South Carolina Officially Bans Gay Marriage

[Oh Hamburgers!]

we wouldn't be OUTlawing anything, since gay marriages are currently NOT legal, except in one state.

we have a right for our children not to be brainwashed by social acceptance. we can teach them what sin is, but that doesn't mean we have to accept our children being exposed to the indoctrination by everything from prime time tv, to popular songs, all forms of media, and our schools.

you do have that right. but as of right now, if you turn on the tv, radio, news, or take your child to the school , you will find someone who is gay. so it is already there, being exposed. if they can marry or not should have no effect on you or your children.

That's pretty much how I see it. If gay marriage isn't legalized, gay people won't just suddenly vanish. Gay couples will still live with each other, gay couples will still settle down together. The only real difference is that the state would recognize that they are living together as a couple, and they would get many of the same legal rights that men and women get today in this country. That includes shared medicare, the rights to have a say in medical decisions towards the end of life, things like that.

[Questions4u]

exactly. and the worse thing that we could teach our children is to turn a blind eye to whats going on. or to pretend it doesnt exist.

[Guest LadyC]

gay unions have never, in any society, fallen under the definition of 'marriage' until very recent history.

if gay couples want the same rights that is given to spouses, i personally have no problem with that. but to change the definition of marriage to fit the demands of a small percentage of people is like giving in to the temper tantrums of a toddler. nothing good comes of it.

and it sends a message that it is legitimate, acceptable, and not sinful. that is something that harms all generations.

sorry some of you don't see it that way. but ya know, that's how God sees it, and He sees with far more clarity than any of us, because He sees ALL. past, present and future. i think i'll rely on His judgement.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

if gay couples want the same rights that is given to spouses, i personally have no problem with that. but to change the definition of marriage to fit the demands of a small percentage of people is like giving in to the temper tantrums of a toddler. nothing good comes of it.

That's interesting you say that, because that is almost exactly how I look at it. I don't think that the word "marriage" should be given to a homosexual relationship. I also don't think that churches should be required to treat a homosexual couple as "married", because that is a religious matter. But I have no problem with civil unions for homosexual couples given through legal and secular means, that basically gives them the same rights that marriage would give someone, only with the whole "marriage" part attached to it. In fact, I thought that that is what most homosexual activists are hoping for.

But I agree that "marriage" shouldn't be required to include homosexual relationships.

[Guest LadyC]

but that will never be good enough for homosexual activists. they won't stop until they can call it 'marriage' and until churches are required to perform gay marriages to avoid discrimination lawsuits.

and that is exactly what makes the whole situation so dangerous.

[Questions4u]

but that will never be good enough for homosexual activists. they won't stop until they can call it 'marriage' and until churches are required to perform gay marriages to avoid discrimination lawsuits.

and that is exactly what makes the whole situation so dangerous.

that is like saying they legalize pot, but you cant smoke it inside your house. Churches are owned by men. Meaning they have the right to refuse anything that goes in their Church, against their religion. Or the church members could vote on the subject. The same rights that make you free should be the rights for every living person.

but ya know, that's how God sees it, and He sees with far more clarity than any of us, because He sees ALL. past, present and future. i think i'll rely on His judgement.

That is an oxymoron. No offense intended, but this statement here helps my feelings exactly. because we cant see as God sees , is the reason they should have the same rights as you and me. Who are we to judge and say what they do is wrong.

[Guest LadyC]

questions, are you a Christian? just curious.

[kittyjo]

I just need to rant, so feel free to just skip on to the next post

Gay Marriage?

That is an oxymoron... homosexuality and marriage cannot be reconciled; it would be liken to a peanut butter and antifreeze sandwich, the two just do not 'go together'. Most do not want to be 'married' most enjoy the daily hunt for a new sexual conquest. Their idea of 'marriage' falls drastically short of what marriage was designed to be, in more ways than just the obvious. The homosexual 'desire' for 'marriage' is a relatively new idea. Historically, homosexuals have had not wanted anything to do with marriage/tradition... There has always been a celebration against the bourgeois, not a desire to be a part of it.

Mom has a second part time job as a case manager for what is basically a halfway house for gays with AIDS... The residents all love talking to mom, they openly share their veiws on many things and the majority all agree that 'gay marriage' is nothing more than propaganda to attack society norms. They see no purpose in it... Most would just want their current sex partner [which changes quite frequently] to be allowed as 'family' in medical situations... And possibly being able to draw medical benefits on a live-in lover [which also changes frequently]. BTW, they many that mom has spoken to do not believe that homosexuality is inborn. Most admit to just being addicted to sex and while another man would be their first choice, anyone/anything with an orafice will do, many have been married to a woman at one time or another.

The idea of civil unions does not bother me in theory, but there would be many catch 22's in practice, as well as it opening the door for the further crumbling of what little moral ground currently remains. I'm not sure I could condone what could be seen as a compromise to God's standards though. Allowing a society to accept such unions as normal is a road to it's downfall. Kat mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah, I'll add Ancient Greece and Rome to the list.

When did a sex act, become equal to race and religion? Gay rights are just another farce... Everyone already has the right to do as they wish in their bedrooms as long as it does not include children, force or fido. 'Gay Pride' is nothing more than drepravity. It degrades these people, it does nothing to lift them up. It is about the glorification of the wicked. Might as well be called Slut Pride, Skank Pride or Swinger Pride... Why be so discriminatory why not just lump it all together and be proud that society has sunk so low to be obsessed with playing in their pants like a two year old.

If I could I'd get a bull horn I would scream out duing one of those demonstrations/parades... "Quit playing with your genitals; put the X'tasy and viagra down the toilet; get dressed and DO SOMETHING REAL WITH YOUR LIFE!"

There is more to a person than the method of how one choses to 'pleasure' themselves. Why is there a need to enslave their entire identity to a sex act. If by illness or accident they should lose the ability to perform such sex acts do they become less of a person, do they lose their pride, their identity, their purpose? Can't they see how shallow and worthless it is to invest all their self worth in just a sex act! it makes absolutely no sense, it is not valid. It makes as much sense as:

Nose Picker's Pride Parade! Nose pickers have been discrininated against long enough, it is time for all pickers to unite and stand up to the stuffy establishment and shout out loud... I Pick and I'm Proud! You tell It, Loud and Proud Baby! Raise the flag with the golden raisin on it! Be proud! Do not let the bourgeois conservitives tell you it is sick, disgusting or that it spreads disease... We all know that if it feels good it is good! Pick and flick! Do it in the streets; at work; at lunch; in the elevator; at the gym; pick it in style at the mall; teach the children to be proud about it! Ugh...

It is all so stupid; so myopic; so self involved; so self worshiping! And because of the mind bending PC'isms there are actually some who have become brainwashed into thinking that it is valid; or at the very least allow themselves to be bullied by it. So many have become blinded, they cannot see the truth. All they really need is Jesus.

Personally I could care less about what or who anyone 'does' and really do not care to think about it. All I desire from my fellow man is that they behave well in public; respect themselves and others; respect the property of others; be self disiplined; have a good work ethic; respect and follow established rules/laws... That's all I want, I don't care what their religion, skin color, or favorite sex act of choice is. UGGGHHHH! Is that too much to ask?!!!

Allrighty, I'm done.

[Guest LadyC]

apparently it is too much to ask. i didn't want my kids to see gay lovers making out in public anymore than i wanted them to see heterosexual lovers making out in public. yet that's what they saw every day. because the lovers have no self-respect, much less any respect for others. ugh, i used to get so mad when i'd walk past the pool and see two teenagers wearing skimpy bathingsuits dry humping on a lawn chair in front of a pool full of children.... and equally mad when i'd drive past the bus stop and see a couple of girls making out together.

by the way, speaking of gay pride, what is that scripture again? the one that says that pride goes before the FALL?

[Questions4u]

I never said that it was right or wrong to be gay. But we should not say they cant live like other Americans, enjoying the same freedoms that us "normal" people have. I have heard that being gay is a mental disorder. (i will do more research on that to see if it is true) but, if that is the case, then they have no control over their lifestyle. And i have never heard of a mute going to hell because he/she could not ask the Lord into their heart.

As far as the people addicted to sex, i would not see how a marriage would benifit them at all. Those arent the people asking for the right of marriage.

Ladyc, No. Im not a "Christian" in the sense you ask. I do believe that God has sent me to this site to seek answers. and i do love the conversation i am getting with everyone, even if i do feel differently than others.

but i will have some more info on the "mental disorder" in a little while.