack to the head, are you denying the fact that psychosis patients are caused by imbalance in brain chemistry and that these patients were the result of the devil manipulating their minds? Why do we even treat these people, why not just submit them to the church and have a massive exorcism rally? And really, the Devil must be very impotent, considering a man made chemical product could thwart his devious actions.

Well sorry to differ! I have had experience with such things...no drugs involved.

Just saying you shouldnt resort to the Devil without first exhausting all other forms of explaination that are by far more likely.

[Floatingaxe]

I beg to differ, I used to be in contact with demonic spirits as a young person, and I have witnesses that have seen the demons move objects around.

At the time I was tricked into thinking it was me doing it, we could not see the demons.

In Medicine we call that psychosis, and when in a group we call it mass hallucination.

Demonic influences can also do these things, Apoptosis...no hallucination about it.

So could a hallucingenic drug that alters brain chemistry or a good wack to the head, are you denying the fact that psychosis patients are caused by imbalance in brain chemistry and that these patients were the result of the devil manipulating their minds? Why do we even treat these people, why not just submit them to the church and have a massive exorcism rally? And really, the Devil must be very impotent, considering a man made chemical product could thwart his devious actions.

Well sorry to differ! I have had experience with such things...no drugs involved.

Just saying you shouldnt resort to the Devil without first exhausting all other forms of explaination that are by far more likely.

That's fine--I knew who it was! So did everyone else!

[Apoptosis]

Did "everyone else" include a doctor? or at least somebody thats not so quick to jump to conclusions?

[Floatingaxe]

Did "everyone else" include a doctor? or at least somebody thats not so quick to jump to conclusions?

Everyone incuded the whole congregation, including a doctor! Sometimes the devil tips his hand pretty well. He can be foolish sometimes like that, when he shows himself in church, or even among a bunch of believers! Then he's toast!

[spiritman]

There were also no drugs involved in my situation. And I had plenty of witnesses. I was just your average young boy, no signs that would come with brain chemisty problems or anything.

Now that I look back on it, I didn't even know what I was doing. I had like this voice inside me telling me what to do. It told me to mediate. I use to go outside, and sit on the grass, and cross my legs, and place my fingers on the ground palms down, then I would chant over and over that I was rooted in the ground like a tree. I then imagined my fingers became the roots of a tree, and they would go deeper and deeper into the ground.

The deeper my roots went the more peace I felt. Later on as I got older about 9 or 10, I had demonic visions of being in a space ship headed toward earth, and I could see what looked like control panels, and I saw this creature, and he said to me " good luck", then I was dropped into the womb of a women to help the people of the earth.

I used to take my hands, and place them on the hands of others but bring them up about an inch or so, and then think about my hands being a magnet with a north pole, and the other persons hand, would be a north pole. I could push their hand away or which ever direction I wished. They said, they could feel presure pushing their hand.

Of course later the Lord showed me that it was my desire to be thought of as someone great, and to be liked. I was not having a good relationship with my parents, just goes to show you, that the devil will slip in anyway he can. Praise God that's over.

I was deceived by the master of all lies. but praise the Lord I'm now redeemed

[Apoptosis]

There were also no drugs involved in my situation. And I had plenty of witnesses. I was just your average young boy, no signs that would come with brain chemisty problems or anything.

Now that I look back on it, I didn't even know what I was doing. I had like this voice inside me telling me what to do. It told me to mediate. I use to go outside, and sit on the grass, and cross my legs, and place my fingers on the ground palms down, then I would chant over and over that I was rooted in the ground like a tree. I then imagined my fingers became the roots of a tree, and they would go deeper and deeper into the ground.

The deeper my roots went the more peace I felt. Later on as I got older about 9 or 10, I had demonic visions of being in a space ship headed toward earth, and I could see what looked like control panels, and I saw this creature, and he said to me " good luck", then I was dropped into the womb of a women to help the people of the earth.

I used to take my hands, and place them on the hands of others but bring them up about an inch or so, and then think about my hands being a magnet with a north pole, and the other persons hand, would be a north pole. I could push their hand away or which ever direction I wished. They said, they could feel presure pushing their hand.

Of course later the Lord showed me that it was my desire to be thought of as someone great, and to be liked. I was not having a good relationship with my parents, just goes to show you, that the devil will slip in anyway he can. Praise God that's over.

I was deceived by the master of all lies. but praise the Lord I'm now redeemed

You should have contacted scientific authorities, you know there was this prize of a million dollars for anyone to show a paranormal activity in a scientifically controlled setting.

[Iryssa]

Scully?? You...I've wanted to meet you for SO LONG!! Can I have your autograph??

Oh, wait...sorry Apoptosis...I thought you were somebody else. Just kidding.

[Apoptosis]

Scully?? You...I've wanted to meet you for SO LONG!! Can I have your autograph??

Oh, wait...sorry Apoptosis...I thought you were somebody else. Just kidding.

Lol, I'll take that as a complement. I used to watch the Xfiles a lot, one of my biology professors in college was the science advisor to the show.

[Iryssa]

Scully?? You...I've wanted to meet you for SO LONG!! Can I have your autograph??

Oh, wait...sorry Apoptosis...I thought you were somebody else. Just kidding.

Lol, I'll take that as a complement. I used to watch the Xfiles a lot, one of my biology professors in college was the science advisor to the show.

*laugh*

That's so awesome that your bio prof was science advisor for the X-Files! I've always thought it would be so much fun to be involved with a show that way (I'd want Stargate, but the X-Files would've been fun too)

[Guest Natures Girl]

There were also no drugs involved in my situation. And I had plenty of witnesses. I was just your average young boy, no signs that would come with brain chemisty problems or anything.

Now that I look back on it, I didn't even know what I was doing. I had like this voice inside me telling me what to do. It told me to mediate. I use to go outside, and sit on the grass, and cross my legs, and place my fingers on the ground palms down, then I would chant over and over that I was rooted in the ground like a tree. I then imagined my fingers became the roots of a tree, and they would go deeper and deeper into the ground.

The deeper my roots went the more peace I felt. Later on as I got older about 9 or 10, I had demonic visions of being in a space ship headed toward earth, and I could see what looked like control panels, and I saw this creature, and he said to me " good luck", then I was dropped into the womb of a women to help the people of the earth.

I used to take my hands, and place them on the hands of others but bring them up about an inch or so, and then think about my hands being a magnet with a north pole, and the other persons hand, would be a north pole. I could push their hand away or which ever direction I wished. They said, they could feel presure pushing their hand.

Of course later the Lord showed me that it was my desire to be thought of as someone great, and to be liked. I was not having a good relationship with my parents, just goes to show you, that the devil will slip in anyway he can. Praise God that's over.

I was deceived by the master of all lies. but praise the Lord I'm now redeemed

It never crossed your mind, even after all these years that, maybe you just have a great imagination? I used to run around with a stick shaped like a gun, playing army or cops and robbers or cowboys and indians... maybe it was the devil.