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  1. Wow you are up late if you are from the East Cost, or Mid-West. I usually do not go to be until it is after Midnight, or Later. But I sleep in until it is after 8:00 AM, or Later.
  2. Now were have I heard that last line before ? ? ? As if I do not know, I am almost old enough to remember Will Rogers.
  3. That is NOT a LOT of pages. On the site called CHRISTIAN CHAT, that I have been a MEMBER for YEARS, they have a Site called Not By Works, and it has 5029 PAGES with 100,573 Posts, meaning they Post almost DOUBLE what your pages hold. AND IT IS STILL GOING STRONG! Like the expression goes, they get serious about Bible Discussion there, so 90 pages with only about half as many posts on each page, is a not much at all. Oh, just so you know, MOST of the Regulars on that Not By Works site, are OSAS BELIEVERS, so several people here have Been Serious Wrong about OSAS Believer do not take the Bible Seriously. And continue to spread their viscous rumors.
  4. 🙌 Can You see them now? How about NOW! (https://baptistandreflector.org/pastor-nine-steps-recovering-joy/man-silhouette-arms-raised/)
  5. EVERYONE: Please note that childoftheking, has a label just below his Avatar, than states Non-Trinitarian. I questioned him about it, and it seems he was not questioning the Deity of Jesus Christ, even though I doubt if he understands the full mean. HOWEVER, he is questioning the DEITY of the HOLY SPIRIT. He can believe that if he wants, but I must warn you all that denying the DEITY of the Holy Spirit, could be VERY DANGEROUS. For that reason, and the below Scripture, I would steer clear of any false theology, especially one that Denies the Deity of the Holy Spirit. Mark 3:28-29 (HCSB) 28 I assure you: People will be forgiven for all sins and whatever blasphemies they may blaspheme. 29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
  6. No, I told you the absolute TRUTH. Catholic Theology is FULL of ERRORS. And I am sure, you cannot explain Born Again to me? You have to be Born Again, to understand Spiritual Truths in the WORD of GOD. 1 Corinthians 2:6-16 (NIV) 6 We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"-- 10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment: 16 "For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?" But we have the mind of Christ.
  7. If you will let me, I will prove that the Holy Spirit is an OMNIPRESENT SPIRIT that is a independent personage AS WELL AS GOD HIMSELF. ONE GOD, and three Personages. Psalm 139:7–10 (NASB95) 7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? 8 If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. 9 If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea, 10 Even there Your hand will lead me, First of all let me answer your objection in Gen. 6:3. That is only in the Old Testament, while at the Day of Pentecost, HE took up residence in the Hearts of men and women, WHILE NEVER CEASING TO BE OMNIPRESENT. John 4:24 (HCSB) 24 God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 14:16-17 (NCV) 16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper to be with you forever— Does not say until we die. 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it does not see him or know him. But you know him, because he lives with you and he will be in you. Matthew 28:19 (NCV) 19 So go and make followers of all people in the world. Baptize them in the name [SINGULAR] of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. [That is one NAME, not three.] Proof of HIS DEITY is in these verses. When Ananias LIED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, he dropped dead: Acts 5:3-5 (NCV) 3 Peter said, “Ananias, why did you let Satan rule your thoughts to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep for yourself part of the money you received for the land? 4 Before you sold the land, it belonged to you. And even after you sold it, you could have used the money any way you wanted. Why did you think of doing this? You lied to God, not to us!“ 5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. Some young men came in, wrapped up his body, carried it out, and buried it. And everyone who heard about this was filled with fear. The ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN IS BLASPHEMING THE HOLY SPIRIT. Mark 3:29 (HCSB) 29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— Acts 28:25-26 (HCSB) 25 Disagreeing among themselves, they began to leave after Paul made one statement: “The Holy Spirit correctly spoke through the prophet Isaiah to your ancestors 26 when He said, Go to these people and say: You will listen and listen, yet never understand; and you will look and look, yet never perceive. THE WORDS OF THE FATHER and WORDS OF JESUS and WORDS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT are the WORDS OF GOD. 1 Corinthians 12:4–6 (NASB95) 4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6 There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. The same miracles are attributed to the SPIRIT, the LORD, and to GOD. And here is the death blow to your apparent FALSE BELIEF of not considering the Holy Spirit to also be GOD, Please come to HIM, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit: Hebrews 10:15–17 (NASB95) 15 And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them After those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws upon their heart, And on their mind I will write them,” He then says, 17 “And their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
  8. So is it the Holy Spirit that you do not THINK, HE is GOD ? ? ?
  9. 2 Timothy 1:9 (CSBBible) 9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began. Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB) 10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me. 11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me. Luke 2:11 (ESV) 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. Philippians 2:5-6 (NKJV) 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,Genesis 1:1 (NKJV) 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1 (NKJV) 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Colossians 1:16-19 (HCSB) 16 For everything was created by Him, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities— all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and by Him all things hold together. 18 He is also the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He might come to have first place in everything. 19 For God was pleased ⌊to have⌋ all His fullness dwell in Him, John 1:1 (HCSB) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 (HCSB) 14 The Word became flesh and took up residence among us. We observed His glory, the glory as the One and Only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
  10. See that expression, BREAK UP YOUR FALLOW GROUND. That is referring to the LORD's commandment that every 7 years, on the Year of Jubilee the Lands would not be Planted, it gave the fields time to replenish the Nitrogen during the years it was harvested. Similar to that, we would Plant alfalfa every four years to replenish the Nitrogen. Sometime the Government would even pay us not to plant certain fields when there was too much of a certain crop, a program called Idle Acres, would help to keep prices up. Hosea 10:12 (HCSB) 12 Sow righteousness for yourselves and reap faithful love; break up your unplowed ground. It is time to seek the LORD until He comes and sends righteousness on you like the rain. So my take on this verse, is just like the FALLOW GROUND needing Nitrogen replaced; His people NEED more time to FEED on His Word, seeking the LORD especially during the Year of Jubilee, and the results would be the revitalization of the Human Spirit, just like rainfall does the Ground.
  11. GEE, so quick. That is 3, Bye Bye. Just so you know, I was a Volunteer Prison Chaplain for 15 years, before I retired.
  12. Only people who of the Rocky soil, or the soil choked with Thorns. You see, that are not REAL CHRIST, because there SOIL WAS NOT GOOD SOIL. I used to be a Farm Boy, when I was growing up, and seed that feel on rocky soil or thorny soil, would DIE OUT before they can produce a Harvest or Fruit. REMEMBER Jesus said "By there Fruit you will Know them." They are just Church-goers, they are NOT real Christians. ONLY ONE TYPE OF SOIL WILL PRODUCE FRUIT. Matthew 13:8-9 (CSBBible) 8 Still other seed fell on good ground and produced fruit: some a hundred, some sixty, and some thirty times what was sown. 9 Let anyone who has ears listen."
  13. VOC said why he has no conscience (lie #1.), he spends his entire life on this one fav subject of his (lie #2.). So he has seen all scriptures aimed at stopping his heresy (lie #3.). Now we sin when we speed (Truth you do not believe. #4.). Because VOC says so (The Bible says so. #5.). Who also discusses no scriptures (lie #6.), but the ones he shows for his own agenda only (lie #7.). This is meant to be though, how else would it be emphasised and demonstrated and manifested. I have 6 differents Subject on this Site, probably over a 1000 subjects on Christian Chat site, about the same amount on Bible Discussion site. plus MORE on two other Sites, dating back to 1995. Anyhow, that is 7 lies you told about me in the opening paragraph. I am 70 years old. 1 Timothy 5:1 (HCSB) 1 Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, Sinning again are we? Now I absolutely believe in obeying this verse, by putting you on my IGNORE LIST. Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB) 9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning, 11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned. I consider you to be already your Second Warning, so next time, I will have to put you on my IGNORE LIST.
  14. So false teachers, exist in almost every congregation. I suggest you Get Your Information from the horses mouth, not YouTube.
  15. Now you have Stooped Lying about what I said. Which is Sinning. Exodus 20:16 (ESV) 16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. Exodus 23:1 (HCSB) 1 “You must not spread a false report. Do not join the wicked to be a malicious witness.
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