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Some facts and explanations concerning the newer bible versions. https://www.mikeleake.net/2015/07/on-those-missing-verses-in-your-esv-and-niv-bible.html https://becomingchristians.com/2018/06/18/12-unspoken-reasons-why-you-should-never-use-the-new-international-version-niv-bible/ Also can be listened to on youtube with the following title: https://www.mikeleake.net/2015/07/on-those-missing-verses-in-your-esv-and-niv-bible.html

Truth and falsity, in the Church and in your life. Hello FJK; I think you bring up a very important topic. I was born and raised in a somewhat christian environment,(too long a story to explain right here& now) but as a teenager, having just lost my father at the age of 13, i became more and more cynicle and rebellious and began to become curious about finding more about the world and so began to dip my feet into the world through music, dance, worldly movies, fashions philosophies that at the beginning, I did not take much thought of them as being very influential on me and also very wrong. But for me they were tempting and interesting to get to know, and they puled me more and more away from my christian background and lured me slowly from one sin into another sin. I was still praying to God and still confessing my sins, but not completely turning fully away from them either. These sins came about through me getting enticed, and lured into embracing a very worldly thought pattern and lifestyle that slowly made me drift further and further away from God and His moral ways of what is right and wrong. Engaging in sin made my drift more and more away from Gods Truth of what is right and what is wrong. I had to relearn right from wrong through Gods Word, when I finally made the decision to leave my worldly ways behind me and live for God and Him alone. At the time, in my teens and early twenties, I thought the church and people who make up a church and run it were morally very upstanding. But when I was in my early twenties and heard of Jimmy Swaggert demise and then started to hear more and more news concerning the corruption going on in the RCC I lost my respect for christian churches and began to delve myself more into researching and looking into reading books on comparative religions,( going to different churches ) of the World including delving into the esoteric to some extent. When I was around 19-20 years old, I got baptized as a born again christian in a Pentecostal church . but like I mentioned I did stray away through worldly lifestyle temptations. From these lures and temptations, I learned through the school of hard Knox, that the more you sin and do not repent from your sins or keep sinning in the same sin you repented for over and over, the more your moral conscious furthers itself away from God and His Truth . So what Truth from God, I once knew to be Gods moral Truth of what is right from wrong became more and more obscure and forgotten from my consciousness. Unrepentant sins lead away from God and His moral Truths and leads us into moral degeneracy,and finally a reprobate mind that can no longer decipher Gods right from wrong. The reprobate mind , leads further to the unpardonable sin, when you are left void of God consciousness and curse Him even unto death, God is truly the Good shepherd (John 10:10), because He tried many times to awaken me back to my senses and to truly repent ( making a choice to not go back to my wordly sins) He began to seriously try to wake me up 3 specific times in my thirties. Once at 32, showing me what a seared contentiousness is and that there is a true hell, When this occurred I once again called on Gods Name to help me find Him again and understand once again why Christ Jesus came and died for us. At that point in time, sin had brought me so far away from Gods moral Truths and understandings, that I had lost the understanding of why Christ came and died for my sins . At the time I found an old christian sermon on cassette that came from my mothers church, that explained the reason Christ Jesus came into this world to save us and buy us back from the power of sin that began in the garden of Eden. This was the beginning of me coming back to my faith, but it took two other occasions ( age 35 and 38) to shake me up enough to realize that I had to make a choice, a decision to follow God alone or loose myself to the world and the consequences of what living for the world brings. I was 37 1/2 years at that point when I began to make a very firm and conscious choice & decision to leave behind the world and seek to follow God. When I did that, my life began to really get transformed from within through the Holy Spirit of God working in me. I got this big thirst to read the bible and have a daily ongoing relationship with Him. The process of refining and becoming a new creation finally began, because I was now willing to let go, and place my tust in God to lead me. Yes the refinement is a continual process till we get home to Him. And I did have some set backs ( one important one. that began in 2009 and ended in 2011. At that time I thought I was pretty stable in my relationship with Him and secure in God Word and was leading a very clean daily life in Him, but I got tempted away by getting myself involved in a relationship that ended up leading me to stray. I did see all the red flags yet I though I was strong enough to keep my head on my shoulders, but the more I got involved again in a worldly situation, the further I began to drift. By then I knew I was straying and had to get out of the situation for my christian life and souls sake. I knew that I had become week again in being easily tempted and so I called a 24 bible bevelling prayer ministry ( a ministry that through Christ Jesus, healed me from an earlier aliment in 2005). so on the phone with the bible believing christian who took my call, I confessed to the person my situation, This christian person helped me to realize how far I was straying away from God and how important it was that I needed to make a decision to get out of the situation I was in. This christian stood firm on Gods Word and led me in prayer. We prayed together and I did find the inner strength to get out of the worldly situation I had slowly gotten myself into. This christian who had Gods Holy anointing on them, and for whom I am so very grateful to have spoken with, woke me back up to Gods Truth and helped make me realize how far I was straying furtherand from His Word and how important it was for me to repent and get back on track and re-commit myself to Christ Jesus and Him alone. From that time onwards I made made the firm decision to brake away from the worldly situation that I had slowly gotten myself into and that at the time thought I was on top of and could handle it. Even though I was freed in 2011 from that sinful entanglement, It took me another three years to regain back spiritually what I had lost through that mistake of allowing myself to be placed into a situation I should never have entered into agreement with in the first place, but also it showed me how important it is to always in every life situation align my life always with Gods Word and remain faithful to Him over compromising myself into a situations that can lead astray.. Gods Word and aligning our life to Him is our protection against the temptations and viles of this world. Trusting in God and His Word Alone over trusting man and his ways is so important and vital to our christian walk and well being and peace from within, that can only come from living close to Him Always. Since 2011, my eyes through this wrong turn experience led me to see even more how this world is so corrupt . From then I began researching on the internet more and more about government, business corruption and also the dangers of freemasonry. This unfolding of those corruptions helped me to see and detect more clearly churches that are corrupted and how also the recent pandemic was all planed many many years before it came to be in 2020. Also when I joined Worthy in 20014, I thought most Christians thought the same and where alike. I got to find out that not all on Worthy believe the same as some are new christian, some are from different denominations and even religions, I also got to read topics that lead me to further research for myself and learn from as well. But I joined Worthy because I believe the same as its statement of faith. However I have discovered also how very important it is to align all with Gods Words so we do not get deceived or fall into agreement or a trap that is set by the enemy. The enemy only comes to steal kill and destroy. That is also why I have placed in the -ask a question section- two specific questions in the past few months on the subject matter: 1-would you join and go into agreement with a church that practices Freemasonry? or 2-would you join a ministry if you knew that the minister was in an active state of adultery? Funny thing is that the first topic was clear enough showing the dangers and no one called me judgmental. But the second topic was met with a few calling me judgmental for wanting to understand further Mathew ch19 and the sin of adultery. Should a person stay in a church where you know the people running the church are in active adultery amongst other things that also do not align with Gods Word? This is where the slippery slope begins: when we do not align everything with Gods Word in our decisions, actions in our lives, we open ourselves up to being deceived. Yes Gods Holy Spirit does give us red flags of warning, I know, He gave me plenty in 2009 but I thought I was on top of things in my christian walk with Him to not fall into a trap from the enemy but was very much mistaken and had to learn a very important lesson the hard way. Now I look always to align myself or any situation i find myself in with God Word . If the person-s- /situation strays or does not align with Gods Word I know it is not the road for me to take. God does speak to us through His living Word. If we only listen and follow Him faithfully. God did warn us in His Word, of false teachers, preachers, that would deceive many and if possible even the very elect. Math ch24:24(24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.) That is why it is vital we are planted and cultivated in good soil: look to scripture of the parable of the Sower: Matthew 13:18-23 God Word says: make sure of your election with God ( 2Peter ch1:10-11) In our behaviours and actions by checking examining ourselves, our motives, our behaviours and look to align them with Gods Word. , because the tempter comes in very subtlely and invitingly so, to lure us away from our faithfulness to God Word and Him alone . Gods plan of salvation through Christ Jesus has made us ambassadors of His Word and plan of salvation through His only begotten Son Christ Jesus . 2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. As ambassadors we are to represent Him in our life and lifestyle, by living faithfully by His Word and correcting ourselves through His Word through a daily living a faithful ongoing relationship with Him. That is why it is important to READ Gods Word for ourselves and find a decent bible that has not been corrupted, that has not taken out the value of who Christ Jesus is and why He came and died for us. Christ did not come for us to keep living in sin. He came to FREE us from living in the bondage of sin and make us NEW creation, ambassadors for Christ. A church or person that says they are christian and lives contrary to Gods Word and endorses others to do so, is a false witness for Christ Jesus. A person that calls a chrisitan judgmental for looking to correct another from stumbling is not following Gods Word. James 5:20 19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins. We as Christians are called to be our brothers keeper, to love them enough to speak to them from Gods Word, to keep them from straying the wrong way away from God and so if we see sin, we are called by His Word to let our brother who is stumbling in error to look to His Word, examine himself/herself and repent and align back their lives faithfully to His Word. I am blessed that when I called a true bible christian ministry in 2011 seeking prayer and guidance that the one christian who took my call had the strength, courage of conviction to boldly share His Word so to point out through His Word that I was going in the wrong way in error and showed through Gods Word and prayer and repentance, the way back to reconciling back fully to God . Something we can all ask ourselves before God: Are we truly living as ambassadors for Christ in our daily lives? And if not then go to God and talk to Him ask Him for help, ask Him to show you how and what He desires us to be as faithful ambassadors for Him. Matthew 12:48-50 Christ Jesus said; But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Hi , I just found the time to read through this topic. I never liked smoking, tried it and did not like it. I actually cannot stand the smell of cigarettes, they give me headaches. But iI can understand the struggle that some folks have with it as I have battled myself with overcoming other things that i would call shortcomings that I fell enslaved to.. Never stop seeking God to heal and remove things that hinder your health and or your walk with God. God can do what man cannot.just we need to always come to Him and His Word with our concerns and keep having faith and trust that His Word are true and we can place our full Trust in them. I believe God can heal us. He is the same yesterday, today-tomorrow.Healing can come about instantly and also gradually. We just need to keep fellowship with Him daily, sharing our concerns with Him and asking Him to show us the way. His purpose if to get us saved, healed through Him and in Him and become through Holy Spirit working in us and refining us as we seek Him daily to become the children of God He always intended for us to be. Today some things that used to be a stronghold on me, I look at, as very foreign and can't even quite believe how much of a stronghold it was once one me. That's because of Gods working in my heart and soul by my seeking Him for help and healing.. Christ Jesus came to set us free from the house of bondage. Whatever enslaves us is a type of bondage that God can help free us from. God Bless in Christ Jesus always; 1to3

@Marathoner No this was not a test. It was a most sincere question concerning a real situation that has puzzled me for months. There are many false christian ministries today. And it is important to seek His Word to be able to discern what is false from what is truth. If actions from a ministry do not align with what Gods Word says, then we know it is not approved by God either. There are to many diluted christian ministries that will lead many astray. If we can no longer discern right from wrong by aligning ourselves with the standards of what Gods Word says, then we have fallen far away from Him and don't even realize it. Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! I know you don't understand me, I know your dislike me and really do not understand me since always, and have always tried to find fault in the sincerity of my actions here on worthy, even when I tried to be of help and encouragement to you when you were under a different name here on worthy and were in deep states of hurt . I have seen you many times miss judge my intentions, when I am only trying to understand Gods Word so to live clearly by them. If anyone is doing the judging it is you on me as you have always done. God knows my heart heart and he knows my intentions are to find and live faithfully by His Word and Truth.

Twisting Gods Word Romans 16:17-20 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For your obedience is known to all, so that I rejoice over you, but I want you to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Other verses concerning twisting Gods Word: https://www.openbible.info/topics/twisting_gods_word

You proved my point : 2 Peter 3:14-18 14) Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; (15) and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, (16) as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. (17) You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; (18) but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen. Verse 14 mentions peace, yet when Christ returns as the Captain of heaven's armies—as the chapter proclaims—there will be war. The iniquity of the world will be full, and He will fight against those opposed to Him. Peter counsels us to ensure that when He returns, He finds us at peace with Him rather than in opposition. That may sound obvious, but consider how it might apply. If we are opposed to the requirements of God's law, then we are not at peace with the Lawgiver. If we are angry with God for some reason, we are not at peace. If we disagree with God's reaction or non-reaction or overall management of His creation, then we are not at peace with Him. There can be as many applications as there are individuals, because wherever carnality exists, a measure of enmity remains (Romans 8:7). Peace with God depends on our trusting Him absolutely with our lives. Only then will we not take His words and actions as being hostile toward us, and we will not be hostile toward Him because we trust Him to have our best interests in mind. If our faith—trust—slips, then peace with God begins to fracture. Peter observes that some of the things Paul writes are hard to understand and that people tend to use Paul's writings in particular in a destructive way. Even today, Paul is falsely known as a champion of a no-works theology, and his writings are cited to say that God's law has been abolished. Twisting Paul's writings in that way is what will cause destruction, because when the Judge returns, He will use His law as the basis of judgment. Peter leaves us with these final thoughts: You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (II Peter 3:17-18) Matthew 5:17- Christ Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. The apostle warns against being deceived by all the things he talks about in this chapter, and his warning probably includes the previous chapter. As the saying goes, “Forewarned is forearmed.” Paul prophesies, though, that some are going to depart from the faith (I Timothy 4:1). We have seen that happen. To keep it from happening to us, Peter counsels us to focus on growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. He refers to the completion of the repentance or conversion process and our pursuit of salvation to its conclusion. Jesus is not delaying His coming. He is giving us time to put our houses in order so that we can respond correctly to the work He has begun in us. As Peter says, “To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.”

From the answers given, I can SEE those who are looking for the slippery slide away from Gods Word to suit their carnal wants and look for ways to discard some bible scripture that would otherwise condemn their actions. I am also relieved to see and appreciated those who wrote understanding the danger of disobeying Christ Jesus and Gods Word willingly. Especially when placing oneself in the context of being a Bible believing Christian ministry, one has to be a shining example of being obedient to His Word Today there are so many claiming they are a bible believing christian ministry, while at the same time they continue to live a very worldly lifestyle. We as Christians are called to be separate from the world.; 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.And will be a Father unto you, ... Romans 12:2: 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. But if you look closely, you see them some claiming to be bible believing ministries preach only certain passages while avoiding others that would show they are in error. I see many false christian ministries on line , who are leading many astray with their teachings. Gods Word has not changed. It remains until all is accomplished. If you say you love me Christ Jesus said: be obedient to my word. To be obedient to His Word seems to be something many overlook, yet Christ Jesus did not change, is the same yesterday today, tomorrow. All of Holy Scripture is to teach , convict reproof.... 2Tim. 3 Verses 16 to 17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. John 14:15- Christ Jesus said: “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever.

Are GODS ELECT truly those REJECTING Him today? Those rejecting Christ Jesus today are those who don't truly love Him. If they truly loved Him, they would seek Him and His Word daily and keep His commandments and be obedient to His Word. John 14:15- Christ Jesus said: “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever ------------------------------------------------------ The New covenant is that Christ Jesus came to fulfill the LAW. Matthew 5:17- Christ Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. The two commandments that Christ Jesus gave, Christ Jesus also stated encompass the 10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Matthew 5:19 Christ Jesus said: …18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. John 14:15- Christ Jesus said: “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever.

The New covenant is that Christ Jesus came to fulfill the LAW. Matthew 5:17- Christ Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. The two commandments that Christ Jesus gave, Christ Jesus also stated encompass the 10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40 36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

I guess it would also work if you can also grate the soap and place in spray bottle with water and spray on clothes boots skin? 1 part of grated Fels Naptha to 2 parts water warmed on the stove until all combined. Cool and place in spray bottle.

That is not what Christ Jesus says: Matthew 5:17- Christ Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

2 Peter 3:14-18 14) Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; (15) and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, (16) as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. (17) You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; (18) but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen. Verse 14 mentions peace, yet when Christ returns as the Captain of heaven's armies—as the chapter proclaims—there will be war. The iniquity of the world will be full, and He will fight against those opposed to Him. Peter counsels us to ensure that when He returns, He finds us at peace with Him rather than in opposition. That may sound obvious, but consider how it might apply. If we are opposed to the requirements of God's law, then we are not at peace with the Lawgiver. If we are angry with God for some reason, we are not at peace. If we disagree with God's reaction or non-reaction or overall management of His creation, then we are not at peace with Him. There can be as many applications as there are individuals, because wherever carnality exists, a measure of enmity remains (Romans 8:7). Peace with God depends on our trusting Him absolutely with our lives. Only then will we not take His words and actions as being hostile toward us, and we will not be hostile toward Him because we trust Him to have our best interests in mind. If our faith—trust—slips, then peace with God begins to fracture. Peter observes that some of the things Paul writes are hard to understand and that people tend to use Paul's writings in particular in a destructive way. Even today, Paul is falsely known as a champion of a no-works theology, and his writings are cited to say that God's law has been abolished. Twisting Paul's writings in that way is what will cause destruction, because when the Judge returns, He will use His law as the basis of judgment. Peter leaves us with these final thoughts: You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (II Peter 3:17-18) Matthew 5:17- Christ Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. The apostle warns against being deceived by all the things he talks about in this chapter, and his warning probably includes the previous chapter. As the saying goes, “Forewarned is forearmed.” Paul prophesies, though, that some are going to depart from the faith (I Timothy 4:1). We have seen that happen. To keep it from happening to us, Peter counsels us to focus on growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. He refers to the completion of the repentance or conversion process and our pursuit of salvation to its conclusion. Jesus is not delaying His coming. He is giving us time to put our houses in order so that we can respond correctly to the work He has begun in us. As Peter says, “To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.”

@Slibhin I don"t think you can thumb up your own post.

Revelation 7:1-8 – God’s People Are Marked with a Seal Revelation says that the redeemed bear a seal on their foreheads. The seal consists of the names of God and the Lamb and shows that the redeemed belong to God (Revelation 14:1). The seal is presumably not a visible one but a way of indicating that people find their identity in relationship to God and Christ. This seal or relationship does not mean that people are exempt from all earthly suffering, but it does show that God has claimed them and gives them the promise of life everlasting. John hears that those who are sealed number 144,000 from the 12 tribes of IsraelThe patriarch Jacob fathered twelve sons who became the ancestors the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Divisive political conditions led to a separation of these united tribes into the Northern and Southern Kingdoms after the death of Solomon in 931 B.C.E More (7:4), but when he turns to look at them he discovers that they are actually a countless multitude from every tribe and nation (7:9). The 144,000 are not a special ethnic group. The imagery describes the whole people of God. The seal that they bear is the opposite of the mark of the beast, which is introduced in Revelation 13:11-18.

No the Mark of the beast will be something that is taken internally , hence why it is writtne the have drunk of... that implies injestion =internally taken within

You need to re-read, those who will not have accepted the Mark , they are the remnant of God, they remain pure from the Mark of the Beast. Thay remain sealed By Gods Mark for their faithfulness in Him and His Word. They are the 144.oo0 however you choose to understand who they are they are from the descendants of the tribes faithful to God that God mentioned in scripture. They are the ones who will go under sever persecution from the luciferian governments. they will not have partaken in the Mark of the Beast, hence why they are saved.

Some people even here on Worthy Forums can no longer SEE how Perverse it is to accept onto their own bodies ( that belong to God) a serum that contain aborted fetal cell tissue, ( regardless of what year it was taken)( the babies hat where extracated from the mothers womb where alive when they removed the, the parts,the cells and then they killed the alive baby) plus animal tissue amongst other gene editing crisper tech that is involved and that is very unnatural and goes contrary to God perfect creation. Can you not SEE the CORRUPTION??? this is how far reprobate the minds of mankind have become. They can nolonger SEE the Corruption of their doings,.

Hello @tatwo , I just go tback home still need to unpack suff brin it into the home,unload stuff but took a look at your answer from the first reply, will read more later... but just to say concerning the first post in reply back to me is this: Yes from reading Holy Scripture, God is Merciful but there is a point of no return. Not Gods fault. The soul that keeps on sinning become reprobate= no longer God given morally able to decipher right from wrong what sin does to the human who continues deliberately in sin? without repenting? The more you sin and know you are sinning and choose froma stand point of pride to not even try to repnent to GOd of moral shortcommings, the more deluded you get, and the more deluded you get , you slowly drift further and further from Gods wisdom, from Gods Morality, Mercy &Grace . GOD is always AVAILABLE TO RECEIVE US WHEN WE CALL ON HIM FOM THE DEEPH OF OUR SOUL & FALLEN STATE, BUT THE THING IS, WHEN SIN being convicted and not repented from within, that is, THE FURTHER SIN COMES AROUND AND ALSO DOES NOT GET REPENTED THEN GOD ALSO FURTHERS Himself AND DRIFTS APART FROM US. Not because He is Mean or unjuist. But on the Contrary Because God IS HOLY and CANNOT DWELL IN unholiness. Look agan 1 to John ch1 That is why when God sent His only begotten son To SHED HIS HOLY and PURE BLOOD over the sins of mankind that comes to God in repentance TO COVER US FROM SIN and Make US ACCEPTABLE in The sight of GOd ALMIGHTY NOT BECAUSE GOD DON'T LOVE YOU , that people will go to hell, BUT BECAUSE God CANNOT LIVE IN A STATE OF DARKNESS. God is HOLY and darkness cannot live in His Holy light. Look at a dark room and open a match of light, the light swallows up the darkness. Because Light overpowers darkness all the time. God is in ITS Fullness of BEING the TRUE LIGHT satan the false light bearer cannot compare EVER to GOD AS GOD IS CREATOR OF ALL even fallen lucifer He alone is PURE, but in His Mercy and GRACE sent His only begotten Son - Christ Jesus to bring us back to Him through Christs BLOOD covering that was shed on the cross at Calvary to make us acceptable in His HOLY sight. Without the HOLY Blood covering of Christ Jesus, our bridge to God, we cannot ever come back to God.

Hello @tatwo, you wrote a lot, I will try and answer some but I must go about doing thing today in my personal life, so may not be able to respond back as quickly. But in regards to your first paragraph. We are ALL sinners until we come into repentance through Christ Jesus and even then we continue to grow in Him becoming more and more the child of God through the Holy Spirit working in our hearts, transforming us,teaching us, chastizing us, cleaning us as we keep walking and being in relationship with Him. Those truly in Christ Jesus: look to parable of the Sower. Those who have yet to find salvation in Christ Jesus still have time to find him while they are alive. -------------------------- The difference here is that those who have not found Salvation in Christ and take the Mark of the Beast, they will have sealed their fate as they will be completely given over transformed over to the Beast system where salvation will no longer be available to them while alive. If you look at the book of rev I4 it mention this:Revelarion ch14 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. it also mention in rev: they will rather than repent, curse God. something drastically changes in the human being that was once created in the likeliness of God when they will take the Mark of the Beast. there is no going back, Just like the garden of Eden, there was no going back once they disobeyed God,Everything change in them and around them. That iswhy all born have an active sin nature in them . that is why Christ came back to redeem us of the power of sin so it no longer has a hold on us through His Holy blood Sacrifice done on the cross now working those us who have come into repentance with Him and made the free will decision to follow Him and His Ways, His ways are not the ways ofthe world. We as christian are called to be separate from this world, not partake with the sins of this world. to become Holy as He is Holy The bible speaks of the SEAL of GOD that true followers of Christ Jesus have The Mark of the Beast is the counterfeit Mark that whoever enters into agreement with by taking the Mark inside their bodies has placed their allegiance with the Luciferian beast system Rather than thinking of repenting, they will curse God instead Revelation 16:11 The First Six Bowls of Wrath …10And the fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness, and men began to gnaw their tongues in anguish 11and curse the God of heaven for their pains and sores; yet they did not repent of their deeds. 12And the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings of the East.… God will give His wisdom to Those That follow Him. Now the other subject matter that is controversial argument : will Christians be taken in rapture before the beast system if fully implemented so they will not face the horrors of that time or will they face this time of tribulation as well. Some think that there will be no rapture and the Christians will have to endure and be martyred in those days for not accepting the mark and therefore not being able live well at all as they won't be able to able buy or sell,keep their property etc... So IDK IF there is a pre rapture or NOT before the Mark is fully implemented. I sure would like it to be, but from reading a lot from those pointing is will not happen. I am left unsure either way. That is to be seen. But that is ok,either way as Christians we have to make sure we are truly living in Christ as Paul says make you salvation a sure thing.: live right according to His WORD, practice a daily living relationship with God, live Holy as He is Holy, Christ Jesus says this, he also Says Hi you truly love me obey my commandments. that is living in faith/faithful true love for Christ Jesus. Gods promise to us is if we do so HIS will He will direct our path. Prov. 3 Verses 5 to 6 [5] Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.

Thank you Farouk giving Romans ch7 as reference. The Word of God works together, the gospels and Pauline Epistles like Romans work together, they do not contradict the meaning of intent, the four gospel Math, Mark Luke John explain into clarity the meaning and intend of Gods Word Yes those redeemed by The Mercy and Grace of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus have receive Mercy & Grace when we come into repentance to Him as Holy sacrifices for His Mercy and Grace and give our lives over to Him but that does not give us FREE licence to go on sinning, as Christ Jesus told the woman at the well, you are free but go and sin no more lest a worse sin befall you. Look to Romans ch12:1 12. [1] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. If we understand Grace as giving us licence to sin and keep living in sin than we are deceiving out own selves. Look to 1John ch1

Thank you John for giving the story of the woman caught in the act of adultery and the Jews who caught her where trying to stone her until Christ Jesus came and said :who is without sin cast the first stone, and because everyone has sin in them, each one dropped the stone and walked away. then Christ Jesus said to the woman caught in adultery that NOW she was free and to keep being free from being in the state of SIN to SIN NO MORE lest a worse happens. So Yes God says He forgives Adultery, WITH repentance=Turning AWAY FROM SIN Math ch5 and ch19 do not contradict John ch8 In the gospel of Math ch5, 19 explaining the sanctity of marriage, to be married to ONE wife, ONE husband and if you choose to leave the marriage other than the grounds of adultery, that you should NOT re-marry but remain single at least until your first spouse passes away. Because there is Sanctity in Marriage,vows where taken that are binding and to be respected Paul continues to explain the sanctity of marriage and of the vows taken that bind the couple together as one, that if you decide to overlook this and re-mary anyway, you are placing your new husband or wife in a state of ACTIVE adultery.=Actively sinning So we need to understand the context of John 1 and Math5 and 19. If you look closely they do not contradict one another they work together. Gods Word is flowing with purpose for those walking in Christ Jesus :to walk Holy as He is Holy. Thank you for taking the time to present a bible verse of Johnch8 witch does not give the woman caught in ACTIVE adultery licence to sin again but rather to put away sin by sinning no more lest something worse happens.

John 14:18-31 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. “A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you.