Feminism

[Blien]

I was just having a discussion on feminism with some secular people and wondered what you guys thought about it... it seems King Solomon suffered much under feminists during his day.. the Jezebels of the past are still here today.

I feel his pain on some of his words here.. but the women who caused the same pain where not Godly ones.. and of the devil.

Ecclesiastes 7: 25-29

25 So I turned my mind to understand,

to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things

and to understand the stupidity of wickedness

and the madness of folly.

26 I find more bitter than death

the woman who is a snare,

whose heart is a trap

and whose hands are chains.

The man who pleases God will escape her,

but the sinner she will ensnare.

27 "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered:

"Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-

28 while I was still searching

but not finding—

I found one upright man among a thousand,

but not one upright woman among them all.

29 This only have I found:

God made mankind upright,

but men have gone in search of many schemes."

[Guest juiceman777]

I was just having a discussion on feminism with some secular people and wondered what you guys thought about it... it seems King Solomon suffered much under feminists during his day.. the Jezebels of the past are still here today.

I feel his pain on some of his words here.. but the women who caused the same pain where not Godly ones.. and of the devil.

Ecclesiastes 7: 25-29

25 So I turned my mind to understand,

to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things

and to understand the stupidity of wickedness

and the madness of folly.

26 I find more bitter than death

the woman who is a snare,

whose heart is a trap

and whose hands are chains.

The man who pleases God will escape her,

but the sinner she will ensnare.

27 "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered:

"Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-

28 while I was still searching

but not finding

[Guest juiceman777]

I was just having a discussion on feminism with some secular people and wondered what you guys thought about it... it seems King Solomon suffered much under feminists during his day.. the Jezebels of the past are still here today.

I feel his pain on some of his words here.. but the women who caused the same pain where not Godly ones.. and of the devil.

Ecclesiastes 7: 25-29

25 So I turned my mind to understand,

to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things

and to understand the stupidity of wickedness

and the madness of folly.

26 I find more bitter than death

the woman who is a snare,

whose heart is a trap

and whose hands are chains.

The man who pleases God will escape her,

but the sinner she will ensnare.

27 "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered:

"Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-

28 while I was still searching

but not finding

[jackie d]

I was just having a discussion on feminism with some secular people and wondered what you guys thought about it... it seems King Solomon suffered much under feminists during his day.. the Jezebels of the past are still here today.

I feel his pain on some of his words here.. but the women who caused the same pain where not Godly ones.. and of the devil.

Ecclesiastes 7: 25-29

25 So I turned my mind to understand,

to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things

and to understand the stupidity of wickedness

and the madness of folly.

26 I find more bitter than death

the woman who is a snare,

whose heart is a trap

and whose hands are chains.

The man who pleases God will escape her,

but the sinner she will ensnare.

27 "Look," says the Teacher, "this is what I have discovered:

"Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things-

28 while I was still searching

but not finding

[Blien]

Sorry I forgot that part hahahaha.. well the discussion was is Feminism and Women's Rights the same thing? I dont belive it is.. lets have a hear of what you guys think!

[Irenicus]

I wish there was an emoticon for opening a can of worms....

I think there are positive aspects of feminism. It has done alot for women in the form of political and social freedoms that were denied to them for a very long time. However, there are certainly negative ones too. Much of it has to do with pride. By all means, men and women are equal, but one thing many hard-core feminists don't grasp is that they are equal but DIFFERENT.

[Guest juiceman777]

Blien ... hello ... hope the Lord is blessing you on this day He has made ... Yes it is true there are many women of the world in control and grabing for control and also in the church ... but ... there are also women of virtue and great godly character and wisdom in the world and the church ... let us not forget Ruth of the OT and Precilla (not spelled right sorry) of the NT ... I think our focus should be on supporting the godly women we know and praying for the ungodly ones ... vote for an ungodly one ... no ... pray for her ... YES ... thanks for listening to my imput ... Danny~ II Cor 5:14-21

[jackie d]

Sorry I forgot that part hahahaha.. well the discussion was is Feminism and Women's Rights the same thing? I dont belive it is.. lets have a hear of what you guys think!

yep a definite can of worms...I'll take the side door and exit this one. Blien, just so you know...it's gonna get ugly in there

[Blien]

I wish there was an emoticon for opening a can of worms....

I think there are positive aspects of feminism. It has done alot for women in the form of political and social freedoms that were denied to them for a very long time. However, there are certainly negative ones too. Much of it has to do with pride. By all means, men and women are equal, but one thing many hard-core feminists don't grasp is that they are equal but DIFFERENT.

Exactly, this is the point I was making with the people I was debating with. While the textbook definition of Feminism is okay, the real world practoceis is much different. In some cases it's gotten to the point of a movement and culture based on lies and deception.

The deception is in the belittling of anything that is feminine. It makes women feel as if they are the problem to society and television or any other kinds of media promote it with statements like.. "don't be such a girl!" or "don't cry like a girl". But where is womanhood with todays generation?

Women should act the way that is natural for them and not feel threatened that they don't have authority or influence over men since they are not masculine. Because in reality, they do. Decent men lose their minds when their wife abandons them. You heard the statement, "behind every successful man is a strong women"... its more like "behind every successful man is a loving woman". God created men and women for relationships with each other not dominion!

By the way, it was really hard putting this argument with them without whipping out bible verses but fun anyway hehehe...

[Blien]

Blien ... hello ... hope the Lord is blessing you on this day He has made ... Yes it is true there are many women of the world in control and grabing for control and also in the church ... but ... there are also women of virtue and great godly character and wisdom in the world and the church ... let us not forget Ruth of the OT and Precilla (not spelled right sorry) of the NT ... I think our focus should be on supporting the godly women we know and praying for the ungodly ones ... vote for an ungodly one ... no ... pray for her ... YES ... thanks for listening to my imput ... Danny~ II Cor 5:14-21

Yes exactly, I am with you!