HillaryCare 2.0

[kat8585]

I just thought of something, and I can't believe it just occured to me. Do we really believe this $110 billion is all it will cost? How long before it doubles? And so on.....

[rtwo]

I just thought of something, and I can't believe it just occured to me. Do we really believe this $110 billion is all it will cost? How long before it doubles? And so on.....

I doubt even Hillary thinks it'll only cost 110 billion.

[Shortstop]

1. Would we not have adequate money in the budget if we didn't pay for non-citizen's health care needs? OR if we do, charge their citizen country for their care....

Yes, we would. We are footing the bill for emergency room visits for nonemergencies and maternity care for millions of people who are not entitled.

2. Throw out all plans but the top 5, rework those and still allows us to choose....

Yes; have a choice of health plans, paid for according to income. But, NO free ride for anyone unless they are disabled or over 70. I personally know people from South America and Mexico who won't sign up for the company plan because they can go to the clinics and the emergency rooms. Everyone should have to pay their way.

3. Give all people the same retirement benefits that our governement gets....(Okay this has nothing to do with insurance, it's my own little riot.)

Yes, good idea. Unfortunately, it won't happen.

4. Put limits with some bending room on the amount of times you could see a doctor each year....This will control costs...Why? Have you ever walked into a free clinic? I have...It's always packed wall to wall...Now just imagine free health care for all and that chair you claim in your doctor's office will fill quickly....If you have never walked into free clinic, do so...Go see for yourself what free health care will bring....

Yes, this is true. I have taken others to these clinics and they are packed to the ceiling ALL the time. And English is not spoken too often.

The bottom line is....we need an overhaul of the health care system in the U.S. and all the partisan sniping and political posturing won't change that fact. Whether it's 'Hillary Care', or something totally opposite, things have to change. I would be inclined to vote for the candidate that has some ideas that are workable. We speak with our votes, folks, so vote for the candidate that makes health care a priority.

I would disagree... I don't think healthcare is the government's job, so I don't care where it is on their list, as long as they're not planning on interfering with private lives.

No, healthcare is not the governments job to provide it BUT I do hold the governement responsible for NOT protecting the American people from the following...

1. Big business lobbiest...

2. Healthcare costs rising at a rate most American's can not afford...

3. Healthcare premiums soaring at a rate that is unattainable. For example: My husband's company, which employee's 300 plus people, less than 80 people govern for the companies healthcare. In one year's time our premium went from $480 dollars a month to $1100.00 dollars a month. Yes, that would be 13,200 a year just for the premiums. That is profit motive driven insurance companies at their best, why? Because health insurance is a big lobbiest that is purchasing OUR government and the insurance company is getting away with it AND those who refuse to sign up for it because they can just go to those FREE clinics...

Government is supposed to be for the people, but somewhere down the line it became "Government for self interest, ridiculous earmarks, and lobbiest money." If our government would have kept it's eye's on the people of this country our borders would have remained protected and this surge of illegal aliens would not have happened. Don't let me leave off the biggie, OIL! Oil, oil, oil.........Our government is driven by oil.....

When Goverment fails to protect the American people things begin to fall apart around us...Systems begin to break down, systems become overloaded and backed up, where there was once a surplus, now there is mega debt and that my friend affects my private life. How does it affect my private life? I will start out with the street I live on, can't get anymore private than that....30 years ago, the street I live on consisted of elderly people, it was quite and and peaceful through here. Everyone kept their yards mowed...Elderly couples walked in the street in the morning and in the evening...NOW...Fast forward to 2007...I have to drive slowly down my street now, not to avoid the elderly, but to avoid running over the chickens that are now running loose all over the place because those who are from a distant country feel it is okay to bring this zoo out in the open. Not to mention the goats that eat the garden....The peaceful sound has been replaced with a music I can't understand, with of course the occasional YELL! I didn't realize that 8 families could fit into a SINGLE family dwelling until these past 15 years now....Where once green plush yards once were, now is covered with dust because front yards became a driveway, thus it is impossible to keep my car clean because the swish of dust flies through the air as each car passes my house...What grass the car tires did not kill, the goats eat...The drunken driving rates have soared especially in my neighborhood, why? Some genius thought it would be profitable to build a huge spanish dancehall right in our neighborhood. This place is 2 stories and can contain 1000's of people. He makes 250,000 dollars in one night PROFIT! Just this past year, he built a second one right next to it. These two places are at the edge of my neighborhood and right next to the freeway. I can no longer drive out on a Saturday night because #1 the streets are clogged with traffic and it has become very dangerous to stay out late especially when people begin to leave these places...

I am not saying this in prejudice at all...This is actually my life situation and I live it every day....This is my surroundings....Government, or shall I say lack of government has already affected my private life....They have shut their eyes to REAL situations because of greed and self interests....

One last thing....You say 110 billion dollars to anyone making let's say 12,000 a year and it will sound like a windfall...It will make sense to the poor man because his concept of money is different than someone who makes a million dollars a year....So to say 110 billion dollars will pay for it all is a joke....

Edited September 21, 2007 by Shortstop