Christ's children

[stafy]

Who's the head of God's children?

I didn't think to list the options when I opened this topic. So here they are now:

a. God

b. The Father

c. Jesus the Christ before His resurrection

d. Christ after His resurrection

e. The Son

f. The Holy Spirit

g. The Trinity

this is one of those questions that goes nowhere, all of the above, who cares.

[Iryssa]

Didn't I answer that already?? I thought I replied to that question in post #17. What else do you need explained? If you can, please ask your question in different words, because I'm starting to get the feeling that there's some sort of communications breakdown here...either I'm just not understanding the nature of your question or you're wording your question in a way that is not accurately representing what you want to know.

You did and I replied explaining that the head of God's children couldn't be the Trinity. So I asked again.

Anybody who has been reading the other threads on the Godhead and really know their bibles know that God and Christ are NOT the same person. Proof can be provided or go read the other threads.

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Christ is in heaven sitting on the right hand of God.

The Word became flesh. Christ is both fully God and human. Ofcourse there is differientation between God the Father and God the Son because of the incarnation...

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Christ is also a God. And there are many other scriptures backing up the fact that the Godhead is made of 3 separate entities and are all three Gods.

The Son is O God NOT a God. See that as the verse says?

To answer the question, we are God's children -

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

You didn't answer the question at all. The question is, who is the head of God's children?

Ofcourse the intention of this thread is not to debate the deity of Christ but have you seen this verse?

"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily" (NKJV, KJV, ASV). Or: "For in Him all the fulness of Deity dwells in bodily form" (NASB, RSV, NIV is similar).

I never denied that Christ was God...where did I deny that Christ was God? I never even said he was A God...I said He is, was, and will always be God...the second member of the Trinity.

If you're not accepting my words when I say that Christ is One in the Trinity, and you're not accepting that He is the Head of the Church, I don't know what you want me to say. I see the evidence in the Bible for it* and I'm sticking to it.

*Edit: Evidence that I GAVE, by the way.

[firehill]

Who's the head of God's children?

I didn't think to list the options when I opened this topic. So here they are now:

a. God

b. The Father

c. Jesus the Christ before His resurrection

d. Christ after His resurrection

e. The Son

f. The Holy Spirit

g. The Trinity

this is one of those questions that goes nowhere, all of the above, who cares.

You don't have to care. You'd be surprised what the answer leads to. Your answer is WRONG!

[Iryssa]

Who's the head of God's children?

I didn't think to list the options when I opened this topic. So here they are now:

a. God

b. The Father

c. Jesus the Christ before His resurrection

d. Christ after His resurrection

e. The Son

f. The Holy Spirit

g. The Trinity

this is one of those questions that goes nowhere, all of the above, who cares.

You don't have to care. You'd be surprised what the answer leads to. Your answer is WRONG!

Your ability to tell us when our answers are "WRONG" seems to imply that you knwo what the answer is...so, do tell. I wait with bated breath.

[firehill]

I never denied that Christ was God...where did I deny that Christ was God? I never even said he was A God...I said He is, was, and will always be God...the second member of the Trinity.

If you're not accepting my words when I say that Christ is One in the Trinity, and you're not accepting that He is the Head of the Church, I don't know what you want me to say. I see the evidence in the Bible for it* and I'm sticking to it.

*Edit: Evidence that I GAVE, by the way.

I never said you denied that Christ was God. I know you never said that he was 'a' God. From what I gathered your answer was the Trinity is the head of God's children. Did I gather what you wrote incorrectly?

On the other hand, if your answer is Christ (though he is not the Trinity) then that is different.

[Iryssa]

I never denied that Christ was God...where did I deny that Christ was God? I never even said he was A God...I said He is, was, and will always be God...the second member of the Trinity.

If you're not accepting my words when I say that Christ is One in the Trinity, and you're not accepting that He is the Head of the Church, I don't know what you want me to say. I see the evidence in the Bible for it* and I'm sticking to it.

*Edit: Evidence that I GAVE, by the way.

I never said you denied that Christ was God. I know you never said that he was 'a' God. From what I gathered your answer was the Trinity is the head of God's children. Did I gather what you wrote incorrectly?

On the other hand, if your answer is Christ (though he is not the Trinity) then that is different.

I said "in a sense." I didn't really have the words to express what I meant by that at the time. What I mean is this: The Trinity is One in purpose. Though Christ is the Head of the Church in and of Himself, it is the will of the Trinity that He be so. Does that make more sense?

[firehill]

Your ability to tell us when our answers are "WRONG" seems to imply that you knwo what the answer is...so, do tell. I wait with bated breath.

Yes, I know the answer. I want someone else to give it though and the reason why. I want to hear other's answers and respond to those and their reasoning for their answer.

[firehill]

I never denied that Christ was God...where did I deny that Christ was God? I never even said he was A God...I said He is, was, and will always be God...the second member of the Trinity.

If you're not accepting my words when I say that Christ is One in the Trinity, and you're not accepting that He is the Head of the Church, I don't know what you want me to say. I see the evidence in the Bible for it* and I'm sticking to it.

*Edit: Evidence that I GAVE, by the way.

I never said you denied that Christ was God. I know you never said that he was 'a' God. From what I gathered your answer was the Trinity is the head of God's children. Did I gather what you wrote incorrectly?

On the other hand, if your answer is Christ (though he is not the Trinity) then that is different.

I said "in a sense." I didn't really have the words to express what I meant by that at the time. What I mean is this: The Trinity is One in purpose. Though Christ is the Head of the Church in and of Himself, it is the will of the Trinity that He be so. Does that make more sense?

Yes, you did say 'in a sense' but I still gathered that you meant the Trinity is the head of God's children.

Now what you've clarified is awesome.

Christ is the head of God's children.

All other answers are false. Unless any would like to debate that? If so I'll be here.

If any others would like to answer the question then I would still like to get their answers and their reasoning why before discussing the importance of the correct answer.

[Iryssa]

Well, then I'm sorry for the confusion. *rueful grin*

[firehill]

Well, then I'm sorry for the confusion. *rueful grin*