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Just saw this post, Sorry JTC to hear the news, praying you keep on with the faith of Christ as your Strength and hope. Praying in Christ Jesus, that you are not feeling so alone today. In Christ Jesus Always 1to3

I am NOT believing in any RCC Mystic Monks, I am believing from the WORD of GOD. Christ Jesus's BLOOD had to be HOLY divine if it was going to redeem ALL of mankind from Sin. Revelation 12:11 11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. Romans 5:9 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 3:24-25 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— You are telling me to be careful? You are trying to slander me. Maybe you also should be careful as what you say does not match which this sites statement of faith or what Gods Word says in the bible about who Christ Jesus IS and the divine Holy Power of His redemptive Blood= look also to Isaiah53. Jesus Warns of Offenses like misleading others away from their faith in believing God the Father, Son , Holy Spirit. Matthew 18 v6 6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! From what I last saw, this thread section is for people who believe in Worthy's statement of faith. Since you do not believe in this sites Worthy statement of faith, really, I have nothing further to discuss with you as i was looking for answers from those whose belief is conform with worthy's statement of faith. Statement of Faith We believe in God, the almighty creator of heaven and earth. We believe in the triunity of God. We believe that God is eternally One, and also eternally the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — the three being distinct, but not separate. Each Person of the Godhead coexists from everlasting to everlasting. We believe in the Messiah, Jesus, God’s only begotten son, God come in the flesh. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. He was crucified, died and buried. On the third day, He rose again. Soon afterward He ascended into heaven. Now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and He will return to judge both the living and the dead and reign for evermore. We believe all mankind are sinful and are therefore subject to God’s wrath and condemnation. We believe that everyone is in need of God’s salvation. Mankind is absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God’s righteousness, holiness and glory. Therefore, God, in sending His Only Begotten Son, has accomplished redemption for us through the shedding of Jesus’ blood. Because of His Son’s death, God has forgiven us of our sins, reconciled us to Himself, and justified us by making Him our righteousness. We believe that salvation is a gift received by faith alone, in Messiah alone, and is expressed in the individual’s recognition and repentance of sin, and the acceptance of the risen Messiah as Saviour, Lord and God. We believe in the supreme Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. And that there is no other name under Heaven by which we can approach the holy throne of God. Jesus Christ is the one and only mediator between God and man. We believe that immediately upon death, the soul of the believer is absent from the body, and present with the Lord. We believe in the ongoing work of sanctification by the Holy Spirit after redemption for the purpose of producing life changing fruit — love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and self-control. We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God. ***If Christ Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God, His Blood HAD to be Holy DIVINE. Yes the divinity of Christ and His Holy divine Blood ARE the teachings of Jesus and His disciples, And YES they are found in their writings found in the Bible. “We saw it with our own eyes: Jesus resplendent with light from God the Father….We couldn’t be more sure of what we saw and heard—God’s glory, God’s voice.” (2 Peter 1: 16, 17 there, but the mass of the Church—passed over at once to the fixed belief that He was God.” So, did the apostles who wrote the New Testament accounts really believe that Jesus is God, or did they regard him as a created being? If they regarded Jesus as God, did they consider him as the Creator of the universe, or something less? Those who deny Jesus’ deity say that the apostles taught that Jesus is God’s supreme creation, and that the Father alone is the eternal God. So, to clarify their beliefs about Jesus, we will examine their words, asking three questions: Did the apostles and early Christians worship and pray to Jesus as Lord? Did the apostles teach that Jesus is the Creator written of in Genesis? Did the apostles worship Jesus as Preeminent in the universe? Lord After Jesus ascended, the apostles stunned both Jew and Roman by proclaiming Jesus as “Lord”. And the apostles did the unthinkable and worshiped Jesus, even praying to him as if he was God. Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” as he was being stoned to death. (Acts 7:59). Creator In Genesis the God of the Bible is revealed as Creator of everything from the tiny atom to the magnitude of space with its billions of galaxies. Thus, it would have been heresy for a Jew to think an angel or any other created being was the Creator. Isaiah confirms that God (Yahweh) is the Creator: “This is what the Lord, the Creator and Holy One of Israel says…I am the one who made the earth and created people to live on it. With my hands I stretched out the heavens. All the millions of stars are at my command….I, the LORD Almighty, have spoken!” (Isaiah 45:11a, 12, 13b) So, did the apostles view Jesus as part of creation, or as the Creator?” John’s Testimony When Jesus’ disciples gazed at the stars on dark evenings, they most likely didn’t even dream that the Creator of those stars might be in their very presence. Yet after his resurrection, they saw Jesus with new eyes. And before he left earth, Jesus began to unfold mysteries to them about his identity. Recalling his Lord’s words, John begins his gospel by revealing who Jesus is: “In the beginning the Word (logos) already existed. He was with God, and he was God….He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn’t make. Life itself was in him and this life gives light to everyone.” John 1:1, 3-4 Therefore, John, under the direction of the Holy Spirit, tells us: the “Word” existed before creation the “Word” is the Creator who created everything the “Word” is God Thus far, John has told us that the Word is eternal, Created everything, and is God. But he doesn’t tell us whether the Word is a force or a person until verse 14. “So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us.” He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father” (John 1:14). John clearly refers here to Jesus. Furthermore, in his epistle he confirms it: “The one who existed from the beginning I AM “nothing exists that he didn’t make.” If nothing existed apart from him, it follows that Jesus couldn’t have been a created being. And according to John, the Word (Jesus) is God the one we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is Jesus Christ, the Word of life” (1 John 1:1). John tells us that “nothing exists that he didn’t make.” If nothing existed apart from him, it follows that Jesus couldn’t have been a created being. And according to John, the Word (Jesus) is God Paul’s Testimony Unlike John, the apostle Paul, (formerly Saul) was a bitter opponent and persecutor of Christians, until Jesus revealed himself to him in a vision. Years later, Paul reveals to the Colossians what he had learned of Jesus’ identity: Paul reveals several important things in this passage: Jesus is the exact image of God Jesus is the “first-born” of creation Jesus created everything Jesus is the reason for creation Jesus existed before everything Jesus holds creation together What does “exact image of God” mean? “To call Christ the image of God is to say that in Him the being and nature of God have been perfectly manifested–that in Him the invisible has become visible.” Thus, God being visible in Christ coincides with Jesus’ own words to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9). In verse 15, the Greek word for “first-born” (prototokos) means ‘”supreme’ rather than in the temporal sense of ‘born after. Paul is referring to “Christ’s pre-existence and cosmic activity in creation, and “denotes not only Jesus’ priority but also his primacy.” What makes this clear is verse 16 which tells us that everything in the universe was created both through Jesus Christ, and also for him. In verse 17 we see the eternal Christ sustaining creation. According to Paul, every atom, each DNA strand, and all the billions of galaxies are held together by the power of Jesus Christ. Thus, Jesus is the one from whom everything originated, the one for whom it was created, and the one that holds it all together. Hebrews’ Testimony The New Testament book of Hebrews also reveals Jesus as the Creator of everything. Its opening passage reflects Paul’s words to the Colossians: “Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets. But now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he made the universe and everything in it. The Son reflects God’s own glory, and everything about him represents God exactly. He sustains the universe by the mighty power of his command” (Heb. 1:1-3a) Just as John and Paul reveal, the author of Hebrews tells us that prior to Jesus becoming a man, God created the universe through him. And Hebrews also reveals Jesus Christ as the one who sustains it. Verse 3 speaks of Jesus as the “perfect imprint and very image of God’s nature.” The Greek word here means that “the Son is the effulgence, the out-raying of the glory of God’s glory.”This statement, that Jesus is the “perfect imprint” of the infinite God, confirms that the apostles believed Jesus is fully God The author of Hebrews then goes on to tell us that Jesus is not only superior to the prophets, but he also is far above the angels. “This shows that God’s Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is far greater than their names” (Heb. 1:4). The author of Hebrews then discloses the deity of Jesus: “But as to the Son, He [the Father] says to Him, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever….” (Heb. 1:8 Ampl.) Later in Hebrews, we learn that Jesus Christ “is the same yesterday, today, and forever,” a clear statement of his eternal Deity (Heb. 13:8). A created being is not the same today as yesterday because there would have been a time when he didn’t exist. It would be difficult to construe these passages in Hebrews to mean anything other than the fact that Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament, who along with His Father and the Holy Spirit, created the universe Paul attributes to Jesus the same words of honor Isaiah attributes to Yahweh: “Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God. He made himself nothing; he took the humble position of a slave and appeared in human form. And in human form he obediently humbled himself even further by dying a criminal’s death on a cross. Because of this, God raised him up to the heights of heaven and gave him a name that is above every other name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:6-11 NLT) This passage reveals that before Jesus became a man, he had the full rights of the Godhead. Paul also tells us, “that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.” Over seven hundred years before Christ, God tells us through Isaiah that He alone is God, Lord, and Savior: “Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior” (Isaiah 43:10,11). We are also told in the Old Testament that Yahweh alone created the universe. That “every knee shall bow to Him.” That He is “the Lord, the King of Israel.” “The Redeemer.” “The First and the Last.” Daniel calls Him “Ancient of Days.” Zechariah speaks of God as “the King, the Lord of Hosts who will judge the earth.” But in the New Testament we hear John call Jesus “Savior,” “The Alpha and Omega,” “The First and the Last,” “The King of Kings” and Lord of Lords.” Paul tells us “every knee will bow to Jesus.” It is Jesus alone who the apostles tell us will judge our eternal destiny. Jesus is the preeminent Lord of the universe. Conclusion If Jesus is Yahweh, then the Christian message is that God Himself came to earth, allowed men to spit on Him, mock him, and nail Him to a cross as a supreme sacrifice for our sin. God’s perfect justice could only be satisfied by God Himself as the payment for our sin and unrighteousness. No angel or created proxy would suffice. Such an act of condescension demonstrates the immensity of the Father’s love as well as the high value He places upon each of us (See “Why Jesus?“) . And this is exactly what the apostles taught and so fervently preached. In his parting words to the Ephesian elders, Paul encouraged them to “shepherd the church of God, which he purchased with His own blood (Acts 20:28 ). Paul is echoing Zechariah’s prophecy where God (Yahweh) says, “In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem….and they will look on Me whom they have pierced and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son (Zech 12:8a, 10b). As you do not believe in this sites statement of faith and this section is for those who believe in this sites statement of faith. We have no common ground to stand on , since when I asked you the question concerning this sites statement of faith you denied Christ as being our Lord God part of the Trinity of God the Father, the Son , Holy Spirit. You place Mary as Holy and mention because Mary was Holy, being a holy descendant of the line of David , and reason Christ Jesus was Holy because of Mary was holy,which is part of your Greek (perhaps orthodox) philosophy and has nothing to do with Gods Word. Yes Mary came from the line of David and she was favored amongst the women of her time for the task of bearing Christ Jesus in her womb, but her blood was completely human and tainted since the time of Adam and Eve. Christ Blood came direct from God when God "overshadowed' Mary and Christ came to gestate in her womb to be part man and part divine to fulfill and complete Gods redemptive WORK through His plan of Mercy & Grace through the sacrificial shedding of His DIVINE BLOOD for the sake of mankind . Christ was divine. His untainted blood coming direct From the Holy Spirit of GOD "overshadowing Mary" and impregnating her womb with "Christ" the only begotten Son of God You say you do not believe Christ to be God because the disciples never referred to Him as such. But that is not true, they referred to Him as such and as I already have pointed through bible verses they wrote of His divinity and His redemptive work on the cross through His divine Holy Blood that was pure untainted without sin. Mary was not divine and her blood even though she came from the line of David and was good women to be chosen to bring Christ into this world, she was not holy pure, her blood was neither pure like that of Christ Jesus whose blood was HOLY . Even Mary was in need of a Savior. She also needed Christ's divine HOLY Blood to redeem her and save her and bring her into everlasting life eternal .

I think a greater danger than having riches is lacking FAITH in God and what His Word has to say about who He is. without FAITH in HIM and His WORD it is impossible to please Him. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Through the bible its speaks about the trinity of the Godhead being One in three= Father, Son,Holy Spirit. Galatians ch3:26 For it is through faith that ALL of you are Gods's sons in union with Christ, and so have taken upon yourselves the qualities of Christ Himself. So there is no difference between Jew and Gentiles, between slave and free men, between men and women: you are all in one union with Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are a descendant of Abraham, and receive what God has promised. Ch4 :6 To show you that you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the spirit who cries, Father,my Father." So then, you no longer are a slave, but a son. And since you are his son, God will give you all he has for his sons. If you reject that concept than you are rejecting who God is, and you are also rejecting His Word telling us who God is, because somewhere your faith is lacking, asleep , in rebellion, lost. So that is why yes I am concerned and do think it is a salvation issue, because those who do not believe Christ to be God, they don't understand either the function of the Holy Spirit of God and so therefore are not really walking in faith by what His word says but in error. Our faith should grow more and more, the more we seek out a daily relationship with Him. Because when we are truly in relationship with God, He works in us, He teaches us, He chastises us, He gives us of His knowledge in our hearts to understand what the world cannot comprehend. I have seen many who like to think of themselves intellectually superior, who claim they know and understand who God is, and claim they know and understand the bible, even though they deny many things the bible states as truth, but are really lacking in a Godly understanding that comes and is received by faith alone. Yes this faith from God even a child can receive and undertand, and if we cannot become like little children with our faith in God, the bible says that neither will be able to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 18:3 Christ Jesus said: And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. -------------------------- Matthew 18 New King James Version (NKJV) Who Is the Greatest? 18 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” 2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me. Jesus Warns of Offenses 6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes! 8 “If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire. The Parable of the Lost Sheep 10 “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. 11 For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. 12 “What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? 13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish. Dealing with a Sinning Brother 15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. 18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 19 “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.” The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant 21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23 Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24 And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25 But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26 The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27 Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28 “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29 So his fellow servant fell down [at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 30 And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31 So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32 Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33 Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34 And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35 “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”

Share the good news gospels with them? Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

There is no exception , everyones Blood including our own has been tainted since the fall of Adam and Eve. Mary fulfilled prophecy as she came down the line of David, but even David who murdered, had the same tainted blood as Adam and Eve Christ Blood was divine, coming directly from God placed into Mary womb. Hebrews 10 Animal Sacrifices Insufficient 10 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. Christ’s Death Fulfills God’s Will 5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me. 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure. 7 Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come— In the volume of the book it is written of Me— To do Your will, O God.’ ” 8 Previously saying, “Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them” (which are offered according to the law), 9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, [b]O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second. 10 By that will we have been [c]sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Christ’s Death Perfects the Sanctified 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. 15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. Hold Fast Your Confession 19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness[f] to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. The Just Live by Faith 26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”]says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 32 But recall the former days in which, after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings: 33 partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations, and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated; 34 for you had compassion on me in my chains, and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven. 35 Therefore do not cast away your confidence, which has great reward. 36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise: 37 “For yet a little while, And He who is coming will come and will not tarry. 38 Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back, My soul has no pleasure in him.” 39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.

Really? The disciples said that Christ was without sin His blood to redeem us had to be without sin. His Blood came from God when His seed was planted (overshadowed as you say) in Mary. Mary was human and her blood (even though she was a good woman) she was from the fallen line of Adam and Eve. Acts 20:28 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. Acts 20:28 Colossians 1:20 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. Ephesians 1:7 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace . Hebrews 9:14 14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God! Hebrews 9:22 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. 1 John 1:7 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. Hebrews 10:19 A Call to Persevere in Faith 19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, Hebrews 13:12 12 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Luke 22:20 20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. Matthew 26:28 28 This is my blood of thecovenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. Revelation 1:5 5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, Revelation 7:14 14 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revelation 12:11 11 They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. Romans 5:9 9 Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 3:24-25 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 1 Peter 1:18-19 18 For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. Hebrews 10:6-9 6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” 8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. John 6:55-59 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum. 1 Corinthians 11:24-30 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. 27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.

Hi again Your closest freindnt; What makes you so sure I have not considered other view points? lol. yes I have considered other view points. and i always try to see and try to understand where the other person is coming from. I could very much return your phrase back to you, but your phrase :"Sorry another hard pill to swallow. - it means matters you may have not considered before. " seems to insinuates snide arrogance on your part in assuming you know the persons complete thought process and view point, which you don't. The Blood of Christ came direct from God when God impregnated Mary. It was Mary's line from which Christ was made, that affirms Christ came from the family line of David but His Blood came direct from God, when God impregnated her with His seed. So yes Christ came down the line of David through His mother, but His Blood came direct from God. They did not mix. Mary's blood was still tainted from the fall of Adam and Eve, but Christ Blood was PURE, untainted coming direct from God. The blood of the baby in the womb does not mix with the blood of the mother. If Christ blood was not pure direct from God, then His sacrifice and shedding of His blood would have been pointless as His Blood could not possibly washed away our sins (Isaiah 53) if it was tainted like the blood of Adam and Eve was and all the human race , including Mary. Christ Blood came direct from Father God, It was Pure. it never mixed with Mary's blood to become tainted with the fall of Adam and Eves blood. Christ Blood came direct from God. Christ came to buy us back from sin since the fall of Adam and Eve. His Blood was shed for the remission of our sins, by His Blood we as healed. His Blood covers, washes away our sins making us acceptable in His sight and Through Him and in Him we become a new creature, living by the Holy Spirit of God and not by the flesh of the world. We become able (through Him) to conquer sin and become more and more the child of God we were always intended to be. There is ONE GOD: The Father -Son- Holy Spirit , they are all ONE in different diffusion. They were always. look to John ch1 John 1 The Eternal Word 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it. Man a created being cannot become God Man, can only unite back with God through His Son being the bridge back to Him, when we have asked God through believing Christ work on the cross to have paid the full penalty for our sins, and receiving the indwelling of His Holy Spirit making a home in our hearts. The Holy Spirit of God then resides in our hearts, His commandments reside in our hearts, our consciousness (that became tainted by sin/trauma) becomes more and more woken up by His righteousness now living in us ,chastising us, healing us and helping us become more and more clean spirit filled beings.

Ok than thank you for responding that you believe in this sites worthy 's statement of Faith, Than that means you believe Christ to be God incarnate. Am I correct in assuming this?

You choose to not answer my simple yes or no question to you, concerning if you believe in this site's Worthys' statement of faith. Yet you continue to evade the question and instead try to provoke me into answering your questions.... The only thing I will answer is that I never claimed to be good as you are trying to pin me into a category. I am a sinner filled by His Grace Alone. I am not Christ=Gods Grace, and so the question of being good does not apply to me in the same sense that it applied to Christ when He was called good teacher. Because right now, you are trying to evade my simple yes or no question to you regarding if you believe in worthy's statement of faith or not. I will not further reply until you provide your christian point of view concerning your statement of faith. Does it align with Worthy's statement of faith or not? If it does not we really have nothing further to share as your opinion is greatly different than mine as mine aligns with this site worthy statement of faith. In Christ Jesus Always; 1to3

Not to sure where you got the "judgement of others from what I wrote and researched to prove Christ Jesus is God". However I am not interested into going into arguments. But just to be clear, to know exactly where you presently stand in your own faith with Christ Jesus and His WORD. A simple -yes- or -no-, will do . Do you believe this site's Worthy Statement of Faith ? YES or NO ? Statement of Faith We believe in God, the almighty creator of heaven and earth. We believe in the triunity of God. We believe that God is eternally One, and also eternally the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit — the three being distinct, but not separate. Each Person of the Godhead coexists from everlasting to everlasting. We believe in the Messiah, Jesus, God’s only begotten son, God come in the flesh. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. He was crucified, died and buried. On the third day, He rose again. Soon afterward He ascended into heaven. Now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and He will return to judge both the living and the dead and reign for evermore. We believe all mankind are sinful and are therefore subject to God’s wrath and condemnation. We believe that everyone is in need of God’s salvation. Mankind is absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God’s righteousness, holiness and glory. Therefore, God, in sending His Only Begotten Son, has accomplished redemption for us through the shedding of Jesus’ blood. Because of His Son’s death, God has forgiven us of our sins, reconciled us to Himself, and justified us by making Him our righteousness. We believe that salvation is a gift received by faith alone, in Messiah alone, and is expressed in the individual’s recognition and repentance of sin, and the acceptance of the risen Messiah as Saviour, Lord and God. We believe in the supreme Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. And that there is no other name under Heaven by which we can approach the holy throne of God. Jesus Christ is the one and only mediator between God and man. We believe that immediately upon death, the soul of the believer is absent from the body, and present with the Lord. We believe in the ongoing work of sanctification by the Holy Spirit after redemption for the purpose of producing life changing fruit — love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and self-control. We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God.

Thank you for your reply.

Blessings in Christ Jesus to you brother Your closest friendnt; I hope you got to read and answer my two above posts to see more clearly that YES the Word of God does say that Christ is God incarnate.

Hello Your closest friendnt; Just a continuation: a quote you mentioned in your last post: Paul’s Testimony Unlike John, the apostle Paul, (formerly Saul) was a bitter opponent and persecutor of Christians, until Jesus revealed himself to him in a vision. Years later, Paul reveals to the Colossians what he had learned of Jesus’ identity: Paul reveals several important things in this passage: Jesus is the exact image of God Jesus is the “first-born” of creation Jesus created everything Jesus is the reason for creation Jesus existed before everything Jesus holds creation together What does “exact image of God” mean? Bruce remarks: “To call Christ the image of God is to say that in Him the being and nature of God have been perfectly manifested–that in Him the invisible has become visible.”[9] Thus, God being visible in Christ coincides with Jesus’ own words to Philip, “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” (John 14:9). In verse 15, the Greek word for “first-born” (prototokos) means ‘”supreme’ rather than in the temporal sense of ‘born after.”[10] According to Bruce, Paul is referring to “Christ’s pre-existence and cosmic activity in creation, and “denotes not only Jesus’ priority but also his primacy.”[11] What makes this clear is verse 16 which tells us that everything in the universe was created both through Jesus Christ, and also for him. In verse 17 we see the eternal Christ sustaining creation. According to Paul, every atom, each DNA strand, and all the billions of galaxies are held together by the power of Jesus Christ. Thus, Jesus is the one from whom everything originated, the one for whom it was created, and the one that holds it all together. Hebrews’ Testimony The New Testament book of Hebrews[12] also reveals Jesus as the Creator of everything. Its opening passage reflects Paul’s words to the Colossians: “Long ago God spoke many times and in many ways to our ancestors through the prophets. But now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he made the universe and everything in it. The Son reflects God’s own glory, and everything about him represents God exactly. He sustains the universe by the mighty power of his command” (Heb. 1:1-3a) Just as John and Paul reveal, the author of Hebrews tells us that prior to Jesus becoming a man, God created the universe through him. And Hebrews also reveals Jesus Christ as the one who sustains it. Verse 3 speaks of Jesus as the “perfect imprint and very image of God’s nature.”[13] The Greek word here means that “the Son is the effulgence, the out-raying of the glory of God’s glory.”[14] This statement, that Jesus is the “perfect imprint” of the infinite God, confirms that the apostles believed Jesus is fully God The author of Hebrews then goes on to tell us that Jesus is not only superior to the prophets, but he also is far above the angels. “This shows that God’s Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is far greater than their names” (Heb. 1:4). John Piper explains why Jesus is vastly superior to angels: “No angel in heaven ever received such honor and affection as the Son has received from all eternity from his Father. As great and wonderful as angels are, they do not rival the Son…..The Son of God is not an angel— not even the highest archangel. Rather God says, ‘Let God’s angels worship him!” (Hebrews 1:6). The Son of God is worthy of all the worship that the hosts of heaven can give—not to mention ours.”[15] The author of Hebrews then discloses the deity of Jesus: “But as to the Son, He [the Father] says to Him, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever….” (Heb. 1:8 Ampl.) Later in Hebrews, we learn that Jesus Christ “is the same yesterday, today, and forever,” a clear statement of his eternal Deity (Heb. 13:8). A created being is not the same today as yesterday because there would have been a time when he didn’t exist. It would be difficult to construe these passages in Hebrews to mean anything other than the fact that Jesus is the God spoken of in the Old Testament, who along with His Father and the Holy Spirit, created the universe. The apostles must have been appalled to learn that the one they had seen bleed and hang suspended on a Roman cross is the very One who created the tree it was made from as well as the men who nailed him to it. Pre-eminent One The early Christians were accused by the Romans of stealing glory from Caesar, and by the Jews of robbing glory from God (Yahweh). Christianity is criticized by some as being “too Jesus focused.” But is that what the apostles thought? Let’s hear again from Paul as he writes to the Colossians about Jesus. “He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell” (Col. 1:19 ESV). Paul writes that God is pleased to have Jesus as the preeminent person in the universe. But the Old Testament clearly teaches that God will never relinquish his preeminence to a created being (Deut. 6:4, 5; Ps. 83:18; Prov. 16:4; Is. 42:11). Isaiah speaks clearly of God’s (Yahweh’s) preeminence. “Let all the world look to me for salvation! For I am God; there is no other. I have sworn by my own name, and I will never go back on my word: Every knee will bow to me, and every tongue will confess allegiance to my name.” (Isaiah 45:22, 23 NLT) But how can both Jesus and Yahweh be preeminent? There may be a clue in Genesis, where the Hebrew word used for God the Creator is plural (Elohim). And, when Isaiah states that God alone created everything, the Hebrew word for God (Yahweh) is also plural. Dr. Norman Geisler concludes, “Biblically speaking, there is more than enough evidence to conclude that the fundamental nature of God is portrayed by the Scriptures as a plural oneness.”[16] Paul attributes to Jesus the same words of honor Isaiah attributes to Yahweh: “Though he was God, he did not demand and cling to his rights as God. He made himself nothing; he took the humble position of a slave and appeared in human form. And in human form he obediently humbled himself even further by dying a criminal’s death on a cross. Because of this, God raised him up to the heights of heaven and gave him a name that is above every other name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:6-11 NLT) This passage reveals that before Jesus became a man, he had the full rights of the Godhead. Paul also tells us, “that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.” Over seven hundred years before Christ, God tells us through Isaiah that He alone is God, Lord, and Savior: “Before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior” (Isaiah 43:10,11). We are also told in the Old Testament that Yahweh alone created the universe. That “every knee shall bow to Him.” That He is “the Lord, the King of Israel.” “The Redeemer.” “The First and the Last.” Daniel calls Him “Ancient of Days.” Zechariah speaks of God as “the King, the Lord of Hosts who will judge the earth.” But in the New Testament we hear John call Jesus “Savior,” “The Alpha and Omega,” “The First and the Last,” “The King of Kings” and Lord of Lords.” Paul tells us “every knee will bow to Jesus.” It is Jesus alone who the apostles tell us will judge our eternal destiny. Jesus is the preeminent Lord of the universe. Packer argues that Christianity makes sense only if Jesus is fully God: “If Jesus had been no more than a very remarkable, godly man, the difficulties in believing what the New Testament tells us about his life and work would be truly mountainous. “But if Jesus was the same person as the eternal Word, the Father’s agent in creation, ‘through whom also he made the worlds’ (Heb. 1:2 RV), it is no wonder if fresh acts of creative power marked his coming into this world, and his life in it, and his exit from it. It is not strange that he, the Author of life, should rise from the dead….The Incarnation is in itself an unfathomable mystery, but it makes sense of everything else that the New Testament contains.”[17] Conclusion If Jesus is Yahweh, then the Christian message is that God Himself came to earth, allowed men to spit on Him, mock him, and nail Him to a cross as a supreme sacrifice for our sin. God’s perfect justice could only be satisfied by God Himself as the payment for our sin and unrighteousness. No angel or created proxy would suffice. Such an act of condescension demonstrates the immensity of the Father’s love as well as the high value He places upon each of us (See “Why Jesus?“) . And this is exactly what the apostles taught and so fervently preached. In his parting words to the Ephesian elders, Paul encouraged them to “shepherd the church of God, which he purchased with His own blood (Acts 20:28 NASB). Paul is echoing Zechariah’s prophecy where God (Yahweh) says, “In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem….and they will look on Me whom they have pierced and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son (Zech 12:8a, 10b). Zechariah reveals that the one pierced on the cross was none other than God, Himself. Thus, we see that Jesus Christ brings Old and New Testaments together like separate instruments harmonize to create a beautiful symphony. For, unless Jesus is God, Christianity loses its central theme. But if Jesus is God, all other major Christian doctrines fit together like pieces of a puzzle.” Kreeft and Tacelli explain:[18] “If Christ is divine, then the incarnation, or ‘enfleshing’ of God, is the most important event in history. It is the hinge of history. It changes everything.” “If Christ is God, then when he died on the cross, heaven’s gate, closed by sin, opened up to us for the first time since Eden. No event in history could be more important to every person on earth than that.” “If Christ is God, then, since he is omnipotent and present right now, he can transform you and your life right now as nothing and no one else possibly can.” “If Christ is divine, he has a right to our entire lives, including our inner life and our thoughts.” The apostles made Jesus Lord of their lives, wrote of him as the Creator, and worshipped him as preeminent. These first hand eyewitnesses were absolutely convinced that God had visited planet earth in the Person of Jesus Christ, who will return as King of kings and Lord of lords, as well as our eternal Judge. In his letter to Titus, Paul reveals Jesus’ identity, and God’s purpose for our lives: “For the grace of God has been revealed bringing salvation to all people. And we are instructed to turn from godless living and sinful pleasures. We should live in this evil world with self-control, right conduct, and devotion to God, while we look forward to that wonderful event when the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, will be revealed. [19] (Titus 2:11-13 NLT). Source:https://y-jesus.com/more/ajg-apostles-jesus-god/5/

Hello Your closest friendnt; Thank you for your explanation, Yes some of what you write is written and found in the bible but then some other things that you bring up are not found in the bible. You said""No one of the disciples ever use this phrase "Jesus is God", Really ? then what about what John wrote? From where did you take your sources to the things you mention that are not written in the bible like? "When as the seed of the woman, the virgin birth, and he also knew that time his mission, and that being conceived he cannot bring anything he had before he was conceived.  Things pertaining to wisdom, knowledge, ......" "Heaving a new Glory that he never had before and no one else had before, -if you can understand this-. He went back to Heaven to his Heavenly FATHER. But not the same way when he left HEAVEN. He left Heaven, before he create the Earth and man, with a body from the Earth, and giving him from his life. " ------------------------------------ Here is an explanation of Jesus being God: the greatest difference between Jesus Christ and all other religious leaders is that, according to Christians, he claimed to be God (See, “Did Jesus Claim to be God?“) . If this claim of his is false, the message of the gospel loses all credibility. That message is that God loved us so much that He became a man to die for our sins, offering us eternal life with Himself. Thus, if Jesus is not God, then we have been lied to. Some religions teach that Jesus was a created being. And books, like The Da Vinci Code, have become best-sellers by saying neither Jesus nor his apostles taught that he is God (See “Mona Lisa’s Smirk“). These attacks on the divinity of Christ raise the question of what happened nearly 2000 years ago that caused Christianity to claim that its founder, Jesus Christ, is actually God. In “Did Jesus Claim to be God” we see that the evidence from the New Testament points strongly to the fact that Jesus did claim to be God. But were the eyewitnesses, who heard Jesus’ words and saw his miraculous deeds, convinced that he is equal in every way with his Father? Or did they think that Jesus was merely a higher created being or a great prophet like Moses? To sort out truth from fiction, we need to go back to the words of the apostles who were there when Jesus walked the earth, and wrote their testimonies of what they saw and heard. Jesus had picked very ordinary men to be his followers. He spent three years with them, teaching them about himself and explaining to them the deep truths of God’s Word. During those three years, Jesus performed numerous miracles, made audacious claims, and lived an absolutely righteous life. Later, these apostles wrote down many of Jesus’ words and deeds. These New Testament accounts have been called extremely reliable, far exceeding all other ancient historical documents for authenticity. When they first encountered Jesus, the apostles had no idea who he was. However, as they heard his profound words and saw him restore sight to the blind and raise the dead, they may have recalled the prophecies indicating the Messiah would be God Himself. (Isaiah 9:6; Micah 5:2). But as they saw him dying on the cross, Jesus appeared defeated and powerless. Any thoughts they might have had that Jesus was God undoubtedly vanished at the cross. However, three days after that traumatic event, the one, who had appeared impotent while hanging on the cross, miraculously appeared alive to his followers. And he had risen bodily. They saw him, touched him, ate with him, and heard him talk of his glorified position as the supreme authority in the universe. Simon Peter, who was one of the closest of Jesus’ disciples, and an eyewitness, wrote: “We saw it with our own eyes: Jesus resplendent with light from God the Father….We couldn’t be more sure of what we saw and heard—God’s glory, God’s voice.” (2 Peter 1: 16, 17 But does the fact that the apostles saw God’s glory and heard God’s voice through Jesus mean that they regarded him as God? New Testament scholar A. H. McNeile gives us the answer: “…no sooner had the Life of Jesus ended in apparent failure and shame than the great body of Christians—not an individual here and there, but the mass of the Church—passed over at once to the fixed belief that He was God.” So, did the apostles who wrote the New Testament accounts really believe that Jesus is God, or did they regard him as a created being? If they regarded Jesus as God, did they consider him as the Creator of the universe, or something less? Those who deny Jesus’ deity say that the apostles taught that Jesus is God’s supreme creation, and that the Father alone is the eternal God. So, to clarify their beliefs about Jesus, we will examine their words, asking three questions: Did the apostles and early Christians worship and pray to Jesus as Lord? Did the apostles teach that Jesus is the Creator written of in Genesis? Did the apostles worship Jesus as Preeminent in the universe? Lord After Jesus ascended, the apostles stunned both Jew and Roman by proclaiming Jesus as “Lord”.[3] And the apostles did the unthinkable and worshipped Jesus, even praying to him as if he was God. Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” as he was being stoned to death. (Acts 7:59). Other believers soon joined Stephen, who even in the face of death, “never ceased for a single day…to teach and to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus (Acts 5:42). The apostles, most of whom were martyred, passed on their knowledge of Jesus to church fathers who carried on their message into the next generation. Ignatius, a disciple of the Apostle John, wrote about Jesus’ 2nd coming, “Look for him that is above the times, him who has not times, him who is invisible”. In a letter to Polycarp he states “Jesus is God”, “God incarnate,” and to the Ephesians he writes,” … God Himself appearing in the form of a man, for the renewal of eternal life.” (Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians 4:13) Clement of Rome in 96 A. D. also taught Jesus’ divinity, saying, “We ought to think of Jesus Christ as of God.” (2nd Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians 1:1) Polycarp, also a pupil of John’s, was tried before the Roman proconsul for worshipping Jesus as Lord. While the frenzied crowd shouted for his blood, the Roman judge demanded he proclaim Caesar as Lord. But Polycarp went to the stake, rather than renounce Jesus as his Lord, responding, “Eighty-six years I have served Christ, and He never did me any wrong. How can I blaspheme my King who saved me?”[4] As the early church grew, Gnostics and other cults began teaching that Jesus was a created being, inferior to the Father. This came to a head in the fourth century when Arius, a popular preacher from Libya, persuaded many leaders that Jesus wasn’t fully God. Then in 325 A. D. at the Council of Nicaea, church leaders met to resolve the issue of whether Jesus is the Creator, or merely a creation.[5] These church leaders overwhelmingly affirmed the long-held Christian conviction and New Testament teaching that Jesus is fully God.[6] Creator In Genesis the God of the Bible is revealed as Creator of everything from the tiny atom to the magnitude of space with its billions of galaxies. Thus, it would have been heresy for a Jew to think an angel or any other created being was the Creator. Isaiah confirms that God (Yahweh) is the Creator: “This is what the Lord, the Creator and Holy One of Israel says…I am the one who made the earth and created people to live on it. With my hands I stretched out the heavens. All the millions of stars are at my command….I, the LORD Almighty, have spoken!” (Isaiah 45:11a, 12, 13b) So, did the apostles view Jesus as part of creation, or as the Creator?” John’s Testimony When Jesus’ disciples gazed at the stars on dark evenings, they most likely didn’t even dream that the Creator of those stars might be in their very presence. Yet after his resurrection, they saw Jesus with new eyes. And before he left earth, Jesus began to unfold mysteries to them about his identity. Recalling his Lord’s words, John begins his gospel by revealing who Jesus is: “In the beginning the Word (logos) already existed. He was with God, and he was God….He created everything there is. Nothing exists that he didn’t make. Life itself was in him and this life gives light to everyone.” (John 1:1, 3-4) Although scientists now believe the universe had a beginning from nothing, they can’t tell us who was there to start it all. John reveals that before creation, “the Word already existed”, and was “with God.” So who or what is this pre-existent Word? John’s next words clarify who he is talking about: “the Word was God.[7] As a Jew, John believed in one God. But John is talking about two entities here, God and the Word. Some groups, who teach that Jesus was created, erroneously translate this passage to mean the Word is a god rather than the God. But New Testament scholar F. F. Bruce writes that “rendering the phrase as “a god” is a frightful mistranslated because the omission of the indefinite article is common with nouns in the predicative construction.”[8] Therefore, John, under the direction of the Holy Spirit, tells us: the “Word” existed before creation the “Word” is the Creator who created everything the “Word” is God Thus far, John has told us that the Word is eternal, Created everything, and is God. But he doesn’t tell us whether the Word is a force or a person until verse 14. “So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us.” He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father” (John 1:14). John clearly refers here to Jesus. Furthermore, in his epistle he confirms it: “The one who existed from the beginning i“nothing exists that he didn’t make.” If nothing existed apart from him, it follows that Jesus couldn’t have been a created being. And according to John, the Word (Jesus) is Gs the one we have heard and seen. We saw him with our own eyes and touched him with our own hands. He is Jesus Christ, the Word of life” (1 John 1:1). John tells us that “nothing exists that he didn’t make.” If nothing existed apart from him, it follows that Jesus couldn’t have been a created being. And according to John, the Word (Jesus) is God source article: https://y-jesus.com/more/ajg-apostles-jesus-god/3/

Hello Your closest friendnt; Firstly I find it difficult to understand your long explanations along with your English syntax. I understand that if writing English as a second language , good English syntax may not come so easy, but nevertheless it makes it more difficult to understand you especially when it is accompanied by long responses. From all you write and how you use your English syntax, you seem to leave room for the reader to wounder weather you think Christ was God or not. From what you have written and from what I have come to understand from what you have written, is it your opinion that it does not matter whether a person think Christ is God or not for them to be saved? Is that correct? because we all should understand automatically that Christ Jesus was in your words: a "Heavenly Patriarch"? The bible bible says : 1 John 2:2 1My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate before the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2He Himself is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours alone, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3By this we can be sure that we have come to know Him: if we keep His commandments.… 1 John 4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Romans 3:25 Study Bible Righteousness through Faith …24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. 25God presented Him as an atoning sacrifice through faith in His blood, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had passed over the sins committed beforehand. 26He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus.… Christ Jesus could not become the propitiation for our sins if He Himself was not GOOD=God's only begotten Son and part of the trinity: Father -Son- Holy Spirit. Christ's Blood had to be good, direct from God-pure untainted, spotless for Him to be the propitiation for our sins. its not only believing that Christ was the promised Messiah, like believing in earthly Patriarchs of the bible: Abraham, Issac and Moses its believing completely that Christ BLOOD was Pure as He was the only begotten Son of God that without Him no one, no Jew , no gentile can come to the Father but through HIM-Christ Jesus. Just so I know where you stand more clearly, do you believe this also?

So what do you think then? was Christ Jesus good ?

Hello brother Your closest friendnt; Can you explain what you mean by the above statement? Hmmm, by saying that are you saying Muslims, Buddhist, because they have faith in -a- God of their understanding are accepted by Christ Jesus? The disciples may have disagreed on a lot of things, but one thing they ALL agreed upon and that Christ Was God incarnate who came to redeem us from our sins through the shedding of His divine-untainted- Blood . This particular man that I am speaking about is 90 years old and claims to have come to believe in Christ Jesus as the promised Messiah over 60 s0me years. This man has read the bible ( from what he says however, it does not seem ; like he read everything or believes everything as he states things that go contrary to Gods Word, like anyone who believes Christ is God is blaspheming God. This man is a very good counselor on human behavior and gives great advice concerning human behavior but to those who listen to his advice on human behavior he also states to them his religious views that Christ is not God and that anyone who believes that Christ is God is in error and by saying that Christ is God, they are blaspheming God. So this man is kind of saying that their salvation may be at risk for believing such, ie that Christ is God. And that in itself goes contrary to what the bible says and becomes a false teaching. As I see it, this man would need himself correction before he dies in what he understands Christ Jesus to be as he himself is telling others not to believe Christ Jesus is God. Not only is he in error but he i leading others in error. I think when you ( I mean this man or anyone teaching a different message that goes contrary the Word of God) begins to have an certain influence on people and teaches things contrary to Gods Word, -you- risks yourself to not be truly saved and place yourself in Gods judgement by having influenced others to stray away from Gods Truth, found in the Holy Bible. That is very serious. Taming the Tongue James 3:1 1Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. Personally I see this man as being someone who has helped a lot of people find understanding in human behavior, but who still needs to have his eyes opened before he dies concerning true salvation through Christ Jesus. Christ came for the Jew first and then the gentile=anything not Jewish, but their salvation is for both of them : Jew and Gentile = in believing by faith, the same, that Christ Jesus came to buy us back from the penalty of sin by shedding His DIVINE Blood on the cross for the remission of the sins of all who come to Him by faith to believe in Him and what He has accomplished on the cross and who He IS with His Father. : No one comes to the Father but through Him=Christ Jesus. John 14:6 The Way, the Truth, and the Life 5“Lord,” said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”

Hello brother Your closest friendnt; Hello brother Ito3, Jesus died for all, for the moral and the immoral, for those who are borned in Christian Countries and the many others, which we cannot understand and we will never understand by studying their coultures, some we will, the modern ones, but not their countless sub-groups. Jesus died for all, no matter what strange ideas and strange roots unknown ones they have at time of believing. So to make simple we should not challenge others understanding, we are not the Holy Spirit to know the roots of the whys and know how to prepare the ground before we plan a seed..... This is the Gospel, which also includes the profile of why only Jesus could be the Christ. The Christ must have his own inheritance. And for the Jew that can be easily understood, because Abraham as a Patriarch received his own inheritance. This may sound very strange to you, but its easily understood. We know that Abraham was a sojourner in the Land of Promish and never became a King or received a Kingdom while he lived, even thought he was told about the Royal blood he had according to the promush of God. -you are the Patriarch of kings and a great Nation- But Abraham as a Patriarch of a new people a new Nation, which was seperated from the rest of the world, the People of God, also received his own inheritance for him and his descendants after death, for the people of God, but which also was seperated from the rest of the world, and was also in the place of the dead. The same principal as on earth alive , +was as in death. On earth they were seperated and set apart as they only people of God, with Abraham as a Patriarch. Reading carefully that statement till that time God had not people to call his own, a Nation where he can be their Lord and their King. He had rejected Noah as a Patriarch for the same reasons he had rejected Adam and later Enoch. But at the same time Abraham was seperated from God. Abraham a Patriarch with an imputed righteousness, but without the Life of God, remained seperated from God spiritually. Later with Moses the obedience to the Law was required. So at time of death Abraham inherited a place that the same principal aplly. To be seperated from the rest of the world and at the same time to be seperated from God. And as we come to understand that this place can only be where God cannot go in the place of the dead. Known as the Bossom of Abraham. Thats where Abraham received his descendants including the Kings and the Prophets of Israel. ............. Hello brother Your closest friendnt; Ummm. thank you for this explanation about the Jewish people and Patriarchy. but could you please explain what that has to do with my question about this man that I know who is Jewish who says that not even Christ was good, and defends his stance by the passage in : Luke 18:19 "So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God." to defend that Christ was not God. You did ask me certain questions about the gentleman and I did answer you and most importantly I answered that yes I am concerned that if this man does not believe Christ Is part of the Trinity , he may not find salvation with God. I am not sure by what you wrote, what exactly you are trying to say? are you saying that for a Jewish person it does not matter if they accept Christ as part of the trinity, of God the Father , Son, Holy Spirit being ONE? Just accepting that Christ is the Messiah is good enough? From what you wrote are you suggesting that for a Jewish person it does not matter weather they view Christ as part of the trinity or not, just as long as they believe Christ to be the Messiah is good enough?

Yes born Jewish No he does not believe Christ is God and says that anyone one that does, its blasphemy. No he also does not think much of the Jewish synagogues and does not go to synagogues, but he says he believes in the bible but does not thinks it should be memorized or learnt through rot learning . But that in itself shows that he does not know that it is written in the Holy bible that yes its important to know the word and its our defense against the enemy. he seems to believe that Christ is the promised Messiah and thinks we should be able to be like him and being an extension of God, and that the more we give ourselves to the light it will get stronger and stronger in us as Christ did, but he never speak about the blood of Christ Jesus, that His BLOOD was shed for the atonement of our sins. That probably would be something to bring to his attention. Yes I believe he has definite faith in God and believes also that Christ was the promised Messiah, just he does not believe Christ is God, as i don't think either that he believes in the God-ship trinity of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit being ONE. Yes, but does not believe that Christ is God and thinks its blasphemous of anyone to think so, and that those who do are the real Pharisees. Hmmm according to what is written in the Holy Bible, yes I am concerned as he never acknowledges the blood atonement of Christ, never speaks of the Holy Spirit of God, being our helprer and does not see Christ as God .

First off I would like to say that I am not antisemitic, i believe Gods WORD, that God came to save the Jew and the gentile. Romans 10:12 The Word Brings Salvation …11It is just as the Scripture says: “Everyone who believes in Him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and is rich to all who call on Him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”… Acts 28:28 Paul Preaches at Rome …27For this people’s heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.’ 28Be advised, therefore, that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!” Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. God did come to the Jew first through Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Yes God does not break promises or covenants, but at the same time their are those who of themselves have departed from their true faith in God and His word. The old testament is filled with stories of Gods griever over the disobedience and turning away of those He had called to be His own beloved . As we know there are "Christians" who have fallen away from their first Love=God,ie. the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their are also "Jews" who have also fallen away from their first Love= God ie. the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob I have read some of Opossums statements and I think to accuse him as in this thread of being antisemitic is not fair. As I see it, yes Hollywood's industry is controlled by mostly "Jews" perhaps more Jews by ethnicity name only and not by true faith in God through his Word, thus as Opossum calls them =luciferians, the same as for "Christians" perhaps by name only and not by true faith in God through His Word.. but by name only. Like the christian calling themselves Christians when they are truly following the esoteric worldly outlook and not the God of the bible The term Luciferian would then apply also to the "Christians" perhaps by name only and not by true faith in God through His word. I have a question for those who are accusing Opossum of being antisemitic in this thread for bringing up true FACTS concerning who controls most of Hollywood and the entertainment industry. If indeed these who are controlling Hollywood and the entertainment industry are mostly "Jew" and then"christian" but who are only by ethnic origin or name only and not by true faith in God through His Word, are they not rightly to be called =luciferians? for what they are spewing and promoting and influencing the world with? From my understanding anything going Against Christ and His word is ANTI CHRIST, this is not me saying this but HIS WORD. Check out this reference:https://activechristianity.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-antichri What does the Bible say about the Antichrist? The Antichrist is the opposite of Christ. Just as Christ came to earth to do God’s will; the Antichrist will come to do the will of Satan. He will be Satan manifest in the form of man. Satan’s whole ambition is to be like God in power and might, and he works for this with all of his might, night and day. “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” 2 Thessalonians 2:4. His intention is to replace God, and he will send the Antichrist as a means to do this. The Antichrist will deny mankind’s necessity for God, and assert himself as ruler of this world. The separation of God and mankind Sin is the cause of separation between God and mankind. When sin is put off, we are unified with God. The spirit of Antichrist allows the sins that separate us from God to live by covering them with tolerance, “love”, and freedom. God’s word clearly states what is right and wrong, what is sinful and what is pure. But when enough people live in sin, for instance adultery, it is no longer considered sin. God’s laws are rejected, and the laws of society, and eventually even the laws of the nations, change to accommodate this adjusted view of what is right and wrong. So impurity and sin are allowed to live, and mankind grows farther and farther away from God – which is exactly Satan’s intention. The majority of the world has given over to this spirit, because it allows them to live comfortably, without a guilty conscience. This has been done under the covering of religion, and forgiveness of sin without ceasing from sin, in the past. However, in the times we live in now, humanism is more and more taking over the role that religion used to play. Mankind is more and more reliant on itself and being governed by itself, rather than being led by any “higher power.” The revelation of the Antichrist All of this is paving the way for the Antichrist himself to appear and get rid of any pretence of religion. He will do away with God altogether. He will perform signs and wonders to prove to the world once and for all that mankind is self-sufficient. (Revelation 13:13-14) Mankind is ready to embrace just such a person. Someone who does not interfere with their comfortable lives – who will be a force outside themselves to realize their thoughts and dreams of peace and harmony on earth; a world of tolerance, love, and goodwill, without any personal cost to themselves. And the Antichrist will be able to accomplish this. The name of the Antichrist has been synonymous with evil down through the ages, but the truth is that when he is finally revealed, the majority of people will not recognise him for who he is. He will not appear repellant; on the contrary, he will be someone who is talented, and ambitious to solve the world’s problems. He will advance what is already in the process of becoming a reality; that the world can become a paradise of man’s own making, without God. The world will believe that with the Antichrist at the helm, mankind can accomplish anything. “Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.” Revelation 13:6. When that happens then Satan will finally have what he has always wanted. He will be seen as equal to God. He will have control of a world that has no need for God. The bride of Christ But there are those who have not and will not reject the gospel of Christ; those who are interested in being finished with the sin that they see lies in them, in order to be unified with God. These will not be deceived, because for them, sin is exceedingly sinful. (Romans 7:13) Because they have been extremely watchful and awake to any spirit that tolerates sin, they will be allowed to see the Antichrist being revealed; they will see him for who he is. -------------------- For sure HOLLYWOOD and the ENTERTAINMENT business is preparing us -THE WORLD- for SATAN Great DECEPTION. And those who are doing it are rightly to be called -Luciferians as they are doing the WORKS of the devil, weather they are in name called "Jews" or "Christians" or "other like atheists, new age..." if under whater name they call themselves, they are doing the WORKS of the DEVIL they are LUCIFERIANS=Anti= Christian= against Christ Jesus. For sure Gods through HIS WORD has made a promises for the "JEWS" but I do not believe it is to Luciferian Jews who ar defiant to God, just as I do not believe God will keep promises to "Christians" who have rejected and are living defiant to God Word yet still think to be called "christian' when their lifestyle and belief system has nothing to do with Gods plan of Mercy and Grace through His only begotten Son Christ Jesus. Matthew 7:22 A Tree and its Fruit …21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’… From what I understand from reading Gods Word, God will depart from ANYONE who are workers of lawlessness.A.K.A" =luciferians So Yes God has a place for the Jews and the Gentile who Have kept faith in Him. But God departs from those who reject Him and mock Him and His Word. From what I have read it seems that those are the "Luciferiens" Opossum is alluding to? Please correct me if i am wrong Opossum. And is that is so, it is not antisemitic, its just telling the honest Truth of what's going on in this world and its luciferian system.

Hi Turtle two. Thinking and praying for you and your mom. I can't get more personally involved than posting in your current thread as I myself and now just morning the recent loss of a close family friend who was like a great moral support towards me after my own parents passed, my mom being the last one to pass a few years ago. Its never easy to have to say good bye to a beloved parent, but sometimes its the only thing we can do. If your mom is on life support and is suffering in her condition and could probably not survive without life support, then the kindest thing you could possibly do, would be, to let your beloved mother go back to God. I hope and pray your mother found salvation in Christ Jesus. If she did, then it may be the kindest thing you do for your mother in that you allow her for nature to take its natural course. Your mother if she does not benefit from treatment to ever regain a level comfort and lucidity level of well being, it may be kinder of you , to release your beloved mom from the struggle she must be going through . I do not know the exact situation of your beloved mother, but if that is the case, where she no longer is lucid and on life support, then, the kindest thing you could do in my opinion would be allow her to go back to her beloved redeemer Christ Jesus. Praying for you and the decisions you are having to face, praying also for your moms' salvation and the healing or release from this life according to Gods will concerning this situation for the best possible outcome for your mom at this stage of her life and her well being. In Christ Jesus Always; 1to3

How to believe in god again? Just begin talking to Him again. He is always there it is just us who abandon Him, but He is always there just waiting for us and when we come to Him in sincerity of heart, He is faithful to answer. God wants us to have a daily communication with Him. He knows your needs, H knows your desire, but you can't please God if you have no faith/faithfulness in Him. Just begin to place your hand in His, and He will respond back. Hebrews 11:6 The Faith of Abel, Enoch, Noah …5By faith Enoch was taken up so that he did not see death. He could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him. 7By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in godly fear built an ark to save his family. By faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.…

Hi Brother Duke, how would i explain the above? Well when we come to God through by asking Him to help us and we repent to Him and ask Him for forgivenss through His only begotten Son Christi Jesus , by accepting Christ being the only Son of God and having died for ours and taking propriation for them thus having paid the penalty in full for them, I ask God for forgiveness through Christ and also i ask that God come make a home in my heart. By repenting and being willing to turn my life away from sin, dying to self and follow Christ Jesus, The Holy Spirit of God, ie the comforter comes and makes His home in my heart. He is the one who works in me by bringing back in me God consciousness (His law become written in my heart) and helps me to further see my sins, and feel contrite about them, and help me to shed more and more of my sin nature and keeps transforming me more and more into the child of God i was always made to be through Him, He becomes my guide, my teacher within me and through that also helps me more and more understand His word. So the mind of Christ also aligns my mind with His because He lives in me through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit of God.

Ok, well saying that do you believe that in the beginning of all Christ was with God? if so do you believe John ch1? John 1 The Eternal Word 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it. If you understand that Christ is the WORD,then you understand that christ is also God as well as the Holy spirit also being God. If you believe this than you cannot than say that Christ only had the spirit of God in Him. the bible states that they are ONE, that the WORD was GOD.

you mean where in the bible does it say that only God can save us from sin? It says so pretty much everywhere. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, Romans 5:8 But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Psalm 112:7 He is not afraid of bad news; his heart is firm, trusting in the Lord. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. Matthew 3:8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. 1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. James 5:14 Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; ... Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Acts 22:16 And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.’ Acts 16:31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” John 14:1 E “Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. John 10:30 I and the Father are one.” John 8:31-32 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. Luke 13:3 No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Luke 11:1 Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Matthew 18:18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel? Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy. Psalm 33:4 For the word of the Lord is upright, and all his work is done in faithfulness. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Revelation 20:11-15 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Revelation 12:11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. 1 John 3:16 By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith. Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 1 Timothy 2:3-4 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Colossians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. Ephesians 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 3:10 As it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 2:1-47 When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. ... John 20:10-18 Then the disciples went back to their homes. But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb, and as she wept she stooped to look into the tomb. And she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had lain, one at the head and one at the feet. They said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?” She said to them, “They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.” Having said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing, but she did not know that it was Jesus. ... John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly. John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.” John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. Mark 1:15 And saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” Genesis 6:8 Christ Jesus had to be pure to be able to be able to pay the penalty for our sins? do you not agree with that? sin cannot cancel sin, only sinlessness can disarm sin. God lamb of god who takes away the sins of the world had to be sinless and his blood had to be pure untainted from the blood of Adam and Eve, that is why god came direct and implanted in Mary His seed, that became Christ Jesus. Christ Jesus Blood did not mix in the womb with Mary. it was pure untainted as the blood od adam was before he sinned. Christ blood has to be Pure and free form sin to buy us back from sin. Only God is free from sin and only Christ Jesus was free from sin when He came down to earth as part man/part God