kittylover0991 Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Share Posted September 14, 2007 This is a question that arose in my Doctrine III class: Exd 21:22-23 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life." One could assume the phrase "if any mischeif follow" to mean if the child dies, but if this is the case, what is the significance of "so that her fruit depart from her"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dameo Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2007 Exo 21:22 If men strive and strike a pregnant woman, so that her child comes out, and there is no injury, he shall surely be punished, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2007 This is a question that arose in my Doctrine III class: Exd 21:22-23 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life." One could assume the phrase "if any mischeif follow" to mean if the child dies, but if this is the case, what is the significance of "so that her fruit depart from her"? The idea is that if a man strikes a woman and it causes her to give birth prematurely to a live child, there is only a fine. If there are any injuries to the child or it dies, then the princille is, "life for life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted September 14, 2007 This is a question that arose in my Doctrine III class: Exd 21:22-23 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life." One could assume the phrase "if any mischeif follow" to mean if the child dies, but if this is the case, what is the significance of "so that her fruit depart from her"? The idea is that if a man strikes a woman and it causes her to give birth prematurely to a live child, there is only a fine. If there are any injuries to the child or it dies, then the princille is, "life for life" Perfect answer...back then woman were not worth much and it is a shame to think this statement was needed to protect the pregnant woman....patricia1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittylover0991 Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 490 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 2,726 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/25/1990 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 This is a question that arose in my Doctrine III class: Exd 21:22-23 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life." One could assume the phrase "if any mischeif follow" to mean if the child dies, but if this is the case, what is the significance of "so that her fruit depart from her"? The idea is that if a man strikes a woman and it causes her to give birth prematurely to a live child, there is only a fine. If there are any injuries to the child or it dies, then the princille is, "life for life" So in other words... the fruit that passes from her is if the child dies early.... however, the life for a life is ONLY if the child is dead at birth or has some form of serious ingury? What about the disorders such a baby missing parts of it skin, or ones where children can walk, or even things such as palsy, etc?? Erich, do you know of any place where I can get some good information to back up what you said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajesuschrist_mathetes Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 572 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1944 Share Posted September 14, 2007 (edited) Have you gone to blueletterbible.com and typed in that Scripture reference? Look to the left of the screen, and click on L. Gives a selection and various commentaries. Edited September 14, 2007 by ajesuschrist_mathetes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted September 14, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted September 14, 2007 odd i guess now, but previously i had thought the phrase "if any mischief follow" meant rape. i'm not sure about that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dameo Posted September 15, 2007 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 6 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2007 kitty, the fruit that passes from her is if the child is born as a result of the impact and the man will be punished and fined but if their is something wrong as a result of impact, ...the eye for eye, etc.. is applied, so if the baby dies - so does the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boblandis Posted September 17, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 252 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,859 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/04/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/16/1963 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Tht's bad news to abortionists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiaging Posted September 24, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 87 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/05/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2007 This is a question that arose in my Doctrine III class: Exd 21:22-23 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if [any] mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life." One could assume the phrase "if any mischeif follow" to mean if the child dies, but if this is the case, what is the significance of "so that her fruit depart from her"? Men strive, means men are fighting. During the fight they hurt a pregnant woman (possibly the wife of one of them) causing her to have a miscarriage and a dead baby. No mischief follows meaning no one takes revenge against the guy that hurt the woman. The man will be punished for causing the miscarriage according to what the woman's husband and the judges say. But if any mischief follow, like the husband of the woman takes revenge and kills the guy that caused the miscarriage, then the husband will be executed for murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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