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re: YHVH rested on the 7th day - Is the 7th day complete?

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Note that in Gen. 2:1-3 on the 7th day it says God rested but doesn't end with "and the evening and the sun were the 7th day" as the other 6 end.

Then in Gen. 2:4 it says that this is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that Lord God made the earth and the heavens, but what a minute...didn't it take 6? Day doesn't always mean 24 hour day, ie, day of the Lord, there are many Hebrew words used for day, some mean a span of time, a unti of time, a period of time, there are a lot of them, but they translate to day and confuse us if we don't take the time to study them out.

If you asking whether or not we should rest on the Seventh day, that depends on whether you rest on the law or on Jesus.

The following is borrowed from a friend:

The word "Law" occurs over 400 times in Scripture, and refers to the entire Law, comprising ceremonial feasts, special days, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, cleansings etc. The term never applies solely to either the ten.

Regarding the Ten Commandments, Exodus 20:2 states, "I am the Lord your God, who BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, out of the house of slavery".

The ten commandments were obviously given to those who had been brought out of the land of Egypt. This would limit the ten commandments to God's chosen people, the Israelites, the Jews.

Deuteronomy 5:3 shows that the Law was binding on those Israelites or Jews alive in MOSES' day. "The LORD did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, with all those of us alive here today." Therefore, this covenant was not made to Adam, Noah Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, etc.

"And you shall remember that YOU WERE A SLAVE IN THE LAND OF EGYPT and the LORD your God brought you out of there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; THEREFORE the LORD your God commanded you to OBSERVE THE SABBATH DAY."

. Leviticus, chapter 23 lists several "Holy Convocations". The first-mentioned one is the seventh-day sabbath The chapter goes on to list other "holy convocations", namely the Passover, the Feast of Unleavened bread, the Wave offering, the Feast of Booths, etc. All are identified as "holy convocations". Why then claim that the first one mentioned, namely the seventh-day sabbath, is NOT "ceremonial", but ALL OTHERS listed are! Let's interpret the Bible honestly, and in context.

"Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or A SABBATH DAY--things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." (Col. 2:16,17).

The Law was our tutor, or teacher leading us to Christ. Galations 3:25 concludes ! "we are no longer under a tutor". ! The Law divided Jews from Gentiles, so Christ abolished it. (Ephesians 2:14-16).

Even the Jews knew the old Law Covenant would pass away Jeremiah 31:31 says,

"Behold the days are coming", declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".

God would write His new law on people's hearts (vs. 33). Jesus Christ Himself instituted the new covenant. (See 1 Corinthians 11:25), fulfilling and abolishing the old Law covenant. Yes, the old Law Covenant, including the seventh-day sabbath observance is now over. The letter of the Law is finished. Christ Himself is described as the end (Greek, "telos" or "terminator") of the Law. (Romans 10:4).

Romans 8:2-4,

"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did; sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin. He condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit."!


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" re: YHVH rested on the 7th day - Is the 7th day complete?"

" For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: But the word preached did not profit them: not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as He said, As I have sworn in My wrath, if they shall enter into My rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For He spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, and God did rest on the seventh day from all His works. And in this place again, if they shall enter into My rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief, again, He limiteth a certain day, saying in David, today, after so long a time, as it is said, today if ye will hear His voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest , then would He not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into His rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." Heb. 4:2-11.

Is it complete? As a believer in the Saving Grace of Jesus Christ, for me it is complete. But for the unbeliever, it is unfinished business. The Grace of God is extended for all to enter into that rest, even today.

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Then in Gen. 2:4 it says that this is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that Lord God made the earth and the heavens, but what a minute...didn't it take 6? Day doesn't always mean 24 hour day, ie, day of the Lord, there are many Hebrew words used for day, some mean a span of time, a unti of time, a period of time, there are a lot of them, but they translate to day and confuse us if we don't take the time to study them out.

You are leaning to your own understanding. God is not a respecter of persons, and The Holy Spirit being the author of all Scripture, they mean what ever they say in the language they are written in. When God said morning and evening that is what it means. He tells us also in later Scriptures that man is do his work in 6 days, and rest the 7th, just the same as He did.


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His Son,

Rick posted the accurate scripture, you can enter the rest that Jesus promised, "Rest for your soul" or you can continue to rest in the law as Israel has done. Everything Israel was promised in the natural is promised to the New Testament Christian in the spiritual, of course if you are living in the natural the Spiritual is nonsense so you will not understand anything about the Rest that is promised to those who believe.


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His Son,

Rick posted the accurate scripture, you can enter the rest that Jesus promised, "Rest for your soul" or you can continue to rest in the law as Israel has done. Everything Israel was promised in the natural is promised to the New Testament Christian in the spiritual, of course if you are living in the natural the Spiritual is nonsense so you will not understand anything about the Rest that is promised to those who believe.

We enter Jesus's rest when we like Him are in God's will. But we are still here, and we are still part of the physical realm, and we are told by Him to provide for our physical needs in 6 Days, and rest with Him on 7th day. And as long as we remain in God's will we are in His rest.


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The author of Hebrews must have realized as he wrote that, on the surface, there had been an apparent large-scale exception to his claim that no people had ever entered a "rest" of God. After all, the second generation of Israelites who were saved from Egypt did enter the Promised Land under Joshua. We read that under Joshua "the Lord had given Israel rest from all their enemies around them" (Joshua 23:1). But the writer of Hebrews quickly points out that this is not the kind of "rest" he has in mind, or one that constituted God


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