ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted August 17, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Share Posted August 17, 2007 The smidge at the end of this post I selected/pasted was from a Prophecy given by a worldwide well-known Pentecostal Christian ministry that is on TV weekly. I personally had/have hardly any reason to believe that it is/was a true prophecy. Still on line on that ministry's website last time I checked. George Bush our Evangelical Christian president has stated that he appeals to a "higher Father" for wisdom and has stated that he is trying to do God's will and does not claim that God told him to start the Iraq War. Ever since 1991 I have been given INTENSE real teachings on 1John 4:1-6. Have had 1 and 2 way communication with 1John 4:2 as well as 1John 4:3 spirits. Wrote that ministry a few years back and asked [as I have been asking various people claiming to be prophets and/or giving prophecies over the years] if 1John 4:1-6 was obeyed as The Word of God/God/The Holy Ghost COMMANDS:answer was not yes. In all the other cases with the various people answer was never yes. Never. I've already formed a spiritual judgment-have been considering this amongst many other subjects for a considerable number of years. PLEASE DO NOT FOWARD THIS ANYWHERE! > > ........................................ > > [i cut this out of a 2002 document]: > > > > > > > > Now here's what the Lord wanted me to tell you: > > > > "Certain mistakes concerning Israel, had they been > > made by other presidents of the United States, > would > > have brought trouble on the United States because > of > > unscriptural decisions where Israel is concerned. > > However, George Bush has a willing heart. He has a > > right heart before God. He'll do anything I tell > him > > to do, once he knows I'm telling him to do it. And > the > > mistakes he's made, I'm covering for him because > of > > his willing heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLuke Posted August 17, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 628 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1985 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ever since 1991 I have been given INTENSE real teachings on 1John 4:1-6. Have had 1 and 2 way communication with 1John 4:2 as well as 1John 4:3 spirits. Wrote that ministry a few years back and asked [as I have been asking various people claiming to be prophets and/or giving prophecies over the years] if 1John 4:1-6 was obeyed as The Word of God/God/The Holy Ghost COMMANDS:answer was not yes. In all the other cases with the various people answer was never yes. Never. What is you are trying to say here though? That these people from the TV are false prophets? I'm not sure I completely understand the point in this post.. It might just be me being tired though! > > ........................................ > > [i cut this out of a 2002 document]: > > > > > > > > Now here's what the Lord wanted me to tell you: > > > > "Certain mistakes concerning Israel, had they been > > made by other presidents of the United States, > would > > have brought trouble on the United States because > of > > unscriptural decisions where Israel is concerned. > > However, George Bush has a willing heart. He has a > > right heart before God. He'll do anything I tell > him > > to do, once he knows I'm telling him to do it. And > the > > mistakes he's made, I'm covering for him because > of > > his willing heart. Yes I have seen this before somewhere hmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted August 18, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 Ever since 1991 I have been given INTENSE real teachings on 1John 4:1-6. Have had 1 and 2 way communication with 1John 4:2 as well as 1John 4:3 spirits. Wrote that ministry a few years back and asked [as I have been asking various people claiming to be prophets and/or giving prophecies over the years] if 1John 4:1-6 was obeyed as The Word of God/God/The Holy Ghost COMMANDS:answer was not yes. In all the other cases with the various people answer was never yes. Never. What is you are trying to say here though? That these people from the TV are false prophets? I'm not sure I completely understand the point in this post.. It might just be me being tired though! > > ........................................ > > [i cut this out of a 2002 document]: > > > > > > > > Now here's what the Lord wanted me to tell you: > > > > "Certain mistakes concerning Israel, had they been > > made by other presidents of the United States, > would > > have brought trouble on the United States because > of > > unscriptural decisions where Israel is concerned. > > However, George Bush has a willing heart. He has a > > right heart before God. He'll do anything I tell > him > > to do, once he knows I'm telling him to do it. And > the > > mistakes he's made, I'm covering for him because > of > > his willing heart. Yes I have seen this before somewhere hmm.. Purposely did not identify ministry-Galatians 6:1-2 amongst other Scriptures. Dr. Smith's 1884 Bible Dictionary under "Satan" suggests slander amongst other methods to try to break the bond of Truth and Love that binds us to God and one another. <><><><><>< Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: ... 2 Thessalonians 2:4 Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Jhn 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliyahuw Posted August 18, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,263 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/11/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/17/1961 Share Posted August 18, 2007 why is it that people today need a prophet so bad their willing to follow anyone that claims to be a prophet of God anywhere! We had Christ come and tell us all that is needed to know! it's recorded in the bible. Genesis has the beginning of the world/universe and Revelation has the end of the world/universe and everything in between has been prophecied. why do people need some new revelation! ?? Isn't the word of God, and christs teachings enough?? isn't his prophacies enough, isn't the last prophet's words, (john) enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted August 19, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted August 19, 2007 why is it that people today need a prophet so bad their willing to follow anyone that claims to be a prophet of God anywhere! We had Christ come and tell us all that is needed to know! it's recorded in the bible. Genesis has the beginning of the world/universe and Revelation has the end of the world/universe and everything in between has been prophecied. why do people need some new revelation! ?? Isn't the word of God, and christs teachings enough?? isn't his prophacies enough, isn't the last prophet's words, (john) enough? From the Scriptures and reality it seems plausible that the world may have been forced into doing so {e.g. 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 13,...}. What many say is future may be past/present. "We see through a glass darkly..." Matthew 24:8 (Amplified Bible) Amplified Bible (AMP) Copyright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kari21 Posted August 19, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 140 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,846 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/05/1987 Share Posted August 19, 2007 why is it that people today need a prophet so bad their willing to follow anyone that claims to be a prophet of God anywhere! We had Christ come and tell us all that is needed to know! it's recorded in the bible. Genesis has the beginning of the world/universe and Revelation has the end of the world/universe and everything in between has been prophecied. why do people need some new revelation! ?? Isn't the word of God, and christs teachings enough?? isn't his prophacies enough, isn't the last prophet's words, (john) enough? I think it's because a lot of people do not WANT to believe all that is written in Scripture. Like the Bible says about those who have "itchy ears." They hear only what they WANT to hear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terter Posted August 20, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 473 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2007 OP = I'm not sure what you're trying to say - the scripture says, "...IF it were possible, the very elect would be deceived." Matt 24:24 Prophets are still here until believers are home with Christ Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLuke Posted August 20, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 628 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1985 Share Posted August 20, 2007 OP = I'm not sure what you're trying to say - the scripture says, "...IF it were possible, the very elect would be deceived." Matt 24:24 Prophets are still here until believers are home with Christ Jesus. And to ajesuschrist_mathetes, I'm still unsure of the point you are trying to bring here? You seem to be talking in riddles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted August 20, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2007 OP = I'm not sure what you're trying to say - the scripture says, "...IF it were possible, the very elect would be deceived." Matt 24:24 Prophets are still here until believers are home with Christ Jesus. And to ajesuschrist_mathetes, I'm still unsure of the point you are trying to bring here? You seem to be talking in riddles.. I agree in that I am having trouble discerning the cental point here. Perhaps the OP could clarify for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted August 20, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Author Share Posted August 20, 2007 OP = I'm not sure what you're trying to say - the scripture says, "...IF it were possible, the very elect would be deceived." Matt 24:24 Prophets are still here until believers are home with Christ Jesus. And to ajesuschrist_mathetes, I'm still unsure of the point you are trying to bring here? You seem to be talking in riddles.. I agree in that I am having trouble discerning the cental point here. Perhaps the OP could clarify for us On the website rbc.org [for "Radio Bible Class", a ministry that I regard very highly] there is a booklet entitled "The Daniel Papers". Not that I agree with all in that booklet, but there is a statement regarding the anti-Trinity:the anti-Father, the anti-Spirit, the anti-Christ. Depends on how one interprets the book of Revelation [esp. chapter 12 and 13] and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 {2 meanings of "temple"} and where we are in the Endtimes to understand this chain. Consider also: Eze 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. All Scripture from Genesis 1:1-Revelation 22:21. Please Galatians 6:1-2 for all. Please consider carefully Dr. Smith's 1884 Bible Dictionary under Satan-slander to try to break the bonds of Truth and Love that bind us to God and one another. May The Holy Spirit give us all Light ="light of the kosmos"=Jesus. Be IN Him. The Truth: 3Jo 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. Love,joy,peace,grace and all blessings to all. Maranatha THE Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. THE. Amen... Ron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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