Does Jesus will come back 2 times?

[Hillson]

Last night I talked with a missionary in my church, he told me the bible says that Jesus will come 2 times before the judgement. It's something like "Caught up". It was told that Jesus will come again, that's the 1st time, by then, the Satan will control this world for 7 years, by this time, Holy Spirit will be out, so that for those who are non-christian they are hardly follow Jesus even they want to. After it, Jesus will come again for 1000 years to controld this world, the world will be both physical and spiritual control... After this all, it will come judgement...

Anyone here heard this saying? Can you give detail?

[AdstarB]

Hello Hillson

There are different thoughts on this form different Christians. You will read many different throughts.

I believe that Jesus will return and that the "Caught up" will happen very close to His return, maybe on the same day. Then Jesus will rule the world for 1000 years and then will be the final judgement.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[WISDOM]

Hillson:

I am going to move this thread to the "Eschatology Forum", which is where it should actually be.

[godrulz]

The pre-tribulation, pre-millennial view is what he told you (I feel it is probably the most biblical):

Jesus comes invisibly FOR the church at the rapture (I Thess. 4). (This could happen at any time)

There is a 7 year tribulation period where the Antichrist emerges and God pours out his wrath on the world. Many people will be saved during this period.

Jesus comes visibly WITH His church at the end of this time (Second Coming). He rules and reigns for a thousand years (millennium) before He creates a new heaven and earth to reign for eternity.

There are various events during these years in heaven and on earth.

The important thing is to know that He is coming back and to occupy until He does come back. The rest may be speculation.

[Brad]

The Parousia

The Parousia: Defining the Second Coming

by Don K. Preston

American presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter and George Bush have believed that we are living in the last days before Christ

[cymba22]

Brad is a preterist...his views dont match with scripture...so either his views are wrong...or the scripture is

[jmwhalen]

Re. Preson article

Typical preterist interpretation, characterized by spiritualizing passage after passage, and absolute failure to "rightly divided the word of truth"(2 Tim. 2:15). Rather than addressing every assumption he makes, I provide just one example. He states:

""Jesus said the Gospel would be preached into all the world before his coming. The New Testament writers say the Gospel was preached into all the world in the first century (Romans 16:25-26, Colossians 1:5-7, 23)"

"Was the Gospel preached into all the world in the first century? If we believe the Bible, it was. Read Romans 10:18ff; Colossians 1:6,23, Titus 2:12, etc."

Yes, the Lord Jesus Christ said the above, but He was referring to THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM(the good news that He would set up a literal, physical kingdom on earth(Daniel 2:44), with Himself as King with Israel as the favored nation), not the gospel of the grace of God referred to in Col. 1:6,23, Titus 2:12, Romans 16:25, ................ The kingdom program, and the good news of the kingdom, was temporarily set aside(to be reumed during Great Trib) at the stoning of Stephen in Acts 7, and God, in His grace, chose Paul as his apostle to usher in the "dispensation of the grace of God"(Eph. 3:2). Paul was not preaching the gospel of the kingdom. He should re-read Romans 16:25- "according to MY GOSPEL(emphasis mine), and the preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of THE MYSTERY, WHICH WAS KEPT SDECRET SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN"(emphasis mine).

In Christ,

John Whalen

[godrulz]

Paul believed in the imminent (soon) return of Christ (he expected it in his lifetime, as do most generations of believers). A literal reading of Scripture does not lead to a 1st century fulfillment of Revelation. The Second Coming is delayed partially because God is not willing that any should perish. The future is open and God can ultimately decide when to return. An allegorical method leads to wrong conclusions. All relevant passages must be interpreted to come up with an approximate timetable (not just proof texts...a few verses did have fulfillment in 70 A.D. etc.; another e.g. is Rev. 1-3 as first century).

[Guest shadow2b]

-Jesus comes invisibly FOR the church at the rapture (I Thess. 4). (This could happen at any time)

-COULD YOU PLEASE QUOTE EXACTLY

-WHICH SCRIPTURE PLAINLY STATES':

-JESUS-YESHUA--THE-MESSIAH WILL COME{INVISIBLY}FOR THE

-CHURCH  AT THE RAPTURE--THE CATCHING AWAY--THE GATHERING---

-CHAPTER------VSS.-------THRU.------

[Guest shadow2b]

-The rest may be speculation.

-BUOY-OH-BUOY-WHAT A POSITIVE STATEMENT:

-{MAY BE??-------SPECULATION??---}

-{MAY-BE??}LIKE--MEBBY??--COULD-BE??--MIGHT-BE??-

-{SPECULATION??}LIKE:--MEBBY??--COULD-BE??--MIGHT-BE??-

-ALBEIT SO VERY TRUE!!!-         -

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