Soul and Spirit

[Catsmeow]

The spirit is that eternal part of us that is in communication with the Holy Spirit.

John,

I think there's an almost "electric" component to it...I know that sounds funny...but I have prayed in really intense prayers sessions with other spirit-filled people and I could feel something like an electrical current seeming to flow through me...a sense of power...Hard to explain.

I also notice this whenever I am being compelled by the Lord to do something important...whether it's helping a homeless person or something God is directing me to do..there's an invisible force or something...(hard to describe).

So what you're saying makes sense to me there...

[Catsmeow]

Paul just wasn

[Dad Ernie]

Greetings All,

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

Rom 8:10 And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness.

2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

My thoughts go to a new born baby. The "soul" that makes him different from the dust, is what the Bible calls a "living being". KJV says:

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Undoubtedly it was the breath (spirit) of God upon the dust that created this "life".

Now a baby has only physical needs. It is solely concerned with itself. From the moment it is born, and in fact before that in the womb, this baby's "spirit" begins to take form. A mother listening to hard rock during fetal development has just the opposite effect on the baby of a mother who listens to quiet or religious oriented music. What goes into a mother, whether it be music, food, drugs etc. - all have an effect on the formation of this child, including its SPIRIT.

I'm sure you all have seen pictures of Biafra babies, all maciated, with no "spirit" in their eyes. Sometimes they are referred to as being without a soul, but that is not true, because they ARE alive, but their SPIRIT is dead. They have NO life in them. No spark of motivation to do anything but to lay there quietly and just die.

A child reared under wretched parents instill in that child an image of themselves. A spirit with a tendency toward being wretched. In conjunction with this the Lord says "Raise up a child in the way he should go...." If you want an evil child, then you will raise him wickedly. But if you want a Godly child, you will raise him up in the admonition of the Lord. The SPIRIT in that child will develop according to a lot of factors, but they firstly and mainly come from the parents/guardians.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[Catsmeow]

I'm sure you all have seen pictures of Biafra babies, all maciated, with no "spirit" in their eyes. Sometimes they are referred to as being without a soul, but that is not true, because they ARE alive, but their SPIRIT is dead. They have NO life in them. No spark of motivation to do anything but to lay there quietly and just die.

DE: I've never heard of Biafra babies. I did a Google search and all I found was references to either children in Africa or Africa or an atheist group with really vulgar lyrics about abortion and the Lord Jesus...*pretty evil site..stay out.

I found nothing of what you were talking about...where did you hear about this?

[Guest idolsmasher]

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

That's the verse I wanted. I think this shows that the dust of the flesh plus the spirit of the breath of life from God combine to create the soul,. The soul is your complete being, body and spirit. In the resurrection the dead in Christ receive their bodies again whole and restored, just like Jesus was after his resurrection, having flesh and bone.

[mobile21]

What exactly is the difference between the soul and the spirit of a man?

I haven't found anything in scripture to explain exactly what they are...

I have been "told" that the spirit is the mind, will and emotions of a man but I sure can't find anything in scripture that actually tells us what the soul is or what the spirit is.

I only find conjecture by human beings...and they seem to disagree with each other.

I kinda thought that we have a "spirit body" that separates from the physical body at time of death.

I figured that the "soul" was a permanent recording of our mental capacity that goes with the spirit at time of "departure".

But I can't find anything in scripture to substantiate that.

I'd appreciate ANY enlightenment on this subject...

The soul refers to our spiritual body.

The spirit means the particular characteristics of a person, kind of the essence of the person.

[Guest idolsmasher]

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

That's the verse I wanted. I think this shows that the dust of the flesh plus the spirit of the breath of life from God combine to create the soul,. The soul is your complete being, body and spirit. In the resurrection the dead in Christ receive their bodies again whole and restored, just like Jesus was after his resurrection, having flesh and bone.

So in other words, when we talk about "saving souls" or "getting souls saved", it means their whole being, since after the resurrection they are once again body and spirit and living in the heavenly realm with Jesus.

[WayneB]

Paul just wasn

[Blood Stained Soul]

I found these verses in the New Living Translation fascinating>....

2 Corinthians 12:1-4

1 This boasting is all so foolish, but let me go on. Let me tell about the visions and revelations I received from the Lord. 2 I was caught up into the third heaven fourteen years ago. 3 Whether my body was there or just my spirit, I don't know; only God knows. 4 But I do know that I was caught up into paradise and heard things so astounding that they cannot be told.

This has nothing really to do with what all of you are talking about but I would like to shed some light on this scripture...who knows maybe it will help out...did you know if you traced back in history to the moment he was talking about, that event was when he was stoned outside of town in ACTS..now we know that when someone is being stoned they do not stop till your dead..hence the reason disciples gathered around him and prayed..so he was in fact dead as a door nail when this happened, though he himself was unsure...and might I say...whom among us would be....

[Catsmeow]

Ecclesiastes 12:6

Two more Scriptures that may cast some light on the subject:

1 Corinthians 15:42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Saved: That's the verse I was looking for...about the spiritual body.. Thanks!