Constable zaps himself and innocent teen with taser

[buckthesystem]

This is just for Silentprayer, to show that horrible things do actually happen here, too:

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QUOTE(Silentprayer @ Nov 17 2006, 08:30 AM)

Hey Buck, if I remember correctly your not American right?? No unseemly news in your neck of the woods, or anywhere else in the world? Or is it just Americans, in your eyes, who need all their faults/problems/foibles pointed out to them?

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cf...jectid=10411372

Constable zaps himself and innocent teen with Taser

Saturday November 18, 2006

By Patrick Gower

A constable who took a Taser to a central Auckland domestic dispute wound up shocking himself and a 16-year-old and later pepper-spraying an innocent 21-year-old woman.

The constable accidentally blasted himself with the Taser's 50,000 volts as he reloaded the weapon while trying to stun a man at the centre of the domestic incident on October 1. One shot accidentally struck the man's teenage son.

After five attempts to hit the man, the officer eventually used pepper spray. This hit the man's 21-year-old daughter, also an unintended target.

The man eventually gave himself up. The constable, who had had Taser training, was not injured.

The weapon is the police's much-vaunted alternative to firearms and is being tested by 170 frontline police in Auckland and Wellington.

Police revealed details of the incident after Weekend Herald inquiries.

Detective Inspector Bernie Hollewand of Auckland City police confirmed that the constable fired the Taser five times - three times loaded with cartridges and twice in "contact" mode, where it is used like a cattle prod. The first shot hit the son.

Mr Hollewand said the officer claimed that just as the red laser sight was on the man's chest, he pulled his son across him.

It is believed that at one point the officer received a jolt after putting his hand in the Taser.

"The constable did remove one of the cartridges before a five-second discharge cycle was complete and he did feel in his hand that the device was arcing 50,000 volts."

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[billie]

Thank you for sharing. I'll keep them in prayer.

I've also wondered why you always seem to post only bad things about America. I was just too afraid of offending you to ask.

[buckthesystem]

Thank you for sharing. I'll keep them in prayer.

I've also wondered why you always seem to post only bad things about America. I was just too afraid of offending you to ask.

Don't be so sensitive BLD (is that abbreviation OK?) I am not dis'ing America, I only post negative things about any other country too. Good news just doesn't get "in the news", and a news story titled "box of fluffy ducks given to childrens' zoo in mississippi" - or something like that, just wouldn't warrant discussion. All anyone can say is "oh, isn't that nice".

[billie]

No, I suppose that wouldn't be news.

Yes, most people call me BLD.

[Scarletprayers]

Ahhh I feel special now.

Buck, there is enough bad press about America here in our own country, and all across the world. Evidently if you read the news (anywhere) we are stupid barbarians, with no social skills, we enjoy killing people just for the fun of it, and have no morals, just out buying the newest electronic gadget or car is our only agenda. I don't want to read the same stuff here at Worthy that I am bombarded with everyday. Worthy is where I come to meet with friends, to talk and laugh, and learn to find fellowship and forget I live in a fallen world. If I want to read about all of America's warts and wrinkles, I'll watch our own news, or read the news from around the world, since right now I don't think you can find any of them that have anything good to say about us. Maybe we should all start looking for the good news, there is enough bad and as long as it gets all the attention, thats what the news will keep reporting.

Just to counter the usual tripe in the news, I pray everyday about any diaster I hear about, I pray for our brothers and sisters where ever they are, surffering from persecution because of their faith, or the ones who don't know they have faith because God has them in his sights, and they don't even know it yet. I pray for the families everytime I drive by a funeral home and see the parking lot full of cars, or hear about someone who was killed or hurt on the news. I'm sorry you could find the above article, because yep your right, bad things happen everywhere, everyday. I pray for EVERYONE here a Worthy everyday, and not just the ones that I agree with or I feel are really my friends even though I've never seen their faces and wouldn't know them if they walked up to me. I pray for my faith to grow and for God to use me in what ever capicity He wants. And I don't think I'm much different than any other American I come into contact with. I guess what it all boils down to, is, I'm pretty much just like you. I don't agree with everything my biological family says and thinks, and its the same for my Godly family here at Worthy. But, I still love them, and pray for them, and want good things in their lives.

And yes I noticed, I can't spell today!

[buckthesystem]

Ahhh I feel special now.

Buck, there is enough bad press about America here in our own country, and all across the world. Evidently if you read the news (anywhere) we are stupid barbarians, with no social skills, we enjoy killing people just for the fun of it, and have no morals, just out buying the newest electronic gadget or car is our only agenda. I don't want to read the same stuff here at Worthy that I am bombarded with everyday. Worthy is where I come to meet with friends, to talk and laugh, and learn to find fellowship and forget I live in a fallen world. If I want to read about all of America's warts and wrinkles, I'll watch our own news, or read the news from around the world, since right now I don't think you can find any of them that have anything good to say about us. Maybe we should all start looking for the good news, there is enough bad and as long as it gets all the attention, thats what the news will keep reporting.

Just to counter the usual tripe in the news, I pray everyday about any diaster I hear about, I pray for our brothers and sisters where ever they are, surffering from persecution because of their faith, or the ones who don't know they have faith because God has them in his sights, and they don't even know it yet. I pray for the families everytime I drive by a funeral home and see the parking lot full of cars, or hear about someone who was killed or hurt on the news. I'm sorry you could find the above article, because yep your right, bad things happen everywhere, everyday. I pray for EVERYONE here a Worthy everyday, and not just the ones that I agree with or I feel are really my friends even though I've never seen their faces and wouldn't know them if they walked up to me. I pray for my faith to grow and for God to use me in what ever capicity He wants. And I don't think I'm much different than any other American I come into contact with. I guess what it all boils down to, is, I'm pretty much just like you. I don't agree with everything my biological family says and thinks, and its the same for my Godly family here at Worthy. But, I still love them, and pray for them, and want good things in their lives.

And yes I noticed, I can't spell today!

Silentprayer, you're being way too sensitive. Be proud to be American, there is a lot to be proud about. I get the impression that God is in the lives of a lot of Americans and things that America does might be criticised by some people in outside countries but they mostly do reflect God.

I do not generally pick on America. It may come across that I do, but I do not intend it to look that way at all. America is a big country with a lot of news organisations. I go to the foreign news organisations because it takes about 10 minutes to scan the local news (of which there are only about three reliable sites) and out of the foreign news sites the American ones are about the only ones that are not heavily censored. As far as I know everything that goes on in America is told truthfully somewhere in the news. This is in contrast to most Asian or European countries where you have to "read between the lines" and search hard to find (what is presumably) the real truth, and even then it is not 100% reliable.

America is still known as a basically honest country. In contrast I just read a sentence in a local magazine article that says "NZ over the past 30 years has elected a string of governments from both sides of the fence who have directly passed laws in direct conflict with the ten commandments". I find this really scary, and to realise that most European countries (the one we hear most about is Holland) and the UK have also passed similar laws, makes it even worse. The only comfort I can take is in the fact that America does not seem to be going down that road and is still basically "with God".

I have always admired the American constitution and going by television (which wasn't in NZ until the 1960s, and our family didn't get until about 1966 when I was a young child) we were brought up on diet of old black and white American films about how "honesty and the American constitution will always win in the end". So it really hurts to see the American president passing laws that over-ride peoples' basic rights under that constitution. I see that all over Europe they have passed laws to by-pass human rights, and they are telling their people that "privacy is no longer important", so it just saddens me to see it happening in America too and the people seemingly accepting it and justifying it.

I don't just post "any old rubbish" of a story I find in the news. I have been burnt before by this and now realise that "you can't always believe what you read", so I see a news story that seems shocking and verify it by seeking two other sources. Then if it checks out, it is OK.

So I'll look for some good news. Hmmn, let me see......... Oh, it has finally stopped raining and the sun is out. (The local river was actually flooded over the banks yesterday, really unusual for this really dry town) and I was afraid we were going to get "rained off" from work again - we have already lost so many days of work this year due to being "rained off". But now it looks like it is not going to happen.

Grace and God by with you Sister,

BTS

[Guest LadyC]

Thank you for sharing. I'll keep them in prayer.

I've also wondered why you always seem to post only bad things about America. I was just too afraid of offending you to ask.

Don't be so sensitive BLD (is that abbreviation OK?) I am not dis'ing America, I only post negative things about any other country too. Good news just doesn't get "in the news", and a news story titled "box of fluffy ducks given to childrens' zoo in mississippi" - or something like that, just wouldn't warrant discussion. All anyone can say is "oh, isn't that nice".

has it ever occurred to you that posting positive things is more edifying to the board and Christ? oh wait, yes it has, because i've pointed it out to you a time or two.

[buckthesystem]

Thank you for sharing. I'll keep them in prayer.

I've also wondered why you always seem to post only bad things about America. I was just too afraid of offending you to ask.

Don't be so sensitive BLD (is that abbreviation OK?) I am not dis'ing America, I only post negative things about any other country too. Good news just doesn't get "in the news", and a news story titled "box of fluffy ducks given to childrens' zoo in mississippi" - or something like that, just wouldn't warrant discussion. All anyone can say is "oh, isn't that nice".

has it ever occurred to you that posting positive things is more edifying to the board and Christ? oh wait, yes it has, because i've pointed it out to you a time or two.

LadyC has it ever occurred to you that not constantly "sniping" at other people would be far more edifying to the board and Christ? If you have a problem with other posts, do not read them, just get your favourite book of fairy tales out, and if you don't have something positive to say to other posters, or talk about what they said, not what you perceive their personality to be - then don't reply to everything. This is a "world news" section, "news" is not always "positive" and "encouraging". There is a thread titled "Politically correct, sick of it or love it?" on the "general discussion" section, you might want to read it and then you might realise that you seem to have fallen into the trap of buying into the theory that we should never criticise anything, but be "positive and encouraging" - something to think about.

Or you could "take a concrete pill and harden up".

[sheya joie]

For my part, I kinda figured you were anti-Taser...

[CSLewis]

Did you have a bad experience with a Taser as a child? Just because some Tasers are evil doesn't mean they all are. Let us try to forgive the evil tasers in the world - No Taser is perfect - all misfire at some point -