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In my opinion, only God can forgive sin. It would be blasphemous for anyone to think that they can forgive sin as that would be putting them on an equal setting to God.

It has however been brought to my attention that verses such as Matthew 16:18-20 and 18:18, John 20:23 and Matt 6:14-15 all refer to the fact that we can forgive sins.

I am confused.

If someone hurts me, I can forgive them but I don't see that as being the same as forgiving their sins. If someone hurts me and I forgive them, I am forgiving their actions (no problem in doing that) and not their sins!

What do you think?

I am really shocked that any Christian could think that they could forgive someone else's sins. Please help to clarify this for me.

Thanks in advance. :emot-hug:

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In my opinion, only God can forgive sin. It would be blasphemous for anyone to think that they can forgive sin as that would be putting them on an equal setting to God.

It has however been brought to my attention that verses such as Matthew 16:18-20 and 18:18, John 20:23 and Matt 6:14-15 all refer to the fact that we can forgive sins.

I am confused.

If someone hurts me, I can forgive them but I don't see that as being the same as forgiving their sins. If someone hurts me and I forgive them, I am forgiving their actions (no problem in doing that) and not their sins!

What do you think?

I am really shocked that any Christian could think that they could forgive someone else's sins. Please help to clarify this for me.

Thanks in advance. :emot-hug:

Those who use those Scriptures to declare that anyone can forgive sins is a false teacher. When Jesus was giving those instructions he was referring to authority of the apostles to settle internal disputes between the believers in the redeemed community. It is actually a very Jewish thing. Jesus commissioned his apostles with authority to do three things as the leaders of redeemed community. They had the authority to teach, legislate and judicate. The "binding and loosing" being mentioned in the above Scriptures refer to the authority to legislate rules for the redeemed community. The reference to "forgivness" refers to the authority to judiciate disputes. Their decisions were final and had that authority of all of heaven. Therefore, if they "forgave" someone (sided with the defense) in a judicial proceeding, then the decision was made heven's authority.

There is no sense in which we are allowed to forgive the sins of another to the degree, or in the manner that God does. Even when we forgive a person of a wrong committed against us, we are not forgiving them to the degree that God forgives them.


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The forgiveness that we give to each other is not what wipes away the sin. It is our showing of mercy and compassion towards those who sin against us and that we won't hold the sin nor a grudge against them.

So are you saying here that when we show mercy and compassion towards those that have sinned against us, that we are wiping away their sin then? :whistling::thumbsup::rolleyes:

I am totally confused by this. Sorry :th_praying:


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what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven

what is loosed on earth will be loosed in Heaven.


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what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven

what is loosed on earth will be loosed in Heaven.

I am really sorry, but I don't understand your reply. :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:

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If someone sins against me....I can forgive them and wipe the slate clean as far as my heart is concerned.

They are however, still accountable to God for that sin.


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If someone sins against me....I can forgive them and wipe the slate clean as far as my heart is concerned.

They are however, still accountable to God for that sin.

Yes I understand that.

So I think that you are saying that humans can not forgive the sins of others, only God can do that. Have I understood you correctly? :mellow:


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My question was not really relating to a situation where somebody has sinned against me.

If somebody steals from a shop and then confesses this to me and repents of it, can I forgive this sin? :mellow: I still believe that I can not forgive this sin as I am not God. My understanding is that they need to confess and repent before God. Am I right? :mellow:

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If someone sins against me....I can forgive them and wipe the slate clean as far as my heart is concerned.

They are however, still accountable to God for that sin.

Yes I understand that.

So I think that you are saying that humans can not forgive the sins of others, only God can do that. Have I understood you correctly? :mellow:

Yes.


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what is bound on earth is bound in Heaven

what is loosed on earth will be loosed in Heaven.

I am really sorry, but I don't understand your reply. :mellow: :mellow: :mellow:

sorry I didn't realize I hit the post button...those words were not supposed to be posted until I had looked further into your thread post. :42:

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