IAM from the uk

[Guest candy1]

hello my friends i would love to know what you think about Lord supper. is any one allowed to take it?

Should really allow young kids to take even tho they don't know the reason why they take it.?

and should any Bread use ?

[Trusting Jesus]

I think that an understanding of the Lord's Supper is important before a person takes it. It is a very important part of Christian worship and a time to prayerfully look inside to see what needs to be forgiven or changed. Since a young child may not have the understanding of what it is all about and a non-believer hasn't got a clue what it is about, I don't think they should be really encouraged to join in. On the other hand, I don't think they will be struck by lightening if they do!

The wine, of course, represents Christ's blood, and the bread represents His body. Since it was the Passover meal which Christ and his disciples were eating the bread was unleavened, so we too should use unleavened bread.

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[Richard_yaash]

hello my friends i would love to know what you think about Lord supper. is any one allowed to take it?

Should really allow young kids to take even tho they don't know the reason why they take it.?

and should any Bread use ?

Hi Candy,

As I have not as of yet welcomed you to Worthy, please allow me to do so now: Welcome to Worthy.

The "Lord's/Last Supper" is an interesting topic, one filled with a great amount of depth IMO. It is also perhaps a topic that has been discussed/debated many times on this forum as well as many other forums. Given that, perhaps we might be able to explore this a little in friendly ***discussion***.

Let's consider for a moment if you will Judas' partaking in the "Last Supper": If memory serves, according to the first three 'Gospel' accounts, it is unclear as to which Judas actually took part in. According to Luke, John and Paul in 1 Corinthians 11 we see that it was *after* supper in which the cup was partaken of. If we look at John 13, we see that immediately after having partaken of the 'bread' that Judas left.

Considering this, what is perhaps the symbolism involved with Judas partaking of the 'body', but not of the (covering) 'blood'?

As for partaking of the "Lord's Supper", it is my opinion that those wishing to do so should be informed and have an understanding of that which they are about to partake of (consider Paul's warning(s) in 1 Cor. 11). This is one of those places in which I esteem the Catholic faith, for they do indeed teach and prepare their young for this before they may participate. (I do not hold any denomination above another, I think we all have positive points to offer).

Now, with regard to the 'bread': What Greek word is used for the 'bread'? 'Artos' or 'azumos'? What are the implications of each?

To further this: The Passover is a 'sacrifice', it is not a day. It is a 'sacrifice' that is to be done in the appropriate month, on the appropriate day, at the appropriate time. When is/are those appropriate month(s), day, time? I include 'month(s)' as it was also allowed in another month for certain reasons which are easy to tie in with this.

If 'Jesus' is our Passover 'Lamb' (cf 1 Cor 5:7-8), could he both have eaten the Passover as well as be the Passover since the sacrifice is required upon a specific day and time.

Please, let us keep this to friendly discussion only...

Richard

Edited February 3, 2008 by Richard_yaash

[Irenicus]

Hello and welcome. I have two things to say on this. Firstly, would Jesus turn away children, regardless of whether they fully understood it? I doubt it. I think if they wish to partake, there is no problem. Remember that we are told to come to Him as little children, with that blind faith, even if we do not fully understand. Second thing is I wouldn't get too carried away with what kind of bread to use. Jesus was extremely critical of the pharisees because they were too fucused on the "rules", rather than the spirit of it. Use white bread, rye, wholemeal, leavened, unleavened. It does not matter to God I don't think. As long as your spirit and heart are in the right place He will be pleased. Hope this helps.

[EricH]

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[AndrewA]

If you do not know Christ as your saviour, or, in other words if you are not "born again", then you should not take communion otherwise known as the Lords Supper, but simply let it go by. This is applicable to any age, so any child who has accepted Christ can take it.

As for what you use for bread and wine it matters not. Bread comes in many forms and still is the mosts basic food found everywhere in the world, which is the whole point, it is simple, it is easy to obtain and accessible to all. Bread also varies from country to country and differs throughout history. In our church we use a well known brand of crisp bread. Imagine the problems if Christ used something else like a baked potato! But no, Christ took bread, a common everyday food that every person through all history and the whole globe can have access too. wonderful is it not!

Wine was something and still is something that most people have access to and have in their homes, how people drink wine again varies from country to country, certainly back in Roman times wine was produced same as we have today, however it was seldom drunk in this form but was often watered down significantly. Again how people or a church decide to take communion is up to them, use proper wine in tiny thimble cup, watered down wine, non alcoholic, grape juice, flavored water, all acceptable with non being the more "proper" way of doing things.

We should not relegate Communion to a mere ritual or get obsessed in being "authentic", if we had to use exact foods or drinks there would be clear instruction to do so, instead we are just told "bread and wine" which is broad and covers many things all readily available to just about every person on earth.

We have to remember its the symbolism and the wording or what it represents ,, That is what is important, the sacrifice that Jesus made for us, "do this in remembrance of me" is what Christ said, When we eat the bread, it is to remember Christs body broken for us on the cross, THAT is the first important part, the other is that when we drink the wine , we simply have to remember Christs Blood spilt and shed for us as the ultimate sacrifice so that we are forgiven through it.

Satan uses Church as battle ground, one where we are least on our guard, how can somthing so simple as Communion be turned into such a widely debated point? Why is it that we argue over such trival things such as what type of bread to use , when clearly anything resembling bread is acceptable? The asnwer is Satan, we become so obsessed in infighting over stupid and pointless technicalities and historical accuracies and points of translation, we loose sight of what is important, in this case how amazingly simply and wonderful communion is and what stands for.