The Watchmaker

[Wooden Ark]

Doctors from Oxford certainly don't say life came by chance...

Really? What do they say???

They say life came by Darwinian evolution, which, they say, has nothing to do with chance. Nice animations, though.

Edited January 18, 2007 by Wooden Ark

[Wooden Ark]

Evolution is supposed to be an ongoing process. Yours came to an end.

From what I've understood, evolution is not an individual process. You can say that Christianity has lead, by marriage, to someone being born. How does that mean their Christianity has come to an end when they are born? I don

[tdrehfal]

Evolution is supposed to be an ongoing process. Yours

came to an end.

Ha!

'I can't see it happening so it must not be happening.' Classic.

No, that's not what I said. I said that the process described came to a definite END once things 'settled down'.

[Wooden Ark]

I said that the process described came to a definite END once things 'settled down'.

What do you mean by this?

[tdrehfal]

I said that the process described came to a definite END once things 'settled down'.

What do you mean by this?

Look at the original hypothetical situation in question. Once the objects are 'sorted' by natural selection in this case, the process stops.

No more sorting can take place in this anology. It's not really even a very good way to describe the way you say evolution works.

[Wooden Ark]

Look at the original hypothetical situation in question. Once the objects are 'sorted' by natural selection in this case, the process stops.

No more sorting can take place in this anology. It's not really even a very good way to describe the way you say evolution works.

I never said how ev works.

But why do things settle down?

"Evolution", C, is adapting to the world, B. If B is continuously changing, why should C stop adapting?

If C is not changing, wherecometh time?

[tdrehfal]

Look at the original hypothetical situation in question. Once the objects are 'sorted' by natural selection in this case, the process stops.

No more sorting can take place in this anology. It's not really even a very good way to describe the way you say evolution works.

I never said how ev works.

But why do things settle down?

"Evolution", C, is adapting to the world, B. If B is continuously changing, why should C stop adapting?

If C is not changing, wherecometh time?

C shouldn't stop adapting at all. But C will still be an adapted C, and not a newly-evolved D.

[Wooden Ark]

C shouldn't stop adapting at all. But C will still be an adapted C, and not a newly-evolved D.

So If C is continuously changing, or adapting, how do things settle down?

[Questioner]

Questioner

If you want an example, imagine one of those beaches made of pebbles instead of sand. In the part of the beach subject to the action of the waves, the smaller and lighter pebbles are nearer to the water than the big and heavy pebbles are. You have order - the strength of the waves sorts the pebbles. However, that order arose from disorder through a completely automatic, mindless process. That should give you an idea of how evolution works.

Lol

[Questioner]

I don't know why I continue to drop my jaw at all the different explanations on how evolution works. Hmmm order arose from disorder through a completely automatic mindless process. that may be the best yet. Keep grasping and sharing theories but I have yet to encounter a non believer who offers more than that, just theories and conclusions. Conclusions that become reality because mere mortal man says so. Wow... now that is unbelievable!

So, where am I wrong? If all you can do is to laugh at me, maybe you don't have a good argument.