Muslim Threats Force Out Disabled Teacher With Dog

[MorningGlory]

I sincerely hope you are not implying I'm a terrorist with a link like that.

There are anywhere between 1.3-1.8 billion Muslims in the world today. If you think that despite their various cultures, countries, languages, political views etc they can be grouped together as one, there isn't a lot of common ground we are going to have on this issue. I mean, just think about how much of the Muslim violence in the world is directed at other Muslims ! Did they miss the "prime directive" memo? Somehow I don't think that world domination is the first thing on all of these people's minds

It's been said before, but to assume all Muslims are the same would be like assuming all Christians are the same.

Hamburgers.....you've got to forget about the 'we're all the same' stuff. NO, we are not! ALL MUSLIMS ARE THE SAME....if they're not, then they are not muslims. It's that simple. They strive for domination...oh, just read the Qu'ran.

[JustinM]

I don't want to co-exist with anyone in this country. I want everyone here to love this country as much as I do. No where in the world, will you be able to find a better, freer place to live than here in the U.S.

Co-existence is what Israel has been trying to do for 60 years (today). It doesn't work, you must be united as a nation if you want to survive. Muslims have a hard enough time co-existing with each other, what makes us think it would be any different when they say they want to co-exist with non-muslims?

I am not advocating the persecution of muslims here, but they need to be reminded of just where they live and that they have the same right to their religion and diets and cultural taboos as a disabled person does with having a dog to assist them.

#1 rule to being an American: You are American first and foremost. Culture, Religion, Diets are secondary in nature to what is required of US Citizens.

Do not come here from Somalia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and expect America to change into the former, that isn't what America stands for. It doesn't represent 1 person over another, it represents all citizens equally, if some muslims can't live with that, they need to go live somewhere that more appropriately represents their values.

You don't change America to suit your needs, you change your needs to suit America, because it doesn't belong to Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bhuddists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Marxists, Nazis, Fascists, Anarchists, etc.

[mikeinsarasota]

I don't want to co-exist with anyone in this country. I want everyone here to love this country as much as I do. No where in the world, will you be able to find a better, freer place to live than here in the U.S.

Co-existence is what Israel has been trying to do for 60 years (today). It doesn't work, you must be united as a nation if you want to survive. Muslims have a hard enough time co-existing with each other, what makes us think it would be any different when they say they want to co-exist with non-muslims?

I am not advocating the persecution of muslims here, but they need to be reminded of just where they live and that they have the same right to their religion and diets and cultural taboos as a disabled person does with having a dog to assist them.

#1 rule to being an American: You are American first and foremost. Culture, Religion, Diets are secondary in nature to what is required of US Citizens.

Do not come here from Somalia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and expect America to change into the former, that isn't what America stands for. It doesn't represent 1 person over another, it represents all citizens equally, if some muslims can't live with that, they need to go live somewhere that more appropriately represents their values.

You don't change America to suit your needs, you change your needs to suit America, because it doesn't belong to Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bhuddists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Marxists, Nazis, Fascists, Anarchists, etc.

This is filled with so much self-contradiction my head is spinning.

[Oh Hamburgers!]

Sorry I've been away for a few days. Just finished up my semester, only one more to go before graduation!

There are a lot of responses that are directed towards me, I'll try to cover as many as I can.

Brandon's Popo:

Pretty shallow line of thinking. That person was taught, by either his parents or imam that the dog was not allowed to be in the child's vicinity and that it is ok to threaten the owner of the dog by threatening to kill the dog. My parents or pastor never told me it was ok to kill something because I thought it was "unclean."

I feel like the issue is being oversimplified. According to this simplified view, This boy threatened that dog because he's Muslim. Regardless of the fact that all the other Muslim children did not threaten to kill to dog, and in fact pet the dog with paper covering their hands, the religion itself is being blamed for the incident. I think this is just as wrong as blaming Christianity for priest-child pedophilia. It isn't the religion that is the problem in this case, it is the individual who uses the religion in an improper manner.

Glory2000

Hamburgers.....you've got to forget about the 'we're all the same' stuff. NO, we are not! ALL MUSLIMS ARE THE SAME....if they're not, then they are not muslims. It's that simple. They strive for domination...oh, just read the Qu'ran.

Is that not, ultimately, what Christianity strives for? Perhaps not domination, but isn't the intent to spread Christianity across the entire world? Isn't that why missionary work and spreading the gospel is so important? In terms of what is ultimately desired, I would consider the goals of Christianity and Islam to be the same.

I have not read the Qu'ran cover to cover, but I have read bits of it and studied the religion in general. While there are horrible passages of violence and destruction in the Qu'ran, so too are there similar passages in the Bible. There are many more violent passages in the Bible in fact, however the % of a violent passage is lower compared to the Qu'ran. They are obviously different books, but at times I feel that the general message is the same, only swapped to pertain to a different group of people.

Cobalt:

Persecute them? Absolutely not. I am not in favor of persecuting any group of people. Were it up to me, I simply would not let muslims immigrate into this country. If you honestly want to know what America will be like in 2 or 3 decades, unless we do something now, look at the UK. Look at France. Those countries are your template for the US of the future, unless we do something. Do you wish to live under Shari law? If things continue on as they are now, you really should look into it, because unless we stop catering to Muslims, and their demands in this country, eventually, you will be following Shari law.

Isn't the denial of entry for the majority (99%) based on the poor actions of the few (1%) in of itself a prejudiced practice? Is that not a form of injustice? That is essentially the same thing we did in World War II through Japanese internment. We uprooted about 110,000 Japanese during that time, although a small minority of them were spies. It comes right back to the issue of security verses human rights. Do we abuse the majority to avoid the minority? It's a very hard question to answer in my opinion.

JustinM:

#1 rule to being an American: You are American first and foremost. Culture, Religion, Diets are secondary in nature to what is required of US Citizens.

What does being an American mean to you?

You don't change America to suit your needs, you change your needs to suit America, because it doesn't belong to Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Bhuddists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Communists, Stalinists, Marxists, Nazis, Fascists, Anarchists, etc.

What needs do you feel America has?

[MorningGlory]

Glory2000

Hamburgers.....you've got to forget about the 'we're all the same' stuff. NO, we are not! ALL MUSLIMS ARE THE SAME....if they're not, then they are not muslims. It's that simple. They strive for domination...oh, just read the Qu'ran.

Is that not, ultimately, what Christianity strives for? Perhaps not domination, but isn't the intent to spread Christianity across the entire world? Isn't that why missionary work and spreading the gospel is so important? In terms of what is ultimately desired, I would consider the goals of Christianity and Islam to be the same.

I have not read the Qu'ran cover to cover, but I have read bits of it and studied the religion in general. While there are horrible passages of violence and destruction in the Qu'ran, so too are there similar passages in the Bible. There are many more violent passages in the Bible in fact, however the % of a violent passage is lower compared to the Qu'ran. They are obviously different books, but at times I feel that the general message is the same, only swapped to pertain to a different group of people.

Yes, both islam and Christianity strive to spread their doctrines over the entire world. The similarity stops there. Spreading the Word of the Living God is an attempt to save people for the Kingdom. Spreading the cancer of islam is disseminating the word of satan.

I can see how you would see similarities between the Bible and the qu'ran. This is because islam borrowed heavily from the Old Testament when the qu'ran came into being sometime in the seventh century. Sure, the Bible does contain violent passages; only God can explain those. But there is a fundamental difference between Christianity and islam; Christians believe that the Son of God paid for our sins and assured our salvation; muslims believe that, by waging war and killing, they can please the moon god 'allah' and pay their way into paradise.

[Burning_Ember]

I can see how you would see similarities between the Bible and the qu'ran. This is because islam borrowed heavily from the Old Testament when the qu'ran came into being sometime in the seventh century. Sure, the Bible does contain violent passages; only God can explain those. But there is a fundamental difference between Christianity and islam; Christians believe that the Son of God paid for our sins and assured our salvation; muslims believe that, by waging war and killing, they can please the moon god 'allah' and pay their way into paradise.

Have you been reading too many Chick Tracts?

[Ovedya]

It's a basic tenet of Islam to convert believers by conquest.

[MorningGlory]

I can see how you would see similarities between the Bible and the qu'ran. This is because islam borrowed heavily from the Old Testament when the qu'ran came into being sometime in the seventh century. Sure, the Bible does contain violent passages; only God can explain those. But there is a fundamental difference between Christianity and islam; Christians believe that the Son of God paid for our sins and assured our salvation; muslims believe that, by waging war and killing, they can please the moon god 'allah' and pay their way into paradise.

Have you been reading too many Chick Tracts?

I've never read ANY of those, just so you know. My comments are based on my reading of the qu'ran. I haven't read all of it of course; there's only so much time. I have also researched the foundation upon which islam was built. Their god 'allah' is simply a reincarnation of the moon god Ba'al. Now, let me ask you this....how much of the qu'ran have YOU read? Not meaning to be sarcastic here; I sincerely want to know. I have laid out the fundamental differences between Christianity and islam based on the Bible and the qu'ran. Can you tell me that it's not true? And, if you can, please cite your source.

[faith pleases God]

i pretty much echo The Lorax's sentiments. This kid was obviously being a jerk and should be punished. His actions however shouldn't be representative of all Muslims any more than any other high-school incident like this, which is what the article seems to be trying to say.

I agree. Even like with the polygamist sect.

[Burning_Ember]

I can see how you would see similarities between the Bible and the qu'ran. This is because islam borrowed heavily from the Old Testament when the qu'ran came into being sometime in the seventh century. Sure, the Bible does contain violent passages; only God can explain those. But there is a fundamental difference between Christianity and islam; Christians believe that the Son of God paid for our sins and assured our salvation; muslims believe that, by waging war and killing, they can please the moon god 'allah' and pay their way into paradise.

Have you been reading too many Chick Tracts?

I've never read ANY of those, just so you know. My comments are based on my reading of the qu'ran. I haven't read all of it of course; there's only so much time. I have also researched the foundation upon which islam was built. Their god 'allah' is simply a reincarnation of the moon god Ba'al. Now, let me ask you this....how much of the qu'ran have YOU read? Not meaning to be sarcastic here; I sincerely want to know. I have laid out the fundamental differences between Christianity and islam based on the Bible and the qu'ran. Can you tell me that it's not true? And, if you can, please cite your source.

Jack Chick claims something similar about Ba'al in his Tracts. He also claims that Islam was created by the Vatican, to use their favour to help bring about the end of the world, or something. He also believes that claptrap about the Black Pope and numerous other conspiracy theories. He promotes known frauds like William Schnoebelen (who is a laughingstock of the Neo-Pagan community he tries so hard to evangelize to) and Alberto Rivera (who he wrote comics about), who claims that the Vatican is actually in league with the masons, communists, etc.

Coincidentally, a good deal of Jack Chicks writing is banned as hateful literature in Canada.

Jack Chick is quite the nut case when it comes to his credibilty regarding that sort of thing. Seeing as there are essays and Islamic apologetic documents with 170+ references (in one case) documenting the absurdidities of the original scholarly Ba'al stuff, I don't see any reason to believe it. If you're lining up and spouting something Chick says to be true, when he pushes forward all those other conspiracies, I don't see much reason to believe it.