science and the bible....

[Godfearer]

in the earths crust 2 floods are recorded. (not sure on spelling but lucifearian and noadic floods)

in the bible two floods are also recorded.

1st flood:

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

2nd flood:

Gen 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.

there is many more ways the bible and science are parallel however i want to point out science will and the bible will clearly state that the first flood was before man. whats my point? if it was before man how do we have a written record of it, especially a record as old as the bible that has been passed down thru many generations? generations that previously didnt have the knowledge/capabilities to discover a flood before mans time of exsistance.

[Khristeeanos]

God created the earth covered with water, that is not a flood - it is part of how God created the earth.

I also might add that you quote the Bible to show a flood before man's arrival and forget that the sun and stars were not created until later.

You can't have billions/millions/thousands of years of earth history before the sun is even created.

[Godfearer]

i dont think you understand. it IS in the earths crust. recorded. and in the bible. written.

how is it being covered in water not a flood?

also dont try to disprove what im saying with sun and stars. you are over complicating it. that has nothing to do with what im saying. im talking about what the earths crust has in it, discovered by scientists. and what the bible has to say. i said nothing about sun and stars.

might i also add yes i do quote the bible to show a flood before mans arrival. why? because thats what it says.

[Guest]

if it was before man how do we have a written record of it, especially a record as old as the bible that has been passed down thru many generations?

Good Question!

How Did We Get The Written Word Of God's Creation - The Genesis Journal Of The Resurrected God

Maybe The Answer Is Who Is Jesus Of Nazareth?

If You Believe

The LORD Jesus The Redeemer Of Israel Spoke To His Friend Face To Face

Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 14:9

And Beloved Grandfather Moses Ever Faithfully Wrote Down

And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,

Deuteronomy 34:10

God's Eyewitness Record Of The World's Creation

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Colossians 1:16-17

And Man's Fall From Grace

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 3:6

The Devil His Due

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Genesis 3:14-15

Traits Of Men

This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

Genesis 5:1

If You Believe

You Know You Are Reading The Words Of The LORD In His Genesis Book

I Truly Believe The Only Thing Second Hand About The Creation Account Is The Scoffers Critique

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:3-7

[Godfearer]

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

the bible is called the Word of God.

[Godfearer]

no i do not agree. if you would research the science aspect of this thread you will see there are two floods. also does it say when God made the angels? cuz they already exsisted before man(in the beginning). this is evident when God puts an angel in front of the tree of life so man wont eat its fruit. there are time gaps in genisis that it dosent come out and plainly say and this happened and then this much time went by.

also another hole in your theory you said a water mass. the bible says Gen 1:2 And the earthH776 wasH1961 without form,H8414 and void;H922 and darknessH2822 was uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the deep.H8415 And the SpiritH7307 of GodH430 movedH7363 uponH5921 the faceH6440 of the waters.H4325

i left the strongs numbers so you can look this up yourself. the word earth(776) is defined as ארץ

'erets

eh'-rets

From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): - X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.

this word is used again in gen 1:10 And GodH430 calledH7121 the dryH3004 land Earth;H776 and the gathering togetherH4723 of the watersH4325 calledH7121 he Seas:H3220 and GodH430 sawH7200 thatH3588 it was good.H2896

also in the next verse when God said let the earth bring forth grass....

Edited August 6, 2008 by Godfearer