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Uh oh! Another Catholic sneaked in here. Who was supposed to be checking membership cards at the door? :taped:;)

Ya know. I was wonderin' sumthin'.

If Jesus simply wanted us to remember His sacrifice, why didn't He just say so? Why go thru all the motions with the bread and wine? :emot-questioned:

Can someone explain that to me? If you believe it's all symbolic, why does He have you jump thru all those hoops just to remember Him? :noidea:

Thanks,

Fiosh

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Because bread means something to God--just as Manna represented something to Israel, bread means the same thing. Just as the water out of the rock meant something to Israel, so does the Blood of Jesus mean the same to us! It is the same as in the OT. Jesus was there in the manna and in the water. He is now in the bread and the cup. Did the Jews eat Jesus literally? No. Do we? No.

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever

floatingaxe,

How is Jesus "in the bread and the cup"?

Thanks,

F

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How is He not? The bread is an emblem of Jesus, the Bread of Life! He is in the cup, as Living Water, just as in the wilderness for the Israelites. With Him we will never thirst. In the cup of remembrance, as Christ did, we use wine---which is emblematic of His shed blood.

So, He's not really "in the cup".....it just represents Him?

Yes, just as Jesus said.

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Uh oh! Another Catholic sneaked in here. Who was supposed to be checking membership cards at the door? :taped:;)

Ya know. I was wonderin' sumthin'.

If Jesus simply wanted us to remember His sacrifice, why didn't He just say so? Why go thru all the motions with the bread and wine? :emot-questioned:

Can someone explain that to me? If you believe it's all symbolic, why does He have you jump thru all those hoops just to remember Him? :noidea:

Thanks,

Fiosh

:wub:

Because bread means something to God--just as Manna represented something to Israel, bread means the same thing. Just as the water out of the rock meant something to Israel, so does the Blood of Jesus mean the same to us! It is the same as in the OT. Jesus was there in the manna and in the water. He is now in the bread and the cup. Did the Jews eat Jesus literally? No. Do we? No.

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever

floatingaxe,

How is Jesus "in the bread and the cup"?

Thanks,

F

:wub:

How is He not? The bread is an emblem of Jesus, the Bread of Life! He is in the cup, as Living Water, just as in the wilderness for the Israelites. With Him we will never thirst. In the cup of remembrance, as Christ did, we use wine---which is emblematic of His shed blood.

So, He's not really "in the cup".....it just represents Him?

Yes, just as Jesus said.

So, you mis-spoke when you said, "He is now in the bread and the cup" ?


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Uh oh! Another Catholic sneaked in here. Who was supposed to be checking membership cards at the door? :taped:;)

Ya know. I was wonderin' sumthin'.

If Jesus simply wanted us to remember His sacrifice, why didn't He just say so? Why go thru all the motions with the bread and wine? :emot-questioned:

Can someone explain that to me? If you believe it's all symbolic, why does He have you jump thru all those hoops just to remember Him? :noidea:

Thanks,

Fiosh

:wub:

Because bread means something to God--just as Manna represented something to Israel, bread means the same thing. Just as the water out of the rock meant something to Israel, so does the Blood of Jesus mean the same to us! It is the same as in the OT. Jesus was there in the manna and in the water. He is now in the bread and the cup. Did the Jews eat Jesus literally? No. Do we? No.

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever

floatingaxe,

How is Jesus "in the bread and the cup"?

Thanks,

F

:wub:

How is He not? The bread is an emblem of Jesus, the Bread of Life! He is in the cup, as Living Water, just as in the wilderness for the Israelites. With Him we will never thirst. In the cup of remembrance, as Christ did, we use wine---which is emblematic of His shed blood.

So, He's not really "in the cup".....it just represents Him?

Yes, just as Jesus said.

So, you mis-spoke when you said, "He is now in the bread and the cup" ?

No, I never mis-spoke. There is no such thing as transsubstantiation, but as we partake of the emblems, He is in them...


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Uh oh! Another Catholic sneaked in here. Who was supposed to be checking membership cards at the door? :taped:;)

Ya know. I was wonderin' sumthin'.

If Jesus simply wanted us to remember His sacrifice, why didn't He just say so? Why go thru all the motions with the bread and wine? :emot-questioned:

Can someone explain that to me? If you believe it's all symbolic, why does He have you jump thru all those hoops just to remember Him? :noidea:

Thanks,

Fiosh

:wub:

Because bread means something to God--just as Manna represented something to Israel, bread means the same thing. Just as the water out of the rock meant something to Israel, so does the Blood of Jesus mean the same to us! It is the same as in the OT. Jesus was there in the manna and in the water. He is now in the bread and the cup. Did the Jews eat Jesus literally? No. Do we? No.

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever

floatingaxe,

How is Jesus "in the bread and the cup"?

Thanks,

F

:wub:

How is He not? The bread is an emblem of Jesus, the Bread of Life! He is in the cup, as Living Water, just as in the wilderness for the Israelites. With Him we will never thirst. In the cup of remembrance, as Christ did, we use wine---which is emblematic of His shed blood.

So, He's not really "in the cup".....it just represents Him?

Yes, just as Jesus said.

So, you mis-spoke when you said, "He is now in the bread and the cup" ?

No, I never mis-spoke. There is no such thing as transsubstantiation, but as we partake of the emblems, He is in them...

Please examine the following 2 statements and tell me which is correct:

1. which is emblematic of His shed blood.

2. He is in the cup

Is it a symbol or is Jesus really in the wine?

Thanks,

F


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Uh oh! Another Catholic sneaked in here. Who was supposed to be checking membership cards at the door? :wub::24:

Ya know. I was wonderin' sumthin'.

If Jesus simply wanted us to remember His sacrifice, why didn't He just say so? Why go thru all the motions with the bread and wine? :emot-questioned:

Can someone explain that to me? If you believe it's all symbolic, why does He have you jump thru all those hoops just to remember Him? :taped:

Thanks,

Fiosh

:wub:

Because bread means something to God--just as Manna represented something to Israel, bread means the same thing. Just as the water out of the rock meant something to Israel, so does the Blood of Jesus mean the same to us! It is the same as in the OT. Jesus was there in the manna and in the water. He is now in the bread and the cup. Did the Jews eat Jesus literally? No. Do we? No.

John 6:58

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your forefathers ate manna and died, but he who feeds on this bread will live forever

floatingaxe,

How is Jesus "in the bread and the cup"?

Thanks,

F

;)

How is He not? The bread is an emblem of Jesus, the Bread of Life! He is in the cup, as Living Water, just as in the wilderness for the Israelites. With Him we will never thirst. In the cup of remembrance, as Christ did, we use wine---which is emblematic of His shed blood.

So, He's not really "in the cup".....it just represents Him?

Yes, just as Jesus said.

So, you mis-spoke when you said, "He is now in the bread and the cup" ?

No, I never mis-spoke. There is no such thing as transsubstantiation, but as we partake of the emblems, He is in them...

You know I love picking on you :24: But I am curious also what you mean by "he is in them" . Lets explore that concept a little more. And I promise I won't argue. I am just interested in your thought on this. :noidea:

God Bless,

K.D.


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The original topic here was how often people take communion. Could we please keep it on topic, and refrain from starting yet another topic on the nature of the elements. Thanks


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The original topic here was how often people take communion. Could we please keep it on topic, and refrain from starting yet another topic on the nature of the elements. Thanks

Being how it was the OP who asked the question I don't see how this is a problem. Unless the nature of the elements is off limits to discuss.


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The original topic here was how often people take communion. Could we please keep it on topic, and refrain from starting yet another topic on the nature of the elements. Thanks

You're right, Eric. It was not the original topic. But it is a serious consideration, as we run the gamut on our beliefs about what the words of Jesus mean---and it is a crucial issue.

Could you please move the appropriate posts to a new thread?

Thanks,

Fiosh

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