O'Dannyboy Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 156 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,454 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1969 Share Posted February 22, 2008 If I am not mistaken, the Bible tells us that the generation that sees Israel restored to the holy land would witness the return of Christ. Of course there were several generations that saw Israel return to the holy land so there is still time for this to come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friarbob Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1947 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I was asked to leave another christian board because i am no longer premil dispesational in my eschatology but am leaning to wards the amillennial sysm of theology. my queustion is will I be asked to leave wothy because of this? Nah, just be civil when you run into the majority who believe differently and debate objectively. What changed your mind? what made me kind of take a anotther look is when back in the the 1970s Hal Lindsay predicted christ would return in 1988 and other people that made other predictions so I am currently looking at other systems of eschatology to see if they have any merit For now I am wavering between amillenialism and partial Preterism. It wasn't Hal Lindsay was it that predicted 88?...it was some cat who wrote a book entitled 88 reasons why Sept 88 is it. When it failed to happen, he wrote another book entitled 89 reasons why 1989, claiming a miscaculation of the Roman calendar or something. Hal Lindsey did predict Jesus' return in the Late Great Planet Earth book and he said he would return in 88. But like I said pretribers are not just premillennialist but they are also escapist and do not represent those of us that are Historical premillennialist as taught by the apostles. I may have to take a look at historic premillenialism. Could you sugest some books or websites for me to look at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I was asked to leave another christian board because i am no longer premil dispesational in my eschatology but am leaning to wards the amillennial sysm of theology. my queustion is will I be asked to leave wothy because of this? Nah, just be civil when you run into the majority who believe differently and debate objectively. What changed your mind? what made me kind of take a anotther look is when back in the the 1970s Hal Lindsay predicted christ would return in 1988 and other people that made other predictions so I am currently looking at other systems of eschatology to see if they have any merit For now I am wavering between amillenialism and partial Preterism. Also I found in my study of churc history and by reading old bible commentaries that dispensationalism was not ever taught until after the 1830s and that most commentaries before that time were either amill or postmil Well, whether or not Lindsay got it right is not really germain to a discussion about Amillenialism and Dispensationalism. The validity of either belief does not rest on those who adhere to either belief, but on the integrity of each and how well they line up with Scripture. It is important to keep personalities out of the discussion. People will always be biased for or against a particular person and hold them up as the reason to accept or reject a particular point of view and that is not really a productive dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I was asked to leave another christian board because i am no longer premil dispesational in my eschatology but am leaning to wards the amillennial sysm of theology. my queustion is will I be asked to leave wothy because of this? no but thanks for opening the opportunity for me to have a title for my beliefs: historical premillenialism - sweet !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,271 Content Per Day: 4.95 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted February 22, 2008 heck, i'd be curious just to find out what premil dispesational and amillennial system of theology mean! what language IS that? That's a good question. I went to this website to find the answer. Hope this helps, it did me. I've cut and pasted because the work is 31 pages long. Amillennialism (realized millennialism) - the view that when Christ returns eternity will begin without a pre-eternity 1000 year reign. The word 'millennium' is Latin meaning one thousand years. The word isn't actually in the Bible, but its Greek equivalent shows up frequently [Rev.20]. The 'a' placed in front means 'no.' Very few 'amillennialists' would tell you that the Bible does not teach a 1000 yr. period. Rather, they would say that the difference in their position is in the nature and the chronological position of this period. Instead they contend that the millennium is a present reality and is not the earthly utopia that many claim it to be. This view of prophecy holds that the scriptures should not be interpreted literally, but symbolically (they reject dispensationalism). According to this view, Satan is now bound and the church is experiencing the millennium. Augustinianism (Roman Catholicism) - this is a division within amillennialism. This view holds that the millennium is being fulfilled on earth presently and when Christ returns He will usher in the eternal state. The church is the kingdom on earth. Contemporary amillennialism - this too is a division of amillennialism. It holds that the millennium is being fulfilled presently in heaven and when Christ returns He will usher in the eternal state. Church members are citizens of the heavenly kingdom and it is Christ's current position that is said to be the fulfillment of the millennial prophecies. This view became popular after World War II and is the most common variety of Amillennialism found today. Premillenialism - the view holds that Christ will return and institute a kingdom (Kingdom of Heaven) that emulates His character. This Kingdom will last for 1000 yrs. and then eternity begins. Adherents to this view believe that theirs is the historical, traditional view held by the early church. Postmillennialism - the view that the Church will Christianize the world before Christ returns, then eternity begins. It may be said that the church is in the business of building the kingdom. When the kingdom has been established on earth, then Christ will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_yaash Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 940 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/10/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2008 sweet !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friarbob Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1947 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 I was asked to leave another christian board because i am no longer premil dispesational in my eschatology but am leaning to wards the amillennial sysm of theology. my queustion is will I be asked to leave wothy because of this? no but thanks for opening the opportunity for me to have a title for my beliefs: historical premillenialism - sweet !! I assume you are a post tribber,cool,Historical premillenialist does sound better huh,after all it is the teaching of Jesus,the bible and the Apostles. So Far the only weakness I see in historic premillenialism is this : if the rapture is post trib. Where will the population for the millennium come from? All the believers will be in glorified bodys and all the the unbelievers alive at that time will be destroyed therefore if post trib rapture is what bible teaches the amill is the view that fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopper Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 424 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 57 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) Edited April 17, 2008 by hopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie d Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,081 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/29/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/08/1967 Share Posted February 22, 2008 heck, i'd be curious just to find out what premil dispesational and amillennial system of theology mean! what language IS that? it's GREEK to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopper Posted February 22, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 424 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 57 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/09/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) Edited April 17, 2008 by hopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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