Proof

[Poindexter]

Ah, yes! That ever elusive proof...The thing is that one needs to accept that there are absolutes. The world at large prefers to believe that everything is grey, no black and no white... For brevity, I cannot make a soliloquy in discussing that except to say that there is no such thing as darkness. Darkness is merely the absence of light. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is the absence of heat. If you go north far enough you will eventually find yourself going south. If you go west you will go west forever or if you go east you will go east forever. So at some point one has to realize an ultimate truth. Now, spirit is spirit and flesh is flesh. These are absolutes but the lesser is borne of the greater, for all things have a spiritual beginning. "And God said." God is spirit. He works with words. Those words, have to be by their very nature, absolutes. If one can accept the concept of God at all, which the quintessential nature of man stirs to do, then one has to bend to an absolute. But "proving" anything whatsoever is set in a body of principals which mut be agreed upon by all concerned, or "proof" remains in the eye of the beholder. Millions have accepted the bible as such proof, in and of itself based upon the aforementioned dynamics. Millions more have never heard about it or have rejected it out of hand. For those, the radar scope continues to sweep the horizon for what is otherwise unknowable. My radar has locked on and I am satisfied. Children of a lesser God are everywhere and live in contempt of the truth of God, wittingly or uinwittingly.

[Poindexter]

I too am a word man...base my thoughts and intents upon what is related to in "known scripture." (I place that in quotes, like see me standing with little fingers hooking the air.) For what is truly "known" by scripture? The interpretive skills of many on any given passage has ultimatley created the mind boggling divisions of today"s "church." So the very word we seek to espouse is also that which "created" the mess. I long for the ultimate expression of truth and the closest I find is the " Amplified" bible... for it gives every nuance of meaning of every known word and those words are quite elastic in elevating the finality of that meaning to unqualified levels....beyond that, it is a matter of distress to realize that Jonestown and many other settings of ultimate calamitous falsehood stemmed from someone's intrepretation of those same words....

What did the "early church" have? Just the apostles and the letters which were eventually written. (And the original Jewish scriptures which were obviously used to this intent... Rom 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.)

I think they depended heavily upon direct impress from the Holy Spirit...and due to the concerns of this day and the need to rightly divide I would expect nothing has changed in that regard... for anyone who is not led by the Spirit will NEVER realize the kernels of truth locked within that word...." Nor will they realize the prophetic depth which goes layer upon layer deeper and deeper into the heart of God. Most merely see the surface layer...the gramatical historical evidence of what was spoken and maybe at times the setting in which it was spoken, for apart from knowing to whom the words were spoken and under what circumstances they were spoken, there is no opinion or voice which may "enlarge upon that word" (in understanding) .....Everyone who makes their reports in the forum are not necessarily Spirit led and spirt fed....

Most quote the red words of Christ (for instance) as being from the very heart of God in a context which directly applies to us today without even making the assesment that Christ Himself was born under Jewish law and had it imposed upon Him, and due to the fact that He had not yet made an end of the law by His death, he made reference to the things of the law upon several occasions telling the lepers to show themselves to the priest etc.......and so along we come and begin to mingle our grace with that law and such things we observe in our fear based and sin concious interpretation...bringing even more bondage than before......."except for the cause of adultery."