MillennialSaint Posted June 20, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 25 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hey, this is just my cup o' tea. Antichrist leader of the European union? Mebbe.. mebbe not. One thing is for certain. He'll have his headquarters at the city of Jerusalem. Peace & Health, Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted June 20, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,041 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 426 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2008 The Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CU4EVER Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1960 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Thanks for the welcome. Good question. I am not aware of a scripture other than Daniel. However, if the tribulation period is a period of 7 years, then in Revelation 6:1-2, there is a picture of a rider on a white horse given a bow and a crown. Notice that there is no arrow which indicates that he conquers through means of peace, not war. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindSeeker Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,041 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 426 Days Won: 5 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2008 Thanks for the welcome. Good question. I am not aware of a scripture other than Daniel. However, if the tribulation period is a period of 7 years, then in Revelation 6:1-2, there is a picture of a rider on a white horse given a bow and a crown. Notice that there is no arrow which indicates that he conquers through means of peace, not war. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CU4EVER Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1960 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Thanks for the welcome. Good question. I am not aware of a scripture other than Daniel. However, if the tribulation period is a period of 7 years, then in Revelation 6:1-2, there is a picture of a rider on a white horse given a bow and a crown. Notice that there is no arrow which indicates that he conquers through means of peace, not war. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CU4EVER Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 16 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/19/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/31/1960 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Thanks for the welcome. Good question. I am not aware of a scripture other than Daniel. However, if the tribulation period is a period of 7 years, then in Revelation 6:1-2, there is a picture of a rider on a white horse given a bow and a crown. Notice that there is no arrow which indicates that he conquers through means of peace, not war. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.26 Content Count: 27,774 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,464 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted June 21, 2008 I've always like Halley's Bible Handbook's approach to prophecy. The reason being is because he recognized that they could be more than one interpretation -- or even a manifold interpretation within a prophecy. This is what he wrote about the first rider. "This may symbolize Christ setting out to conquer the world. Near the end of the book (19:11), another White Horse appears whose rider is plainly stated to be Christ. They may be the same: the One Starting, the Other Finishing, His Conquest. Or, this horseman may symbolize, not Christ, but the World-Power under which Christ was starting his work. The statement, at the end of the seven seals and the seven trumpets (11:15), "The Kingdom of the World is become the Kingdom of our Lord and His Christ," may imply that the "Kingdom of the World" was in the saddle at the start. Or, this horseman may symbolize the beginning of the reign of the antichrist at the time of the end. Or, possibly, both, the World-power under which Christ started His work, and the Final World-Power under which He will finish it; one, typical of the other. If this horseman represents the World-Power under which Christ was starting His work, it is indeed a very accurate picture of that power. The Roman empire, mightiest government that had thus far been in the world, , most of the known world under its control, was, at the time, just entering its Golden age. The historian Gibbon calls the reign of the five emperors, Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, and Marcus Aurelius A.D. 96 to A.D. 180, "the happiest and the most prosperous period in the entire history of the human race." -- Halley's Bible Handbook The greek philospher Plato taught his students something very important that I believe if you apply it the stench of spiritual pride will never develop. The true mark of learning was to recognize where one was ignorant! As believers, let's not try and pretend that we understand prophecy fully, but rather let's be students of the Word and become intimate with the Word ... and in doing so, we very well may see the words of this great book unsealed (Daniel 12:9) before our eyes! Your brother in Christ with much agape love, George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 258 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2008 Ok. Who then is the seventh beast today? And how did you figure it out? And where do you see the eighth as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 258 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2008 Please, let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt Posted June 21, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 258 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2008 Different Greek words translated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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